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Old 02-06-2008, 04:53 AM
John Navas
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Default AT&T Wireless data routing issue in San Francisco?

For the past few hours my Motorola V3xx has been able to access WAP on
the built-in browser, but not the rest of the Internet on Google Maps
for Mobile, Opera Mini, Google Mail for Mobile, etc.

traceroute suggests it's some sort of routing problem -- the first two
addresses I'm seeing are the same:
172.26.248.2
172.26.248.2
...

Is anyone else seeing this issue, or not seeing this issue? Thanks.

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Wireless data routing issue in San Francisco?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:53:35 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
<c4iiq3dnd26bp3kvuuf581oa0m49sh6ld3@4ax.com>:

>For the past few hours my Motorola V3xx has been able to access WAP on
>the built-in browser, but not the rest of the Internet on Google Maps
>for Mobile, Opera Mini, Google Mail for Mobile, etc.
>
>traceroute suggests it's some sort of routing problem -- the first two
>addresses I'm seeing are the same:
> 172.26.248.2
> 172.26.248.2
> ...
>
>Is anyone else seeing this issue, or not seeing this issue? Thanks.


Problem now resolved.

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Old 02-06-2008, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: AT&T Wireless data routing issue in San Francisco?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:23:01 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
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>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:53:35 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
><c4iiq3dnd26bp3kvuuf581oa0m49sh6ld3@4ax.com>:
>
>>For the past few hours my Motorola V3xx has been able to access WAP on
>>the built-in browser, but not the rest of the Internet on Google Maps
>>for Mobile, Opera Mini, Google Mail for Mobile, etc.
>>
>>traceroute suggests it's some sort of routing problem -- the first two
>>addresses I'm seeing are the same:
>> 172.26.248.2
>> 172.26.248.2
>> ...
>>
>>Is anyone else seeing this issue, or not seeing this issue? Thanks.

>
>Problem now resolved.


From reports posted to an AT&T Wireless Forum, the problem was
widespread, at least up and down the state of California.

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Old 02-07-2008, 07:36 PM
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Default A thinkpad newsgroup

I seem to recall that at one point Mr. Navas was going to start up a
thinkpad newsgroup--- something like:
comp.sys.laptop.thinkpad

What ever happened to this? My news server doesn't list any such group.
Thanks
Mahl

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Old 02-07-2008, 07:39 PM
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mwagner2@twcny.rr.com (Mahlon Wagner) wrote in
news:47ab6bb5$0$22625$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> I seem to recall that at one point Mr. Navas was going to start up a
> thinkpad newsgroup--- something like:
> comp.sys.laptop.thinkpad


No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.

> What ever happened to this? My news server doesn't list any such
> group.


Mine does.

Ask your news server's administrator.

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
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> comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad


I was looking for it until I found alt.comp.periphs.dildoes......(c;

Noone is using it. Make a great place for all those flame wars and some
OT fun....(c;

I wonder if they're USB powered or the ones that use a wall wart??
computer control or manual? Bluetooth control from SELLphone?

The Verizon models would only work if you use Vcast, of course, and pay-
per-view....er, ah, use....

Iphone models would require an iTunes subscription....

Gives "RAID drive" a whole new meaning!....hee hee.

thinkpads are boring............in comparison.




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Old 02-07-2008, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

>No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.


I'll have to look for this. I have some minor issues with my
(overall very nice) Thinkpad X61S, and Lenovo is not really
set up to help people.

Steve

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Old 02-07-2008, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:59:09 +0000 (UTC), spope33@speedymail.org (Steve
Pope) wrote in <fog60d$mfk$1@blue.rahul.net>:

>Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.

>
>I'll have to look for this. I have some minor issues with my
>(overall very nice) Thinkpad X61S, and Lenovo is not really
>set up to help people.


Check out ThinkWiki as well.

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote in <fog60d$mfk$1@blue.rahul.net>:


>>Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:


>>>No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.


>>I'll have to look for this. I have some minor issues with my
>>(overall very nice) Thinkpad X61S, and Lenovo is not really
>>set up to help people.


>Check out ThinkWiki as well.


Thanks. That does seem to be nearly all Linux information,
and at least one of my two issues is Windows-specific.

Steve

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:38 AM
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:16:56 +0000 (UTC), spope33@speedymail.org (Steve
Pope) wrote in <fogai8$s6m$1@blue.rahul.net>:

>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote in <fog60d$mfk$1@blue.rahul.net>:

>
>>>Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

>
>>>>No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.

>
>>>I'll have to look for this. I have some minor issues with my
>>>(overall very nice) Thinkpad X61S, and Lenovo is not really
>>>set up to help people.

>
>>Check out ThinkWiki as well.

>
>Thanks. That does seem to be nearly all Linux information,
>and at least one of my two issues is Windows-specific.


"Windows users shouldn't run away, there's a lot of
useful information for them as well."

See also <http://forum.thinkpads.com/>

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:55 PM
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spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote in
news:fog60d$mfk$1@blue.rahul.net:

> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>No, exactly like comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad.

>
> I'll have to look for this. I have some minor issues with my
> (overall very nice) Thinkpad X61S, and Lenovo is not really
> set up to help people.


You might have better luck here:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/index.php

You might also try to find newsgroup "ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad"; I think it
used to be an internal IBM newsgroup but it leaked into general USENET
distribution and now has a life of its own.

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Old 02-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

On 08 Feb 2008 13:55:01 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
<Xns9A3E50891F062VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:

>You might also try to find newsgroup "ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad"; I think it
>used to be an internal IBM newsgroup but it leaked into general USENET
>distribution and now has a life of its own.


It was never an internal IBM newsgroup.
It was and is a rogue newsgroup.

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Old 02-08-2008, 02:48 PM
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spamfilter1@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
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> It was and is a rogue newsgroup.


A rogue newsgroup?

That's funny!

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Old 02-09-2008, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: A thinkpad newsgroup

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:00:42 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
<elmop-55F647.18004208022008@nntp3.usenetserver.com>:

>In article <j9uoq31v38980n4j98gsp9av5v9bv0vidu@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08 Feb 2008 13:55:01 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
>> <Xns9A3E50891F062VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:
>>
>> >You might also try to find newsgroup "ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad"; I think it
>> >used to be an internal IBM newsgroup but it leaked into general USENET
>> >distribution and now has a life of its own.

>>
>> It was never an internal IBM newsgroup.
>> It was and is a rogue newsgroup.

>
>Ah, so says the authority.
>
>So tell us, John, exactly what makes it "rogue"?


Created by people without permission from IBM, which has specifically
discouraged such newsgroups.

>You'll never tell us, of course, because that's simply your OPINION.


Wrong again.

>But we're looking for cold, hard FACTS here. Not YOUR opinion.


You're not looking for anything. You'd have to take the childish
blinders off first.

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