Added alt.cellular.Cingular as it is relevant to that group as well
>> <frank@franklarosa.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160426733.557874.281840@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>>I am considering switching from Cingular to Sprint, primarily because
>> Sprint offers the Treo 700 and Cingular does not. I'm also attracted by
>> the fact that Sprint's rates for unlimited internet access seem to be
>> about half of Cingular's.
>>
>> My concern is that in switching from a GSM network to a CDMA network
>> I'll loose coverage, particularly when traveling overseas. I have, for
>> example, used my Cingular phone without incident in Europe. I presume I
>> won't be able to do the same thing with a Sprint phone.
>>
>> Any comments or opinions? Thanks.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote in message
>news:OizWg.32281$tO5.3120@fed1read10...
> That is true. You will not have service with either Sprint or Verizon if
> you are out of the USA. Sprint will provide much higher speed data than
> Cingular. You will need to test both Sprint and Cingular in the area that
> you live, work, and travel to determine which one is best for you. If you
> want international then stay with Cingular. If you want better voice
> quality and kick-ass data speed, go with Sprint.
>
The OP can use CDMA in Canada, Mexico and a few Asian countries.
So, by saying that the OP won't be able to use CDMA outside of the USA
is in error.
I'd suggest staying with Cingular.
To the OP: As others have or will point out, go for the ability to USE a
phone, NOT the phone itself.
--
Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100 VZW AC II SINCE APRIL 1993
SonyEricsson Z525a CINGULAR NATION SINCE MARCH 2006
It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular in
some areas and vice versa. Jack has a hard-on for Sprint because of
something that Sprint allegedly did to him that never really happened. Jack
used to terrorize the alt.cellular.sprintpcs on a regular basis.
"Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-41780E.06432111102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
>I switch from Sprint to Cingular over 2 years ago, and NEVER regretted
> it for a second.
>
> Better, sturdier phones
>
> Better coverage
>
> GSM gives better voice reception
>
> Mostly on 850 MHz instead of 1900 MHz, means better coverage, better
> indoor coverage.
>
> Far fewer dropped calls
>
> Far fewer dead zones
>
> No long waits on hold to get to a CSR
>
> No upselling by CSRs
>
> No hang ups by CSRs due to their handle time limits.
>
> CSRs willing to escalate a call
>
> Easy upgrade to new phone, just transfer the SIM.
>
> Easy access to minutes used, just text *MIN# (for free)
>
> Rollover minutes !!
>
> ===
>
> Not to mention the corporate turmoil now going on at Sprint with Lauer
> being forced out.
In article <0MNXg.32483$tO5.4890@fed1read10>,
"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
> It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular in
> some areas and vice versa.
Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
coverage?
CulverCity, California is an area where Cingular is far better than
SprintPCS.
..
>
> "Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jackzwick-41780E.06432111102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
> >I switch from Sprint to Cingular over 2 years ago, and NEVER regretted
> > it for a second.
> >
> > Better, sturdier phones
> >
> > Better coverage
> >
> > GSM gives better voice reception
> >
> > Mostly on 850 MHz instead of 1900 MHz, means better coverage, better
> > indoor coverage.
> >
> > Far fewer dropped calls
> >
> > Far fewer dead zones
> >
> > No long waits on hold to get to a CSR
> >
> > No upselling by CSRs
> >
> > No hang ups by CSRs due to their handle time limits.
> >
> > CSRs willing to escalate a call
> >
> > Easy upgrade to new phone, just transfer the SIM.
> >
> > Easy access to minutes used, just text *MIN# (for free)
> >
> > Rollover minutes !!
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Not to mention the corporate turmoil now going on at Sprint with Lauer
> > being forced out.
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:47:23 UTC, Jackzwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In article <0MNXg.32483$tO5.4890@fed1read10>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
>
> > It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular in
> > some areas and vice versa.
>
>
> Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
> coverage?
>
SprintPCS was better for me on I44 southwest of Oklahoma City.
Cingular, even before I went GSM, drops out more often. But at my
home, Cingular was much better.
> > It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than
Cingular in
> > some areas and vice versa.
>
>
> Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
> coverage?
It's a big country, Jacklippe, which makes that a pretty stupid challenge!
Ken Caryl, Colorado, a small section of SW Littleton, in a valley.
Cingular is the only carrier not to have any real coverage here. When I
moved here 3 years ago, I was shocked to discover our cellphones didn't
work anywhere in the valley. Sprint has the best coverage here, followed
by T-Mobile (who I use), Nextel, and Verizon (who added coverage here
only in the last year.) In a field of six carriers (if you count Qwest,
who is a Sprint MVNO) Cingular comes in seventh, behind "smoke signals"
as an effetive means of wireless communication.
Generally, I'm a Cingular fan (I had service with them from 1993, in the
SBMS days, through mid-2003), but I'm frankly disappointed that they've
not improved Denver-area coverage at all since I moved here. (This is a
former AT&T Wireless service area, if it matters.) Between T-Mo's
expanded roaming coverage and Cingular's lack of improvements,both in and
around Denver, I rarely use my Beyond Wireless (Cingular TDMA) prepaid
"backup" phones anymore. (Frankly, the last couple of times I've used
them, they were roaming on Verizon, since Cingular coverage wasn't
available!)
> CulverCity, California is an area where Cingular is far better than
> SprintPCS.
I'm sure it is. However, if one carrier was truly superior to all others
in every way- cost, coverage, technology, etc., we'd all have that carrier.
We GET it, Jacklippe, you hate Sprint. Fine. That doesn't mean they're
wrong for everyone.
In article <45301245$0$19718$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 13 Oct 2006 19:47:23 +0000 Jackzwick wrote:
>
> > > It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than
> Cingular in
> > > some areas and vice versa.
> >
> >
> > Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
> > coverage?
>
> It's a big country, Jacklippe, which makes that a pretty stupid challenge!
>
> Ken Caryl, Colorado, a small section of SW Littleton, in a valley.
> Cingular is the only carrier not to have any real coverage here. When I
> moved here 3 years ago, I was shocked to discover our cellphones didn't
> work anywhere in the valley. Sprint has the best coverage here, followed
> by T-Mobile (who I use), Nextel, and Verizon (who added coverage here
> only in the last year.) In a field of six carriers (if you count Qwest,
> who is a Sprint MVNO) Cingular comes in seventh, behind "smoke signals"
> as an effetive means of wireless communication.
In article <jackzwick-0DF9EC.14472213102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>, Jackzwick wrote:
> Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
> coverage?
>
> CulverCity, California is an area where Cingular is far better than
> SprintPCS.
Apple Valley, CA. Right off I-15, halfway between San Diego and Las Vegas.
Sprint has better coverage than anyone else in Apple Valley, including in
the northeast corner where *no one* else has coverage -- not even Cingular or
Verizon.
Your mileage may vary. But I guarantee there are plenty of places where
Sprint is better than Cingular, just as there are undoubtedly plenty of
places where Cingular is better than Sprint. (Not that I'll ever know. As I've
said before, the chances of me ever switching to Cingular are exactly zero. I
will go without a cell phone before giving SBC/at&t any money, now that I've
had the good fortune to be able to drop their POTS and DSL services.)
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
In article <45301245$0$19718$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, Todd Allcock wrote:
> I'm sure it is. However, if one carrier was truly superior to all others
> in every way- cost, coverage, technology, etc., we'd all have that carrier.
> We GET it, Jacklippe, you hate Sprint. Fine. That doesn't mean they're
> wrong for everyone.
That's the whole point.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
I'm sure Sprint ISN'T roaming. Their coverage here is native. Verizon
had no coverage hereuntil late last year or o.
> And Sprint : is wrong for everyone.
Well, since you seem to bash Cingular regularly as well, now that you use
them, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps you are just wrong for all
wireless companies...
In article <4531c327$0$19716$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 14 Oct 2006 19:08:48 +0000 Jackzwick wrote:
>
> > You sure Sprint is roaming on Verizon analog?
>
> I'm sure Sprint ISN'T roaming. Their coverage here is native. Verizon
> had no coverage hereuntil late last year or o.
>
> > And Sprint : is wrong for everyone.
>
> Well, since you seem to bash Cingular regularly as well, now that you use
> them, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps you are just wrong for all
> wireless companies...
I'd like all Cellular carriers to ACTUALLY abide by their Industry Code
they claim to honor.
Laguna Niguel. Sprint works at my home and Cingular does not. I can also
name other areas where the opposite it true.
"Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jackzwick-0DF9EC.14472213102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <0MNXg.32483$tO5.4890@fed1read10>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
>
>> It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular
>> in
>> some areas and vice versa.
>
>
> Name one area where SprintPCS is better than Cingular in their native
> coverage?
>
> CulverCity, California is an area where Cingular is far better than
> SprintPCS.
>
>
> .
>>
>> "Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:jackzwick-41780E.06432111102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
>> >I switch from Sprint to Cingular over 2 years ago, and NEVER regretted
>> > it for a second.
>> >
>> > Better, sturdier phones
>> >
>> > Better coverage
>> >
>> > GSM gives better voice reception
>> >
>> > Mostly on 850 MHz instead of 1900 MHz, means better coverage, better
>> > indoor coverage.
>> >
>> > Far fewer dropped calls
>> >
>> > Far fewer dead zones
>> >
>> > No long waits on hold to get to a CSR
>> >
>> > No upselling by CSRs
>> >
>> > No hang ups by CSRs due to their handle time limits.
>> >
>> > CSRs willing to escalate a call
>> >
>> > Easy upgrade to new phone, just transfer the SIM.
>> >
>> > Easy access to minutes used, just text *MIN# (for free)
>> >
>> > Rollover minutes !!
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> > Not to mention the corporate turmoil now going on at Sprint with Lauer
>> > being forced out.
In article <RpDYg.32586$tO5.19925@fed1read10>, Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Laguna Niguel. Sprint works at my home and Cingular does not. I can also
> name other areas where the opposite it true.
Both in M-O-L and Apple Valley, I lived in a corner of an otherwise well-
covered metro area where most carriers didn't have service. In both cases,
Sprint has a tower literally a two-minute walk from the house in question.
In M-O-L, coverage undoubtedly extends out into Lake Erie, where no one lives. In Apple Valley, Sprint has two towers. One of them is in the neighborhood
from which I just moved; almost no one lives north of there, until you hit
the Barstow area. In both cases, the coverage I had was off the beaten path
and it was impressive that ANYONE had coverage.
I'm sure Cingular has similar spots. Repeat after me: "EVERY CARRIER has
areas of better-than-normal coverage, and areas of crappy or no coverage."
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
You are correct. Now if you could get all of the cell phone carriers and
shills to repeat after you... :-)
> I'm sure Cingular has similar spots. Repeat after me: "EVERY CARRIER has
> areas of better-than-normal coverage, and areas of crappy or no coverage."
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
> Linux/*BSD/Windows
> Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
>
> It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
Jack don't know Zhit about anything because he is full of Zhit.
On 10/13/06 9:53 AM, in article 0MNXg.32483$tO5.4890@fed1read10, "Mij Adyaw"
<mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
> It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular in
> some areas and vice versa. Jack has a hard-on for Sprint because of
> something that Sprint allegedly did to him that never really happened. Jack
> used to terrorize the alt.cellular.sprintpcs on a regular basis.
>
> "Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jackzwick-41780E.06432111102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
>> I switch from Sprint to Cingular over 2 years ago, and NEVER regretted
>> it for a second.
>>
>> Better, sturdier phones
>>
>> Better coverage
>>
>> GSM gives better voice reception
>>
>> Mostly on 850 MHz instead of 1900 MHz, means better coverage, better
>> indoor coverage.
>>
>> Far fewer dropped calls
>>
>> Far fewer dead zones
>>
>> No long waits on hold to get to a CSR
>>
>> No upselling by CSRs
>>
>> No hang ups by CSRs due to their handle time limits.
>>
>> CSRs willing to escalate a call
>>
>> Easy upgrade to new phone, just transfer the SIM.
>>
>> Easy access to minutes used, just text *MIN# (for free)
>>
>> Rollover minutes !!
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Not to mention the corporate turmoil now going on at Sprint with Lauer
>> being forced out.
>
>
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That is very true. He is just a Troll that is here to stir-up trouble.
Ignore him and he will go away.
"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C15FAA00.D2AE%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> Jack don't know Zhit about anything because he is full of Zhit.
>
>
> On 10/13/06 9:53 AM, in article 0MNXg.32483$tO5.4890@fed1read10, "Mij
> Adyaw"
> <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
>
>> It depends upon the area that you are in. Sprint is better than Cingular
>> in
>> some areas and vice versa. Jack has a hard-on for Sprint because of
>> something that Sprint allegedly did to him that never really happened.
>> Jack
>> used to terrorize the alt.cellular.sprintpcs on a regular basis.
>>
>> "Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:jackzwick-41780E.06432111102006@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
>>> I switch from Sprint to Cingular over 2 years ago, and NEVER regretted
>>> it for a second.
>>>
>>> Better, sturdier phones
>>>
>>> Better coverage
>>>
>>> GSM gives better voice reception
>>>
>>> Mostly on 850 MHz instead of 1900 MHz, means better coverage, better
>>> indoor coverage.
>>>
>>> Far fewer dropped calls
>>>
>>> Far fewer dead zones
>>>
>>> No long waits on hold to get to a CSR
>>>
>>> No upselling by CSRs
>>>
>>> No hang ups by CSRs due to their handle time limits.
>>>
>>> CSRs willing to escalate a call
>>>
>>> Easy upgrade to new phone, just transfer the SIM.
>>>
>>> Easy access to minutes used, just text *MIN# (for free)
>>>
>>> Rollover minutes !!
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Not to mention the corporate turmoil now going on at Sprint with Lauer
>>> being forced out.
>>
>>
>
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Re: How does Sprint compare with Cingular? 
In Apple Valley, Sprint has two towers. One of them is in the neighborhood
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