So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
> year contracts.
On Jun 9, 4:59*pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month?
>
> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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>
> > New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
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Nah
Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
percent.
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Jun 9, 4:59*pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
>wrote:
>> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
>>
>> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
>> > year contracts.- Hide quoted text -
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>
>Nah
>
>Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
>the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
>percent.
In message <RQg3k.2645$cW3.2590@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com> "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
>> year contracts.
>
>So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
>
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:16:49 -0500, Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Jun 9, 4:59*pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
>>wrote:
>>> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
>>>
>>> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
>>> > year contracts.- Hide quoted text -
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>>
>>Nah
>>
>>Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
>>the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
>>percent.
>
>
>I just wrote to sjobs@pixar.com complaining about that.
Pixar email address so longer valid.
If you want to state that new lower price of iPhone isn't if
data plans are more expensive, then write to
Ron wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 9, 4:59 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
>>>
>>> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
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>> Nah
>>
>> Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
>> the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
>> percent.
>
>
> I just wrote to sjobs@pixar.com complaining about that.
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:40:10 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>Ron wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 4:59 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a month ?
>>>>
>>>> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
>>>>> year contracts.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Nah
>>>
>>> Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
>>> the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
>>> percent.
>>
>>
>> I just wrote to sjobs@pixar.com complaining about that.
>
>3G isn't free.
Yes but Apple is touting $200 saving on 3G iPhone when its really $40
more epensive in total as dataplan is now $240 more over 2 years.
In article <0fmr44hpdj5ai9r6eurd735kic36rigvfh@4ax.com>,
Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:40:10 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Ron wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jun 9, 4:59 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> So your saying the 3G plan is 40.00 a month from the current 20.00 a
> >>>> month ?
> >>>>
> >>>> "4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
> >>>>> year contracts.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> Nah
> >>>
> >>> Unlimited internet access is now $30 in new iPhone plans not $20 as
> >>> the first users iPhone got. The internet price went up fifty
> >>> percent.
> >>
> >>
> >> I just wrote to sjobs@pixar.com complaining about that.
> >
> >3G isn't free.
>
>
> Yes but Apple is touting $200 saving on 3G iPhone when its really $40
> more epensive in total as dataplan is now $240 more over 2 years.
None of you guys use iPhones. Why is it even an issue?
I've got another year on my plan at the old price. No worries for me.
> Yes but Apple is touting $200 saving on 3G iPhone when its really $40
> more epensive in total as dataplan is now $240 more over 2 years.
They could have offered a plan that only uses the EDGE network, but I
expect that AT&T doesn't want to be adding more users to EDGE because
they want to shut it down soon.
Carriers always tout the low cost of subsidized equipment while not
talking about monthly charges. For Comcast, I wonder who signs up for
service based on a low monthly rate for the first three months.
To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
On Jun 10, 1:09*pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Ron wrote:
> > Yes but Apple is touting $200 saving on 3G iPhone when its really $40
> > more epensive in total as dataplan is now $240 more over 2 years.
>
> They could have offered a plan that only uses the EDGE network, but I
> expect that AT&T doesn't want to be adding more users to EDGE because
> they want to shut it down soon.
>
> Carriers always tout the low cost of subsidized equipment while not
> talking about monthly charges. For Comcast, I wonder who signs up for
> service based on a low monthly rate for the first three months.
>
> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
Shut down EDGE? When?
BTW TOMTOM has had a press release that they have converted their
TOMTOM software from their GPS to run on the iPhone along with Google
maps.
iPhone News wrote:
> In article <tvy3k.7453$mh5.7015@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
>> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
>
> FYI, GPS will also work on the "old" iPhones via the 2.0 update.
How is that possible? There is no GPS receiver in the old iPhone. You
can get a rough idea of your location by triangulating from cell
towers--when you're in an area with cell towers. Unless they let you use
an external Bluetooth GPS receiver (someone is selling a system like
this but it's pretty hokey).
3G, improved battery life, and GPS are the reasons to upgrade to the new
iPhone.
What isn't clear is what software application comes with iPhone 2.0 to
get the GPS functionality. Tom-Tom is planning to sell an application
for the iPhone which implies that what comes with it is pretty basic.
"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
> year contracts.
Plus there txt message plan which is not inc like the old one was. So you
can add another 120.00 to that. 5.00 X 24 Months. Which makes it now $360.00
for the two year contract.
So in short, The 2.0 iPhone that has lower cost to buy ends up costing more
then the 1.0 buying it at the 399.99 price.
Steve Jobs may think he is sly by saying the reason the people wanted to
make the switch did not for the reason of the high cost of the iPhone 1.0
cost.
Let's break it down to see the actual cost.
iPhone 1.0 cost 8GB 399.00
2 years of data plan 240.00
Above cost inc's 200 SMS
Total cost for two years inc iPhone = $639.00
iPhone 2.0 cost 8GB 199.00
2 years of data plan 720.00
200 SMS Plan 120.00 Inc in the 1.0 iPhone plan which is not inc
in the 2.0 plan
Total cost for two years inc the iPhone = $1039.00
Looks like it's going to cost $400.00 more for the 2 years.
So when Steve Jobs said why people that wanted to buy the iPhone but did
not, there reason was the cost. So we are going to lower the price to 199.00
> "4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bb6d57b9-5082-4c14-b9d6-38624c797e5b@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> New iPhone users will have to agree to pay at least $240 more in two
>> year contracts.
> iPhone 2.0 cost 8GB 199.00
> 2 years of data plan 720.00
> 200 SMS Plan 120.00 Inc in the 1.0 iPhone plan which is not
> inc in the 2.0 plan
> Total cost for two years inc the iPhone = $1039.00
>
> Looks like it's going to cost $400.00 more for the 2 years.
> Way to go Apple.
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns9AB9E07BE21F9noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:tvy3k.7453$mh5.7015
> @nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
>> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
>>
>>
>
> What are you going to do with the GPS, Steve? It only has one rather
> poor map program. Is something else available for it?
>
>
Our coolest is still: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/
Because it uses STANDARDIZED tiles, it has many sources for map,
satellite imaging, NEXRAD radar imaging and they just added Runway
Finder, all the latest Aeronautical charts, bringing the list up to:
Open Street Maps
Google Street Maps
Google Satellite Images
Google Terrain Imaging
Virtual Earth Street Maps
Virtual Earth Satellite Imaging
Virtual Earth Hybrid (streets imposed on satellite imaging) my favorite!
Yahoo Street Maps
Yahoo Satellite Imaging
Runway Finder Aeronatical Charts
NEXRAD Radar imaging from your GPS position, tracking and all.
TerraServer terrain mapping
and some Weather System in Argentina...I think.
It will place you in your exact parking space or in the lane you're
driving in on any road of Virtual Earth Hybrid with the Nokia BT GPS
receiver.
A demo version of Wayfinder installs with the OS 2008 Linux upgrade and
after 30 days or so they want you to $$subscribe$$ for automatic updates.
It's about the only software I pay for...(c; It used to be called
Navicore and talks to you like the $700 GPS dashboxes.
Sure wish someone would adapt Cumulus to Marine Chartography using the
free NOAA Marine Chart datafiles on the net. Make a great little
sailboat navigation system, even if it doesn't control the autopilots.
Larry wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:tvy3k.7453$mh5.7015
> @nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
>> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
>>
>>
>
> What are you going to do with the GPS, Steve? It only has one rather poor
> map program. Is something else available for it?
Tom-Tom will be selling their software for the iPhone.
"I" won't be doing anything with the iPhone, since I so often go to
areas with no AT&T coverage (unless I carry a separate PagePlus phone).
However iPhone 2.0 corrects at least some of the major issues with the
first model.
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
news:ybH3k.7526$mh5.4532@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:
> Larry wrote:
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:tvy3k.7453$mh5.7015
>> @nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
>>> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What are you going to do with the GPS, Steve? It only has one rather
>> poor map program. Is something else available for it?
>
> Tom-Tom will be selling their software for the iPhone.
>
> "I" won't be doing anything with the iPhone, since I so often go to
> areas with no AT&T coverage (unless I carry a separate PagePlus
> phone). However iPhone 2.0 corrects at least some of the major issues
> with the first model.
>
The TomTom software should work anywhere you get a GPS signal, unless
Stevie has found some way to charge you by the ATT minute for it. You
shouldn't need ATT for TomTom to map your course.
As TomTom would rather you bought their expensive mapper, I bet the
software's gonna be a little pricey, too.
In message <invalid-2D7D6B.19520710062008@news.giganews.com> iPhone News
<invalid@nospam.net> wrote:
>In article <tvy3k.7453$mh5.7015@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> To me, the attraction of the iPhone 2 is the GPS. Hopefully unlocked
>> versions of the iPhone will appear shortly after its introduction.
>
>FYI, GPS will also work on the "old" iPhones via the 2.0 update.
It will? You do know GPS is a hardware function, right?
> They could have offered a plan that only uses the EDGE network, but
> I expect that AT&T doesn't want to be adding more users to EDGE
> because they want to shut it down soon.
Why would they want to "shut it down soon?" 3G doesn't cover the entire
network, so EDGE is still the base-level "high speed network," AT&T still
sells non-3G phones, EDGE is still used by a large number current
customers, it's a solid source of revenue from international roamers with
Euro-only 3G phones, and it doesn't hog bandwidth because voice calls have
priority over EDGE data anyway. It makes money and it's harmless. (Hell,
they still have CSD active for roamers although most of their own customers
can't use it. I'd think that'd get shut down long before EDGE!)
News <News@Group.name> wrote in
news:OYudnXRjR4nvKNLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>
> Larry wrote:
>
>> The TomTom software should work anywhere you get a GPS signal, unless
>> Stevie has found some way to charge you by the ATT minute for it.
>
>
> Will clearly charge by the byte for the QUICK GPS CONNECTION / GPSLOCATE
> equivalent function.
>
> Cha-ching!!!
>
I suppose the GPS signal will HAVE to go from the phone to ATT for
"processing", then be sent back to the phone, at great expense, once you've
paid for your "subscription"......
Larry wrote:
> News <News@Group.name> wrote in
> news:OYudnXRjR4nvKNLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>
>>
>>Larry wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The TomTom software should work anywhere you get a GPS signal, unless
>>>Stevie has found some way to charge you by the ATT minute for it.
>>
>>
>>Will clearly charge by the byte for the QUICK GPS CONNECTION / GPSLOCATE
>>equivalent function.
>>
>>Cha-ching!!!
>>
>
>
> I suppose the GPS signal will HAVE to go from the phone to ATT for
> "processing", then be sent back to the phone, at great expense, once you've
> paid for your "subscription"......
>
> Cha-ching!!!
>
They do seem to want to charge for cell tower location based services,
but my reference was to the GPS satellite constellation trajectory load
that is used to speed the handheld radio's lock on sufficient satellites
for a 3-D fix.
News <News@Group.name> wrote in
news:XeadndhRdvhDqM3VnZ2dnUVZ_tLinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> They do seem to want to charge for cell tower location based services,
> but my reference was to the GPS satellite constellation trajectory load
> that is used to speed the handheld radio's lock on sufficient satellites
> for a 3-D fix.
>
>
Hmm....I never got charged for that before. I must be STEALING GPS service
from the US Taxpayers, like me, who are kinda "prepaid users".
Will iPhone charge for GLASNOST if you don't want GPS??
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