With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
the info.
Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
I'm enjoying Cingular much better then verizon. Mostly with blue tooth
and my in car GPS System. Because of verizon turning this off, I'm
seeing so much more between the phone and the GPS That I never knew was
there.
I've seen a few spots that coverage is a little worse then with verizon.
But it's not a deal breaker.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:22:07 GMT, Kevin Weaver
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<PgOJh.3119$Qw.2062@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>I just signed up for Cingular.
>
>With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
>noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
>the info.
>
>Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
>plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
Free service.
>Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:22:07 GMT, Kevin Weaver
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <PgOJh.3119$Qw.2062@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>
>> I just signed up for Cingular.
>>
>> With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
>> noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
>> the info.
>>
>> Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
>> plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
>
> Free service.
>
>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>
> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>
I did RTFM Jerk. That's why I pointed out that verizon does not have
that in there menu. You enter *72 then the number not go thru the time
wasting menu.
That time of month again john ? Take a midol and chill out.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:26:11 -0700, Kevin Weaver
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<TeWJh.14899$bb1.13143@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net> :
>John Navas wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:22:07 GMT, Kevin Weaver
>> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> <PgOJh.3119$Qw.2062@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>>
>>> I just signed up for Cingular.
>>>
>>> With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
>>> noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
>>> the info.
>>>
>>> Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
>>> plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
>>
>> Free service.
>>
>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>>
>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>
>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
Good luck.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>>>
>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>>
>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>
> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
> Good luck.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for any
help. He was just commenting on what he perceived to be Cingular's inferior
process for forwarding calls. YOU were the one who was ill-mannered by
interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
On 2007-03-14, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
You don't necessarily have to go to the phone settings, but the dial
strings are hard to remember. Try
**21*<tel. no.>#
to forward the phone, and
##21#
to cancel.
I think these might be fairly standard GSM codes, since they seem to
work for me many places on most phones. I'm not at all positive they
are universal, however, so your mileage may vary.
"Bob Walker" <rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t:
>
>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number
>>>>> I would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend
>>>>> that it has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call
>>>>> and then do it again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds
>>>>> like a lot of hassle to have to go into the settings every time if
>>>>> this is the case.
>>>>
>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>>>
>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>>
>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on
>> you. Good luck.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
>> John Navas
>> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>
> With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for
> any help. He was just commenting on what he perceived to be
> Cingular's inferior process for forwarding calls. YOU were the one
> who was ill-mannered by interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
>
>
>
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:42:43 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>"Bob Walker" <rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>news:PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et:
>
>>
>>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number
>>>>>> I would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend
>>>>>> that it has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call
>>>>>> and then do it again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds
>>>>>> like a lot of hassle to have to go into the settings every time if
>>>>>> this is the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>>>>
>>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>>>
>>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on
>>> you. Good luck.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
>>> John Navas
>>> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>>
>> With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for
>> any help. He was just commenting on what he perceived to be
>> Cingular's inferior process for forwarding calls. YOU were the one
>> who was ill-mannered by interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Agreed.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:39:37 -0500, "Bob Walker"
<rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> :
>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>>>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>>>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>>>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>>>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>>>>
>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>>>
>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>>
>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
>> Good luck.
>With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for any
>help.
Actually he did ask for help (a question) -- did you miss the "?",
perhaps jumping in mid-thread?
>He was just commenting on what he perceived to be Cingular's inferior
>process for forwarding calls.
In that second part of his post, a vent that had nothing to do with
Cingular, it was clear that he hadn't RTFM; hence my suggestion. On
some phones, it's possible to shortcut the forwarding process. And with
just a bit more effort he would have found that standard GSM codes do
work on Cingular.
>YOU were the one who was ill-mannered by
>interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
There's nothing offensive about RTFM.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:42:43 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
> >"Bob Walker" <rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> >news:PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.n et:
> >
> >>
> >>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number
> >>>>>> I would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend
> >>>>>> that it has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call
> >>>>>> and then do it again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds
> >>>>>> like a lot of hassle to have to go into the settings every time if
> >>>>>> this is the case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
> >>>>
> >>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
> >>>
> >>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on
> >>> you. Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> >>> John Navas
> >>> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> >>
> >> With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for
> >> any help. He was just commenting on what he perceived to be
> >> Cingular's inferior process for forwarding calls. YOU were the one
> >> who was ill-mannered by interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Agreed.
>
>
> RTFM is never an appropriate comment.
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:8m3hv29bobach1v6lfck865i5ss82mtfce@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:39:37 -0500, "Bob Walker"
> <rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> :
>
>>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>>>>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>>>>
>>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>>>
>>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
>>> Good luck.
>
>>With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for any
>>help.
>
> Actually he did ask for help (a question) -- did you miss the "?",
> perhaps jumping in mid-thread?
No, I read it from the beginning. His question was whether he would be
charged for the SMS, not a request for help with call forwarding.
>
>>He was just commenting on what he perceived to be Cingular's inferior
>>process for forwarding calls.
>
> In that second part of his post, a vent that had nothing to do with
> Cingular, it was clear that he hadn't RTFM; hence my suggestion. On
> some phones, it's possible to shortcut the forwarding process. And with
> just a bit more effort he would have found that standard GSM codes do
> work on Cingular.
He was comparing Verizon's functionality with Cingular's. It seems
appropriate here. It didn't sound like a rant.
>
>>YOU were the one who was ill-mannered by
>>interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
>
> There's nothing offensive about RTFM.
>
Really? It seems offensive in a civilized discussion.
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:36:50 GMT, "Bob Walker"
<rowalker@sbcglobal.dontspam.com> wrote in
<mb3Kh.3258$Qw.1075@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:8m3hv29bobach1v6lfck865i5ss82mtfce@4ax.com.. .
>> Actually he did ask for help (a question) -- did you miss the "?",
>> perhaps jumping in mid-thread?
>
>No, I read it from the beginning. His question was whether he would be
>charged for the SMS, not a request for help with call forwarding.
That's not how I saw it. It's still not.
>> In that second part of his post, a vent that had nothing to do with
>> Cingular, it was clear that he hadn't RTFM; hence my suggestion. On
>> some phones, it's possible to shortcut the forwarding process. And with
>> just a bit more effort he would have found that standard GSM codes do
>> work on Cingular.
>
>He was comparing Verizon's functionality with Cingular's. It seems
>appropriate here. It didn't sound like a rant.
That's not how I saw it. It's still not.
>> There's nothing offensive about RTFM.
>
>Really? It seems offensive in a civilized discussion.
Really. There's nothing offensive about RTFM (unless of course you're
determined to take offense).
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Yup, navas has forgotten to pop a pill for his menstrual cramp.
In article <mb3Kh.3258$Qw.1075@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
"Bob Walker" <rowalker@sbcglobal.dontspam.com> wrote:
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:8m3hv29bobach1v6lfck865i5ss82mtfce@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:39:37 -0500, "Bob Walker"
> > <rowalker@dontspamme.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> > <PT_Jh.9273$P47.9226@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> :
> >
> >>>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
> >>>>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
> >>>>
> >>>>I did RTFM Jerk. ...
> >>>
> >>> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
> >>> Good luck.
> >
> >>With all due respect, John, it doesn't appear that the OP asked for any
> >>help.
> >
> > Actually he did ask for help (a question) -- did you miss the "?",
> > perhaps jumping in mid-thread?
>
> No, I read it from the beginning. His question was whether he would be
> charged for the SMS, not a request for help with call forwarding.
>
> >
> >>He was just commenting on what he perceived to be Cingular's inferior
> >>process for forwarding calls.
> >
> > In that second part of his post, a vent that had nothing to do with
> > Cingular, it was clear that he hadn't RTFM; hence my suggestion. On
> > some phones, it's possible to shortcut the forwarding process. And with
> > just a bit more effort he would have found that standard GSM codes do
> > work on Cingular.
>
> He was comparing Verizon's functionality with Cingular's. It seems
> appropriate here. It didn't sound like a rant.
>
> >
> >>YOU were the one who was ill-mannered by
> >>interjecting RTFM into the conversation.
> >
> > There's nothing offensive about RTFM.
> >
>
> Really? It seems offensive in a civilized discussion.
>
> > --
> > Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Like you helped me in saying RTFM ?
You think that was help ? With help like that, I don't need your help.
I've got your help hanging.
John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:26:11 -0700, Kevin Weaver
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <TeWJh.14899$bb1.13143@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net> :
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:22:07 GMT, Kevin Weaver
>>> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>>> <PgOJh.3119$Qw.2062@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>>>
>>>> I just signed up for Cingular.
>>>>
>>>> With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
>>>> noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
>>>> the info.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
>>>> plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
>>> Free service.
>>>
>>>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>>>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>>>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>>>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>>>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>>> Many phones have a menu setting for forwarding calls. RTFM.
>> I did RTFM Jerk. ...
>
> Since you have no manners, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
> Good luck.
>
Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2007-03-14, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Also with verizon If I wanted to forward a call to another number I
>> would just enter *72 and the number. But I was told by a friend that it
>> has to be setup in the phone settings to forward a call and then do it
>> again in the settings to turn it off. It sounds like a lot of hassle to
>> have to go into the settings every time if this is the case.
>
> You don't necessarily have to go to the phone settings, but the dial
> strings are hard to remember. Try
>
> **21*<tel. no.>#
>
> to forward the phone, and
>
> ##21#
>
> to cancel.
>
> I think these might be fairly standard GSM codes, since they seem to
> work for me many places on most phones. I'm not at all positive they
> are universal, however, so your mileage may vary.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
> I'm enjoying Cingular much better then verizon. Mostly with blue tooth
> and my in car GPS System. Because of verizon turning this off, I'm
> seeing so much more between the phone and the GPS That I never knew was
> there.
Verizon should be severely chastised for the crap they pull with their
handsets and disabling features.
> I've seen a few spots that coverage is a little worse then with verizon.
Personally I'd rather hack the Verizon phone to restore the capability
they removed than lose coverage by going to Cingular, but if it's only
slightly worse then I guess it's no big deal. In my area, the San
Francisco Bay Area, the Cingular coverage is significantly poorer than
the Verizon coverage, but I've been in places such as South Florida
where Cingular coverage is excellent.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:26:00 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <45f981ac$0$27167$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>> I've seen a few spots that coverage is a little worse then with verizon.
>
>Personally I'd rather hack the Verizon phone to restore the capability
>they removed than lose coverage by going to Cingular, but if it's only
>slightly worse then I guess it's no big deal. In my area, the San
>Francisco Bay Area, the Cingular coverage is significantly poorer than
>the Verizon coverage, but I've been in places such as South Florida
>where Cingular coverage is excellent.
In fact Cingular has better coverage in general here in the San
Francisco Bay Area than any other carrier, Verizon included.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> I just signed up for Cingular.
>
> With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
> noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
> the info.
Verizon does this now too, they don't tell you your used minutes
verbally. If you have text messaging turned off, even free messages
don't get through. You can call 611 and get it verbally. I had to turn
off text messaging because I was getting billed for so many junk messages.
> Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a sms
> plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
I'm sure that these messages are free, but you have to have text
messaging enabled on your account which subjects you to being billed for
junk messages.
With verizon you could check your use by seeing it in there free web
browser. I had all the extras turned off.
With cingular, I have the same. Everything turned off, but got the txt
message yesterday telling me of the usage. I don't how it can send me
that when I have it turned off. But as long as it's free then thats
fine. But If I start to get the other spam like others were talking
about then I'll call and make sure that won't happen from that point on.
And if that causes the mins used to not come to me then thats fine as well.
SMS wrote:
> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> I just signed up for Cingular.
>>
>> With old provider, (Verizon) You could check your used mins free. I
>> noticed today when checking on cingular, That it sends your a sms with
>> the info.
>
> Verizon does this now too, they don't tell you your used minutes
> verbally. If you have text messaging turned off, even free messages
> don't get through. You can call 611 and get it verbally. I had to turn
> off text messaging because I was getting billed for so many junk messages.
>
>> Is this a free service or do I have to pay for this ? I don't have a
>> sms plan and don't want to have to start paying for them.
>
> I'm sure that these messages are free, but you have to have text
> messaging enabled on your account which subjects you to being billed for
> junk messages.
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> With verizon you could check your use by seeing it in there free web
> browser. I had all the extras turned off.
>
> With cingular, I have the same. Everything turned off, but got the txt
> message yesterday telling me of the usage. I don't how it can send me
> that when I have it turned off. But as long as it's free then thats
> fine. But If I start to get the other spam like others were talking
> about then I'll call and make sure that won't happen from that point on.
> And if that causes the mins used to not come to me then thats fine as well.
I wish Verizon would allow only text messages from Verizon, and no
others. I'm sure that they could, but they don't want to, as punishment
for not giving them text message revenue.
Verizon knows what's best for their customers; they are protecting us by
disabling functionality in their handsets that we might want to use for
purposes that they don't like.
I don't blame you for abandoning Verizon. I would love to change
carriers, but unfortunately the coverage problems with Cingular, Sprint,
and T-Mobile in the San Francisco Bay Area don't allow it. Cingular is
improving, I've especially noticed improvement out in the east Bay, but
they are still far behind Verizon, especially in the rural areas and
greenbelt (due to AMPS). It'll be interesting to see the surveys in Jan
2009, once AMPS is turned off in some areas, and after Cingular has
another two years of working on their network, but for now Verizon out
here is like the oil companies with the law of supply and demand, "We
have all the supply, so we can demand whatever the $%#@ we want!" The
only positive is that among professionals it's rare to find a
non-Verizon customer out here, so most calls are mobile to mobile, so
people can get by with lower numbers of peak minutes. It's not just the
voice coverage, it's the wider high-speed data coverage.
Where are you located that Cingular is only slightly worse than Verizon?
[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
Wireless Service.]
I'm in San Luis Obispo. I found one area today that is crap. We have a
long grade the goes from atascadero to San Luis Obispo. There are lots
of high mountains in the area. (Radio Hill) Where all the radio and tv
towers are. Verizon has solid coverage where cingular drops twice in a
few mile stretch. This is my 1st area I've found that cingular lags in
coverage. None vs great with verizon. You can't find all the area's to
compare during the 15 day trial. But to be fair, there are areas that
are better with verizon. But this no coverage is not good news. This
area is known for major car wrecks. And with this being a Radio tower
hill, I would have though there would be no problem.
SMS wrote:
> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> With verizon you could check your use by seeing it in there free web
>> browser. I had all the extras turned off.
>>
>> With cingular, I have the same. Everything turned off, but got the txt
>> message yesterday telling me of the usage. I don't how it can send me
>> that when I have it turned off. But as long as it's free then thats
>> fine. But If I start to get the other spam like others were talking
>> about then I'll call and make sure that won't happen from that point
>> on. And if that causes the mins used to not come to me then thats fine
>> as well.
>
> I wish Verizon would allow only text messages from Verizon, and no
> others. I'm sure that they could, but they don't want to, as punishment
> for not giving them text message revenue.
>
> Verizon knows what's best for their customers; they are protecting us by
> disabling functionality in their handsets that we might want to use for
> purposes that they don't like.
>
> I don't blame you for abandoning Verizon. I would love to change
> carriers, but unfortunately the coverage problems with Cingular, Sprint,
> and T-Mobile in the San Francisco Bay Area don't allow it. Cingular is
> improving, I've especially noticed improvement out in the east Bay, but
> they are still far behind Verizon, especially in the rural areas and
> greenbelt (due to AMPS). It'll be interesting to see the surveys in Jan
> 2009, once AMPS is turned off in some areas, and after Cingular has
> another two years of working on their network, but for now Verizon out
> here is like the oil companies with the law of supply and demand, "We
> have all the supply, so we can demand whatever the $%#@ we want!" The
> only positive is that among professionals it's rare to find a
> non-Verizon customer out here, so most calls are mobile to mobile, so
> people can get by with lower numbers of peak minutes. It's not just the
> voice coverage, it's the wider high-speed data coverage.
>
> Where are you located that Cingular is only slightly worse than Verizon?
>
>
> [Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
> posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
> and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
> Wireless Service.]
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> I'm in San Luis Obispo. I found one area today that is crap. We have a
> long grade the goes from atascadero to San Luis Obispo. There are lots
> of high mountains in the area. (Radio Hill) Where all the radio and tv
> towers are. Verizon has solid coverage where cingular drops twice in a
> few mile stretch. This is my 1st area I've found that cingular lags in
> coverage. None vs great with verizon. You can't find all the area's to
> compare during the 15 day trial. But to be fair, there are areas that
> are better with verizon. But this no coverage is not good news. This
> area is known for major car wrecks. And with this being a Radio tower
> hill, I would have though there would be no problem.
Well you can always keep a PagePlus CDMA phone activated for the areas
where Cingular has no coverage. That seems to be a popular way to retain
the Verizon coverage when switching to Cingular, at least in the Bay Area.
Funny you said that. I'm a pageplus seller for this area. But the lack
of local numbers has caused me to not go thru with selling there service.
There closest number they can give people in this area would be a Santa
Barbara number. And people in the area won't buy them as it would be a
long distance call.
Pageplus is looking into it. wish they would act on it more quickly.
They could make and I lots of money. There plans cost wise are the best.
SMS wrote:
> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> I'm in San Luis Obispo. I found one area today that is crap. We have a
>> long grade the goes from atascadero to San Luis Obispo. There are lots
>> of high mountains in the area. (Radio Hill) Where all the radio and tv
>> towers are. Verizon has solid coverage where cingular drops twice in a
>> few mile stretch. This is my 1st area I've found that cingular lags in
>> coverage. None vs great with verizon. You can't find all the area's to
>> compare during the 15 day trial. But to be fair, there are areas that
>> are better with verizon. But this no coverage is not good news. This
>> area is known for major car wrecks. And with this being a Radio tower
>> hill, I would have though there would be no problem.
>
> Well you can always keep a PagePlus CDMA phone activated for the areas
> where Cingular has no coverage. That seems to be a popular way to retain
> the Verizon coverage when switching to Cingular, at least in the Bay Area.
Kevin Weaver wrote:
> Funny you said that. I'm a pageplus seller for this area. But the lack
> of local numbers has caused me to not go thru with selling there service.
>
> There closest number they can give people in this area would be a Santa
> Barbara number. And people in the area won't buy them as it would be a
> long distance call.
Yeah, for landlines calling to the PagePlus phone, but I had a non-local
TDMA/AMPS prepaid for a while and it was no big deal. It was mainly for
urgent calls from my kids. If I had to call the number from a landline
it was pretty cheap with TalkLoop or OneSuite so I didn't worry about
it, but I usually called from my Verizon account where I rarely use even
1/2 of my monthly peak minutes.
PagePlus is almost the standard for low-cost prepaid with wide coverage
to supplement service for those with Cingular and T-Mobile that need the
coverage in places such as you have found that lack GSM coverage but
that have CDMA or AMPS coverage. The Bay Area is full of such gaps in
Cingular's coverage, though they appear to be working at filling them
in. It'll be interesting to see if the next round of surveys shows any
improvement for Cingular, as right now they are rated pretty poorly for
this area by all the independent surveys.
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