This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
mostly unlocking services.
How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
alternate browser like Opera Mini.
"Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
> mostly unlocking services.
>
> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
After several visits to cellular stores, one guy suggested mall cellular
kiosks.
A woman in a kiosk of the target cellular carrier provided the service for
$35 for my Razr.
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
<steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
<l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>mostly unlocking services.
>
>How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
way.
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>
>>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>mostly unlocking services.
>>
>>How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
> way.
Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
Thurman wrote:
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:hgbn23h6svmjb0na7sacpu1k48ep02a880@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
>> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
>> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>> mostly unlocking services.
>>>
>>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>> way.
>
> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
phone.
My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
from Cingular to T-Mobile, but I was able to walk her through it using
her IMEI.
[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
Wireless Service.]
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <462c1e12$0$27218$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Thurman wrote:
>> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:hgbn23h6svmjb0na7sacpu1k48ep02a880@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
>>> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
>>> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>>> mostly unlocking services.
>>>>
>>>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>>> way.
>>
>> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
>
>Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
>you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
>prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
>phone.
All it actually takes normally is an account in good standing.
--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:57:53 -0500, "Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com>
wrote in <cwUWh.1049$Pi6.623@newsfe04.lga>:
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:hgbn23h6svmjb0na7sacpu1k48ep02a880@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
>> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
>> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>>mostly unlocking services.
>>>
>>>How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>>
>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>> way.
>
>Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
If your account isn't new and is in good standing, call Cingular
Customer Care.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
> you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
> prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad
> band phone.
Canada and Mexico use 850 and/or 1900, so any Cingular phone can
theoretically be used outside the US.
> My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
> from Cingular to T-Mobile...
I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
carriers... ;-)
> > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
> > carriers... ;-)
>
> Duh!
>
> They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.
Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
international rates.
Anyway, compared to (the old) AT&T's no unlocking for any reason ever
policy, Cingular is rather generous.
> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
> international rates.
They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <462d0b20$0$27162$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
>> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
>> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
>> international rates.
>
>They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
"They" (it) isn't worried about any SIM anywhere.
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
them?" Arguably I'm far more likely to take a higher-end Cingular phone
to T-Mo than an 850/1900-only phone that T-Mo would give me for free at
signup anyway.
Although I'm notplanning to leave T-Mo anytime soon, you can be darn sure
I had them give me the unlock code for my $250 MDA PPC phone and my
Symbian Nokia 3650 as soon as I\was ellugible. I've never bothered
requesting the codes for my crummy Nokia 6030s however.
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700 SMS wrote:
>
>> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
>
> Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
> them?"
I agree, but in their view the person asking for unlocking of a
quad-band at least has a legitimate reason for the request that doesn't
involve leaving Cingular for another carrier. A person asking for
unlocking of a dual band phone probably isn't planning to use a prepaid
SIM in Canada, Mexico, or any other part of North America that uses
850/1900, they're doing it to take the phone with them to another
carrier. Since even parts of North America use 900/1800 MHz, a quad band
phone is probably a good idea these days.
In article <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>,
"Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:
> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
> mostly unlocking services.
>
> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
> Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
> T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>
> Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>
> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a
Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always
crashed on startup.
Kurt, wrote the following at or about 4/24/2007 10:08 AM:
>>
>> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
>> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
>> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
>
> Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a
> Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always
> crashed on startup.
Been using Opera Mini on my Cingular Treo 650 since early last year.
Never had a problem with it Maybe it's time to take it off your phone
and try a fresh install.
In article <S9vXh.49$H84.39@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
Unquestionably Confused <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote:
> Kurt, wrote the following at or about 4/24/2007 10:08 AM:
>
> >>
> >> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
> >> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
> >> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
> >
> > Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a
> > Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always
> > crashed on startup.
>
> Been using Opera Mini on my Cingular Treo 650 since early last year.
> Never had a problem with it Maybe it's time to take it off your phone
> and try a fresh install.
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:08:28 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>,
> "Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>> mostly unlocking services.
>>
>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>>
>> Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
>> T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>>
>> Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>>
>> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
>> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
>> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
>
>Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a
>Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always
>crashed on startup.
They have a version for it.
Could you try it again, from mini.opera.com?
Post your results.
I am using opera mini on a Tmobil RAZR. It works, but as you can
imagine very slow.
In article <03vu23dm4rmq9uq4g93a4gh1hork2s18nk@4ax.com>,
"Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:08:28 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>,
> > "Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
> >> mostly unlocking services.
> >>
> >> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
> >>
> >> Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
> >> T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
> >>
> >> Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
> >>
> >> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
> >> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
> >> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
> >
> >Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a
> >Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always
> >crashed on startup.
> They have a version for it.
> Could you try it again, from mini.opera.com?
> Post your results.
>
> I am using opera mini on a Tmobil RAZR. It works, but as you can
> imagine very slow.
Installed OK but crashes going to any URL (brief message saying ending
user agreement)
Though the installation process has been greatly improved since last
time I installed it, I'll wait until they get the bugs out.
Blazer still is the most bulletproof.
Yep! Cingular is now unlocking, just like tmobile, after 90 days of
service in good standing. I joined cingular Jan 3 and have requested
the unlock codes for my RAZR and L7, and received the codes in about 5
days.
An additional requirement is that international roaming be active on
the account (don't know why). So, get the "no-fee" international
roaming added first, then request the code. This is discussed
extensively in howardforums
SMS;685096 Wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
> -
> I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're
> switching
> carriers... ;-)-
>
> Duh!
>
> They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
> north American phones is really not in their interest.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:40:11 +0100, mrcamp
<mrcamp.75a718@cellbanter.com> wrote in <mrcamp.75a718@cellbanter.com>:
>Yep! Cingular is now unlocking, just like tmobile, after 90 days of
>service in good standing. I joined cingular Jan 3 and have requested
>the unlock codes for my RAZR and L7, and received the codes in about 5
>days.
The 90 days is only for new service (and is often waived for good
cause). For existing service (phone upgrade), no such delay is needed.
>An additional requirement is that international roaming be active on
>the account (don't know why). So, get the "no-fee" international
>roaming added first, then request the code. This is discussed
>extensively in howardforums
International Roaming is not required for an unlock code. I just got
one for a V551, and I don't currently have International Roaming on my
account.
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