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Old 11-04-2009, 12:49 PM
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Default T-Mobile Network Outage Accidental or Intentional?

Could one or more hacked 'Linux type' phones have been the accidental
cause of the T-Mobile network collapse? Don't they now have an open
source Linux G phone which hackers love on T-Mobile?

Could the collapse have been intentional on an election day when
critical results wold begin to pour in? (a form of social terrorism)

Was the collapse the result of an attack on T-Mobile's network
computers that control their network?

Does anyone know if the DHS ( and the FBI) has become involved in
investigating this outage as it is clearly a threat to national
security to have such outages?

Was T-Mobile affected globally?

Does Microsoft have any other connection to T-Mobile other than the
Danger phone?

Did someone try to upgrade the network to Windows 7? :>)


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Old 11-04-2009, 01:28 PM
Todd Allcock
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At 04 Nov 2009 04:49:06 -0800 No multi touch for sluggish Droid- “There's
A Lawsuit For That ...” AT&T Sues Verizon Over New TV Ads wrote:
> Could one or more hacked 'Linux type' phones have been the accidental
> cause of the T-Mobile network collapse? Don't they now have an open
> source Linux G phone which hackers love on T-Mobile?
>
> Could the collapse have been intentional on an election day when
> critical results wold begin to pour in? (a form of social terrorism)
>
> Was the collapse the result of an attack on T-Mobile's network
> computers that control their network?
>
> Does anyone know if the DHS ( and the FBI) has become involved in
> investigating this outage as it is clearly a threat to national
> security to have such outages?
>
> Was T-Mobile affected globally?
>
> Does Microsoft have any other connection to T-Mobile other than the
> Danger phone?
>
> Did someone try to upgrade the network to Windows 7? :>)
>



5% of T-Mobile customers, or about 1.7 milion, were impacted.
Fortunately for me, I wasn't among them. I had no idea there was an
outage until I read it about it online (ironically, while browsing the
web on my T-Mo phone...)

Maybe the estimated 1 million+ unlocked iPhone users who wilingly put up
with EDGE speeds on T-Mo to escape AT&T's overpriced underperforming
network all tried to download a new fart app at the same time and T-Mo
had to cut them off to protect the network...



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Old 11-04-2009, 02:07 PM
Steve Sobol
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In article <113f9086-96f1-467c-a7a4-
dd8decce988e@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, vic.healey@gmail.com says...
>
> Could one or more hacked 'Linux type' phones have been the accidental
> cause of the T-Mobile network collapse? Don't they now have an open
> source Linux G phone which hackers love on T-Mobile?


Vic, you're a fucking idiot.

> Was T-Mobile affected globally?


I haven't heard of any international outages.

> Does Microsoft have any other connection to T-Mobile other than the
> Danger phone?


Not that I know of.

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Old 11-04-2009, 02:09 PM
Steve Sobol
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Noticing the iPhone troll has cross-posted to the iPhone newsgroup...
removing that newsgroup.

In article <GDfIm.2307$1g6.1377@newsfe10.iad>, elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com
says...


>
> 5% of T-Mobile customers, or about 1.7 milion, were impacted.
> Fortunately for me, I wasn't among them. I had no idea there was an
> outage until I read it about it online (ironically, while browsing the
> web on my T-Mo phone...)


I was, in San Diego, but my wife wasn't, at home in Victorville. That
makes me wonder if it was due to capacity issues... remember, T-Mo has
just introduced a few more unlimited calling plans. Victorville is
small, compared to other SoCal cities (population 107K). San Diego, of
course, is huge. 1.3 million people living within the city limits.

> Maybe the estimated 1 million+ unlocked iPhone users who wilingly put

up
> with EDGE speeds on T-Mo to escape AT&T's overpriced underperforming
> network all tried to download a new fart app at the same time and T-Mo
> had to cut them off to protect the network...


Yeah, but I don't own an iPhone, what about me?

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Old 11-04-2009, 02:38 PM
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In <MPG.255b2aeec68ebce79897ca@news.justthe.net> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> writes:

>> 5% of T-Mobile customers, or about 1.7 milion, were impacted.
>> Fortunately for me, I wasn't among them. I had no idea there was an
>> outage until I read it about it online (ironically, while browsing the
>> web on my T-Mo phone...)


>I was, in San Diego, but my wife wasn't, at home in Victorville. That
>makes me wonder if it was due to capacity issues... remember, T-Mo has


I was driving across I-80 from NYC heading westward. Numerous
people trying to reach me didn't get through. I had no difficulty
calling out, but couldn't get through to customer service
or to the "#bal# or #min#" choices.


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Old 11-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Todd Allcock
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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.255b2aeec68ebce79897ca@news.justthe.net.. .

>> Maybe the estimated 1 million+ unlocked iPhone users who wilingly put up
>> with EDGE speeds on T-Mo to escape AT&T's overpriced underperforming
>> network all tried to download a new fart app at the same time and T-Mo
>> had to cut them off to protect the network...

>
> Yeah, but I don't own an iPhone, what about me?



Caught in the crossfire?




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Old 11-04-2009, 08:04 PM
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In article <qMhIm.2015$Zu5.387@newsfe24.iad>, elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com
says...


> > Yeah, but I don't own an iPhone, what about me?

>
> Caught in the crossfire?


I suppose.


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Old 11-04-2009, 09:54 PM
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Per No multi touch for sluggish Droid- “There's A Lawsuit For
That ...” AT&T Sues Verizon Over New TV Ads:
>Could the collapse have been intentional on an election day when
>critical results wold begin to pour in? (a form of social terrorism)
>
>Was the collapse the result of an attack on T-Mobile's network
>computers that control their network?


"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by
stupidity or incompetence."

Dunno where I read that... but it rings true to me.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:56 AM
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:54:46 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote in <kvt3f59b9qvpsiu5en3nrrgkpdp9vhmgnd@4ax.com>:

>Per No multi touch for sluggish Droid- “There's A Lawsuit For
>That ...” AT&T Sues Verizon Over New TV Ads:
>>Could the collapse have been intentional on an election day when
>>critical results wold begin to pour in? (a form of social terrorism)
>>
>>Was the collapse the result of an attack on T-Mobile's network
>>computers that control their network?

>
>"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by
>stupidity or incompetence."
>
>Dunno where I read that... but it rings true to me.


Hanlon's razor

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:44 PM
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Per John Navas:
>>
>>Dunno where I read that... but it rings true to me.

>
>Hanlon's razor



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

That was interesting.

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Old 11-06-2009, 02:20 AM
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No multi touch for sluggish Droid- “There's A Lawsuit For That ...” AT&T
Sues Verizon Over New TV Ads <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:113f9086-
96f1-467c-a7a4-dd8decce988e@p35g2000...oglegroups.com:

> Could one or more hacked 'Linux type' phones have been the accidental
> cause of the T-Mobile network collapse? Don't they now have an open
> source Linux G phone which hackers love on T-Mobile?
>
>


It's those damned Linux tablets Nokia made!....

Really, Vicky, you gotta get out more.....


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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:28:11 -0500, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@anoospaml.com> wrote:

> At 04 Nov 2009 04:49:06 -0800 No multi touch for sluggish Droid- “There's
> A Lawsuit For That ...” AT&T Sues Verizon Over New TV Ads wrote:
>> Could one or more hacked 'Linux type' phones have been the accidental
>> cause of the T-Mobile network collapse? Don't they now have an open
>> source Linux G phone which hackers love on T-Mobile?
>>
>> Could the collapse have been intentional on an election day when
>> critical results wold begin to pour in? (a form of social terrorism)
>>
>> Was the collapse the result of an attack on T-Mobile's network
>> computers that control their network?
>>
>> Does anyone know if the DHS ( and the FBI) has become involved in
>> investigating this outage as it is clearly a threat to national
>> security to have such outages?
>>
>> Was T-Mobile affected globally?
>>
>> Does Microsoft have any other connection to T-Mobile other than the
>> Danger phone?
>>
>> Did someone try to upgrade the network to Windows 7? :>)
>>

>
>
> 5% of T-Mobile customers, or about 1.7 milion, were impacted.
> Fortunately for me, I wasn't among them. I had no idea there was an
> outage until I read it about it online (ironically, while browsing the
> web on my T-Mo phone...)
>
> Maybe the estimated 1 million+ unlocked iPhone users who wilingly put up
> with EDGE speeds on T-Mo to escape AT&T's overpriced underperforming
> network all tried to download a new fart app at the same time and T-Mo
> had to cut them off to protect the network...


Both T-Mo lines in my household were affected, one more than the other.
My handset at one point could dial out, but could not ring my wife's handset
(got a "fast busy" instead). It *could* ring our landline.

The landline could ring (and connect with) my handset, but not my wife's
(same fast busy as described above). My wife's handset could not dial out
-- at all -- to anything.

Didn't try data on either handset -- called T-Mo on the landline and learned
there was a nationwide connnectivity outage, expected to be resolved by the
next morning. And resolved it was.

Cheers, -- tlvp
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