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Old 05-28-2007, 05:26 PM
szilagyic
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Default Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

Hello:

I am trying to find out the operating frequencies for Cingular and
Verizon's cellular Internet services, that are used with the PCMCIA
(laptop) cards. Basically I'm trying to find a high gain antenna that
will be compatible with both services, for the slower and higher
speeds (if possible). So far I have not been able to find a complete
list of the frequencies, that include the faster and slower access
speeds. Can anybody point me in the right direction?? I really
appreciate the help.

Thanks much,
--
Chris


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Old 05-28-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

Cellular is cellular - no matter if it is data, or voice, high speed or low....

But, what band??? There are two...

To do both, you will need a 'dual band' antenna.
And, I don't think there are any effective dual band yagis...??

~824Mhz - 894Mhz is the old 'cellular' band...

1850Mhz - 1990Mhz is the 'PCS' band.....




"szilagyic" <chris@groupinfo.com> wrote in message news:1180369619.214030.309910@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello:
>
> I am trying to find out the operating frequencies for Cingular and
> Verizon's cellular Internet services, that are used with the PCMCIA
> (laptop) cards. Basically I'm trying to find a high gain antenna that
> will be compatible with both services, for the slower and higher
> speeds (if possible). So far I have not been able to find a complete
> list of the frequencies, that include the faster and slower access
> speeds. Can anybody point me in the right direction?? I really
> appreciate the help.
>
> Thanks much,
> --
> Chris
>




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Old 05-28-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

I use this wireless amp/repeater...

http://www.gpsandmarineworld.com/dig...da4000sbr.html

$400.

Here's the deal... if you want to be able to take advantage of both the
800Mhz band as well as the 1900Mhz band you need either a dual-band system
with omni-directional antenna or you will need two Yagis, one for each
frequency, cabled together into a mixer and fed into your dual-band amp.

Typically, if using a Yagi, you choose one or the other, depending on your
carrier and location, and settle for only one band.

VZW primarily uses 800Mhz. However, in Florida (that I know of) they use a
whole lot of 1900Mhz. Depends on the area. There are others that use
1900Mhz.

For my wireless amp/repeater system I chose the dual-band amp with
omni-directional antenna so I could use it with any carrier anytime. Also so
that visitors to my home-office could also use their own cell phone, no
matter what carrier they had (Nextel being the only exception).

Also, high-gain Yagis might be fine if you have a decent signal to point one
at. However, due to the nature of CDMA technology, and it's ability to use
multiple disjointed signals reflecting from various directions to produce a
single usable signal, sometimes an omni directional antenna will do better
than a highly directional Yagi. Just depends.

This is a highly specialized area and often professional evaluation and
installation is the best bet.

My advice is, when in doubt about your signal area and/or you needs, always
go with dual-band and omni.

-Frank

"szilagyic" <chris@groupinfo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> I am trying to find out the operating frequencies for Cingular and
> Verizon's cellular Internet services, that are used with the PCMCIA
> (laptop) cards. Basically I'm trying to find a high gain antenna that
> will be compatible with both services, for the slower and higher
> speeds (if possible). So far I have not been able to find a complete
> list of the frequencies, that include the faster and slower access
> speeds. Can anybody point me in the right direction?? I really
> appreciate the help.
>
> Thanks much,
> --
> Chris
>



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Old 05-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

Frankster wrote:
> Here's the deal... if you want to be able to take advantage of both the
> 800Mhz band as well as the 1900Mhz band you need either a dual-band
> system with omni-directional antenna or you will need two Yagis, one for
> each frequency, cabled together into a mixer and fed into your dual-band
> amp.
>
> Typically, if using a Yagi, you choose one or the other, depending on
> your carrier and location, and settle for only one band.
> My advice is, when in doubt about your signal area and/or you needs,
> always go with dual-band and omni.


I'd go with an LPDA (Log Periodic Dipole Array) like an off-the-air TV
antennas use, err..."like" as in design and construction. They have
slightly less gain than a Yagi, but far far greater bandwidth. It could
cover 500 MHz up to over 3,000 MHz.

snipped from:
http://www.radio-electronics.com/inf...g_periodic.php

The log periodic antenna is a particularly useful design when modest levels
of gain are required, combined with wideband operation. A typical antenna
will provide between 4 and 6 dB gain over a bandwidth of 2:1 while
retaining an SWR level of better than 1.3:1. With this level of performance
it is ideal for many applications, although a log periodic antenna will be
much larger than a Yagi that will produce equivalent gain. However the Yagi
is unable to operate over such a wide bandwidth.

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Old 05-29-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

On Mon, 28 May 2007 09:54:18 -0700, in alt.internet.wireless ,
"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

>Cellular is cellular - no matter if it is data, or voice, high speed or low....
>
>But, what band??? There are two...


Four, at least.
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:25 PM
szilagyic
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Default Re: Verizon, Cingular data access frequencies

On May 28, 12:54 pm, "Ness_net" <rich...@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com>
wrote:
> Cellular is cellular - no matter if it is data, or voice, high speed or low....
>
> But, what band??? There are two...
>
> To do both, you will need a 'dual band' antenna.
> And, I don't think there are any effective dual band yagis...??
>
> ~824Mhz - 894Mhz is the old 'cellular' band...
>
> 1850Mhz - 1990Mhz is the 'PCS' band.....
>
> "szilagyic" <c...@groupinfo.com> wrote in messagenews:1180369619.214030.309910@p77g2000hsh.g ooglegroups.com...
> > Hello:

>
> > I am trying to find out the operating frequencies forCingularand
> > Verizon's cellular Internet services, that are used with the PCMCIA
> > (laptop) cards. Basically I'm trying to find a high gain antenna that
> > will be compatible with both services, for the slower and higher
> > speeds (if possible). So far I have not been able to find a complete
> > list of the frequencies, that include the faster and slower access
> > speeds. Can anybody point me in the right direction?? I really
> > appreciate the help.

>
> > Thanks much,
> > --
> > Chris


What about something like this? This claims to be a dual band yagi:

http://www.easystreetelectronics.com...PROD&ProdID=71


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