On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:17:14 -0800, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:hmdco3do82ksplqcr7fqq0lj85pe1jo5m7@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:30:17 -0500, Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org>
>> wrote in <4mvim3hpdfi5rs6d0nro92ji82ldhbvag7@gordol.org>:
>>
>>>Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, jay lunis said:
>>>
>>>> I have asked this of a few people and can't seem to get a consistent
>>>> answer (well, I can find a LOT of answers but since the answers seem to
>>>> vary to the extreme, I have no faith in any). Just gambling someone
>>>> here can answer. If not, please direct me to an appropriate ng.
>>>
>>>Since your question seems to be about WiFi security, try the
>>>security.wireless group on the GRC.com news server.
>>>http://www.grc.com/discussions.htm for server instructions.
>>
>> GRC is a bad place to go for security information.
>> See the Wireless Wiki below for good sources.
>The Tech TV people don't think so.
Tech TV is no more, sad to say. My many friends there have long since
been dispersed.
What you apparently have in mind is now just Leo Laporte, reduced to the
Internet, a radio program, and some TV for Canada and Australia. Leo's
a good guy, but a good judge of security he's not. Leo has a natural
affinity for Steve Gibson -- both are hucksters. Have you ever listened
to Leo's radio show?
>Do I smell a little Jealousy in the air ?
Jealousy of someone thrown out of work by a failed concept?
Jealousy of someone debunked by real security experts?
That's pretty funny.
Those with real security credentials consider GRC and Steve Gibson to be
a joke, albeit a dangerous one. When discussing GRC and Steve Gibson,
The Register has said:
* popinjay expert
* lack of security experience
* Gibson's erroneous assumption
* Steve Gibson's lame knockoff is dangerously broken
* infatuated with the self-created myth of his own genius
* overweening pride and essential incompetence
* not an übergeek; he just plays one on his Web site
* No human being could have his head that far up his own ass --
not even Steve Gibson
* technobabble and innuendo
* generates torrents of fear, uncertainty, and doubt
* The FUD Olympics
* Gibson has a bad track record: a history of latching onto
arcane issues that he doesn't fully understand and can never
prove, and converting his limited understanding into fodder
for the next internet melt-down.
* the vague territory that Gibson so comfortably inhabits
* Steve Gibson accidentally creates DoS tool
ShieldsUp ripe for malicious use
* Techno hypemeister
* If ShieldsUP is a crap toy, and XP really is a weapon
broadcasting its deadly raw sockets to the dark side, then
Steve is a fraud. But if the XP firewall really offers 'full
stealth' right out of the box, then Steve is a fraud.
So which is it?
* The Code Red hype Hall of Shame
Experts achieve 'exponential growth' of idiocy
* Techno-hypemeister and headline glutton
* Gibson's hysterical reasoning
* I'm not alone here. Vmyths founder Rob Rosenberger, who,
like myself, has debunked Gibson at length before an
ungrateful army of GRC patsies, agrees.
* Rosenberger's latest column exposes Gibson's utter fraudulence
in the area of virus research -- in particular his prediction
nine years ago that the "Dark Avenger Mutation Engine" was going
to make all anti-virus software permanently ineffective.
It was, Stevarino assured us, going to spawn the Mother of all
polymorphic viruses, because it involved "a sophisticated
reversible encryption algorithm generator."
And that's why we all depend on Steve Gibson's genius. He,
unique among mortal creatures, can understand such
techno-superstitious gobbledygook.
* Steve Gibson really is off his rocker
* Steve Gibson is talking absolute bollocks
* he finally had to cry uncle to a thirteen-year-old packeteer
named "Wicked", even though the kid tormenting him wasn't using
compromised boxes capable of sending spoofed packets.
Nevertheless Gibson - a security expert - couldn't make it stop.
* Because he's loopy, that's why.
* Madness writ large. The man seriously needs a holiday.
* Has Steve Gibson finally lost his mind?
* Network ICE has responded angrily to claims by security
consultant Steve Gibson that its product, BlackICE Defender is
"lame" and claims that it is "actually good for something fly in
the face of logic and reality".
* NetworkICE isn't the only company Mr Gibson managed to upset with
his piece. Microsoft is furious that he said its new OS Windows
XP would make the Internet unstable, other security experts doubt
his conclusions and hackers have bombarded his site to make their
feelings felt.
* Security expert Steve Gibson has posted a plea on his Web site
grc.com for hackers to leave him alone.
"I surrender. I surrender right now, completely and unconditionally,"
it begins. Now what kind of talk is that?
In case you're missed those last points, they refer to a 13-year old
that hacked Steve's own "security" software to take down grc.com,
which self-proclaimed uber-expert Steve was unable to stop.
For lots more, see the archive of "GRC Sucks dot com |
Debunking Steve Gibson, Syncookies, Nanomites, Pathlock" at
<http://web.archive.org/web/20070701183525/http://grcsucks.com/>
'Nough said.
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
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