Re: Upgrade Phone without Change Plan. Former AT&T WS User.

On 2006-09-16, heartlock@linkearth.com <heartlock@linkearth.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:28:41 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:30:47 GMT, "Dennis A. Vitali" <vitali@snet.net>
>>wrote in <rSbxg.55622$VE1.25182@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> :
>>
>>>When I upgraded my old tdma phone to a new razr I kept the home 50 plan by
>>>not going to a store , but using the 800 number for cingular, complained
>>>three times, then they activated my razr.
>>
>>The SIM was activated, not the phone -- GSM phones don't need to be
>>activated.
>
> Sure they do. The IEMI numbers are turned off when they come from the
> factory. Just in case someone breaks into the store and steals a bunch of
> phones, the IEMI number was not entered into the system so the phones won't
> work. The rep has to activate or enter the IEMI number into the system
> before ht phones works. So, GSM phones have to be activated before they
> work. NO!?

No. The reason they record the IMEI number when they sell you the
phone is so, when the phone is returned for warrantee service, they
can determine when, and by whom, the phone was purchased. The phone
would work fine even if they didn't record the IMEI, but you might
have difficulty getting warrantee work done if the phone broke.

I use a phone that I purchased overseas, and while the store I
bought it from probably entered the IMEI in their system for warrantee
purposes I am very sure that system is in no way connected to any system
Cingular uses. Yet, when I bought Cingular service, they just handed my
the SIM card and paid no attention to the phone. I didn't buy the
phone from them, so the IMEI was uninteresting to them.

Dennis Ferguson

"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnegoupg.be.dcferguson@dhcp-floor2-sw-44.juniper.net...
> On 2006-09-16, heartlock@linkearth.com <heartlock@linkearth.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:28:41 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:30:47 GMT, "Dennis A. Vitali" <vitali@snet.net>
>>>wrote in <rSbxg.55622$VE1.25182@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> :
>>>
>>>>When I upgraded my old tdma phone to a new razr I kept the home 50 plan
>>>>by
>>>>not going to a store , but using the 800 number for cingular, complained
>>>>three times, then they activated my razr.
>>>
>>>The SIM was activated, not the phone -- GSM phones don't need to be
>>>activated.
>>
>> Sure they do. The IEMI numbers are turned off when they come from the
>> factory. Just in case someone breaks into the store and steals a bunch
>> of
>> phones, the IEMI number was not entered into the system so the phones
>> won't
>> work. The rep has to activate or enter the IEMI number into the system
>> before ht phones works. So, GSM phones have to be activated before they
>> work. NO!?
>
> No. The reason they record the IMEI number when they sell you the
> phone is so, when the phone is returned for warrantee service, they
> can determine when, and by whom, the phone was purchased. The phone
> would work fine even if they didn't record the IMEI, but you might
> have difficulty getting warrantee work done if the phone broke.
>
> I use a phone that I purchased overseas, and while the store I
> bought it from probably entered the IMEI in their system for warrantee
> purposes I am very sure that system is in no way connected to any system
> Cingular uses. Yet, when I bought Cingular service, they just handed my
> the SIM card and paid no attention to the phone. I didn't buy the
> phone from them, so the IMEI was uninteresting to them.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
>

You don't have to call Cingular for anything but the insurance.

I've bought 2 v400, 1 V551, 3 Razrs and 2 Razr V3i off ebay, I'm sure the
seller didn't call Cingular to activate them and I know I didn't.

Of these phones all but the V400s are in service with Cingular today and
Cingular still hasn't been called on any of them
...
bamp