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Old 03-15-2008, 01:07 PM
Richard Stoddard
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Default RAZR2 with Mac

I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
us who use Macs?



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Old 03-15-2008, 01:13 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Richard Stoddard wrote:
> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally happy
> with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a version
> of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site, and am
> frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it requires me
> to select my phone, but working through that menu I find the RAZR2 isn't
> listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of us who use Macs?
>
>


The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.

Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!


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Old 03-15-2008, 01:19 PM
Richard Stoddard
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

On 2008-03-15 08:13:28 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> said:
>
> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>
> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!


I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I
download rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I
don't have the option to use MPT to create my own?


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Old 03-15-2008, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

On 2008-03-15 08:44:57 -0400, Andreas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> said:
>
> I'm not a Mac user, however you shouldn't need MPT to upload ringtones
> to your phone anyway.
>
> The V8 (unless it comes with a firmware that was crippled by operator
> request) can be set to mass storage mode, in which it will attach to a
> USB host in very much the same way as a USB memory stick does. You
> should then be able to copy files using the ...uh... Finder.
>
> To put the phone to mass storage mode, go to the phone main menu,
> select "setup", then "connections", and change "USB setting" to "Memory
> Card". Then plug in the phone cable and you should be ready to go.


> RAZR2 can be both a V8 and a V9. Did you check if there is a V8 section?


So far I don't see either of the RAZR2 models listed when asked to
select my phone from the download site. Maybe they just haven't updated
their sire for awhile. (frustrating) In the meantime, thanks for the
advice on copying files. Maybe I can figure out a work around some way.


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Old 03-15-2008, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

Richard Stoddard wrote:
> On 2008-03-15 08:13:28 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
>> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>>
>> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!

>
>
> I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I download
> rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I don't have
> the option to use MPT to create my own?
>


Buy the hardware and O/S that the software you need runs on! Or find
some Mac software. Or write your own!


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Old 03-15-2008, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

In article <2008031508074116807-richardstoddard@maccom>,
Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:

> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
> happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
> version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
> and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
> requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
> the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
> us who use Macs?



Richard, I have a Razr (not the same model as yours), and I use MPT via
Parallels and XP on my Mac. Do you have an Intel Mac? If so, you can use
Boot Camp, Parallels or Fusion to install Windows and MPT so that you
have access to the features you want. If you have a PPC Mac, you can use
Virtual PC to do the same thing, albeit much more slowly, since the
emulation is for both the processor and the platform in this case.

BTW, Richard Gilbert, I'm not a "graphic arts type", and my Mac is
pretty special to me.

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Old 03-15-2008, 04:16 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

Sandy Foster wrote:
> In article <2008031508074116807-richardstoddard@maccom>,
> Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
>>happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
>>version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
>>and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
>>requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
>>the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
>>us who use Macs?

>
>
>
> Richard, I have a Razr (not the same model as yours), and I use MPT via
> Parallels and XP on my Mac. Do you have an Intel Mac? If so, you can use
> Boot Camp, Parallels or Fusion to install Windows and MPT so that you
> have access to the features you want. If you have a PPC Mac, you can use
> Virtual PC to do the same thing, albeit much more slowly, since the
> emulation is for both the processor and the platform in this case.
>
> BTW, Richard Gilbert, I'm not a "graphic arts type", and my Mac is
> pretty special to me.
>


I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.


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Old 03-15-2008, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

In article <47DBBD68.1070604@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>
> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!


Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.

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Old 03-15-2008, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

In article <2008031508193875249-richardstoddard@maccom>, Richard
Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:

> I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I
> download rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I
> don't have the option to use MPT to create my own?


There's DataPilot from Susteen. It's not the greatest, but it should do
the trick. I just use Bluetooth for transferring ringtones, pics, etc.
But I guess you have to get them first.

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Old 03-15-2008, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

In article <47DBE853.8080401@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
> accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
> overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.


You need to look at them again. Things have changed since 1984.

I'm the senior tech support specialist for a private university. It's
my job to keep working most of the University-owned PCs and Macs.
Fortunately, I have student workers who do most of the PC work and
leave me to the Macs. It's a great job.

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Old 03-15-2008, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <47DBBD68.1070604@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
>>it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>>
>>Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!

>
>
> Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.


Vista? I'd recommend W/XP SP2 if you can still find a copy. I've got
mine!!


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Old 03-15-2008, 06:59 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <47DBE853.8080401@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I have never owned a Mac. In a 35 year career in IT, I've managed to
>>accumulate about an hour of "face time" with a Mac. The hardware was
>>overpriced and the software didn't do anything I really needed or wanted.

>
>
> You need to look at them again. Things have changed since 1984.
>


My last look was ca. 2004.


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Old 03-16-2008, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: RAZR2 with Mac

In article <47DC0E21.3080305@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.

>
> Vista? I'd recommend W/XP SP2 if you can still find a copy. I've got
> mine!!


I was being sarcastic. Vista is a complete cluster fuck.

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Old 03-16-2008, 02:32 PM
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In article <47DC0E8C.7090803@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> My last look was ca. 2004.


You didn't take a very close look. The only way I'd go back to Windows
for personal use is if Apple either went out of business or created and
OS that sucked as much as Vista.

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Old 03-16-2008, 03:19 PM
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Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <47DC0E8C.7090803@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>My last look was ca. 2004.

>
>
> You didn't take a very close look. The only way I'd go back to Windows
> for personal use is if Apple either went out of business or created and
> OS that sucked as much as Vista.


Windows and, years ago, DOS are and were where the applications are! At
least that's where the applications I want to run are!!

I don't know about Vista. What I've heard does not encourage me to
upgrade. But I don't NEED to upgrade. I've got W/XP and I suspect it
will last me until I no longer need a computer. Just for the record, I
also run Solaris (SPARC), OpenVMS (VAX and Alpha) and Linux. Between
the four, there should always be at least one that will do what I need.


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Old 03-17-2008, 12:27 AM
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:19:38 -0400, Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:
>On 2008-03-15 08:13:28 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
><rgilbert88@comcast.net> said:
>>
>> The Mac has always sold into a niche market! Graphic arts types love
>> it. To everyone else, it's nothing special.
>>
>> Microsoft and Windows won the war many years ago!

>
>I'm not interested in an argument over Mac v Windows. How do I
>download rintones, etc., from their site for the RAZR2 given that I
>don't have the option to use MPT to create my own?


When I got my RAZR2 V8, I found the easiest way to get my ringtones on to
my new phone from my Linux machine (yeah, not a Mac - but not Windows
either) was by Bluetooth. It just worked, no messing around with settings
or random software.

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Old 03-17-2008, 12:28 AM
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:32:05 -0700, Mr. Strat <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>In article <47DC0E21.3080305@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert
><rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> > Yeah, Vista is an overwhelming success.

>>
>> Vista? I'd recommend W/XP SP2 if you can still find a copy. I've got
>> mine!!

>
>I was being sarcastic. Vista is a complete cluster fuck.


Careful now. Comparing Vista to a complete cluster fuck is not fair on all
the other complete cluster fucks out there.

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Old 03-17-2008, 01:20 AM
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On 2008-03-16 19:27:12 -0400, soruk@bitbucket.eridani.co.uk (Soruk) said:

> When I got my RAZR2 V8, I found the easiest way to get my ringtones on to
> my new phone from my Linux machine (yeah, not a Mac - but not Windows
> either) was by Bluetooth. It just worked, no messing around with settings
> or random software.


I'll give this a try, as well as linking them with the USB cable. All I
need is a source of ringtones, since Motorola's site doesn't have any
for this model. Will those for the RAZR v3 work on it? Normally I don't
get hung up about ringtones, but I just don't like any that came with
it.


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Old 03-17-2008, 07:29 AM
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In article <2008031508074116807-richardstoddard@maccom>,
Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> wrote:

> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
> happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
> version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
> and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
> requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
> the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
> us who use Macs?


I don't have a v8, but I do own a v9m. I make my own tones.

I've been using Bitpim to transfer files from my Mac to the memory card
in the phone. It's an incredibly wonky program that works about 70% of
the time.

My carrier, Verizon, doesn't allow me to modify their directories in the
phone itself... so all I can do is transfer the sound to the memory card
- and then I have to mail the sound to myself in order to use it as a
ringtone.

Shitty way to do it... but I have a messaging plan, so it doesn't cost
me anything extra.

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Old 03-20-2008, 05:13 PM
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Andreas Wenzel wrote:
> Richard Stoddard schrieb:
>> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
>> happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
>> version of MPT for Mac.

>
> I'm not a Mac user, however you shouldn't need MPT to upload ringtones
> to your phone anyway.
>
> The V8 (unless it comes with a firmware that was crippled by operator
> request) can be set to mass storage mode, in which it will attach to a
> USB host in very much the same way as a USB memory stick does. You
> should then be able to copy files using the ...uh... Finder.
>
> To put the phone to mass storage mode, go to the phone main menu, select
> "setup", then "connections", and change "USB setting" to "Memory Card".
> Then plug in the phone cable and you should be ready to go.
>
>> I tried to download ringtones from their site, and am frustrated with
>> that as well. When I select a ringtone, it requires me to select my
>> phone, but working through that menu I find the RAZR2 isn't listed.

>
> RAZR2 can be both a V8 and a V9. Did you check if there is a V8 section?
>
>> Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of us who use Macs?

>
> You should consider yourself lucky not having to use crappy MTP.
> However, as long as there is no iSync plugin for the V8, there will be
> no calender/adressbook syncing between the V8 and a Mac.
>
> Andreas
>
>


You can also run XP SP2 on the Intel Macs using Fusion or Parallels.
Fusion gives XP direct access to USB ports on Intel Macs.

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Old 03-20-2008, 06:44 PM
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dan@nospam.com schrieb:
> [...]
> You can also run XP SP2 on the Intel Macs using Fusion or Parallels.
> Fusion gives XP direct access to USB ports on Intel Macs.


True, but would you really install a second OS only to sync your phone?

Andreas

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Old 03-21-2008, 03:05 PM
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In article <fru7p0$bo9$1@online.de>, Andreas Wenzel
<awspambucket@gmx.de> wrote:

> True, but would you really install a second OS only to sync your phone?


And given how long it takes to load Windows with Parallels, you could
copy your address book onto paper in that amount of time.

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Old 03-24-2008, 05:32 PM
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Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <fru7p0$bo9$1@online.de>, Andreas Wenzel
> <awspambucket@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> True, but would you really install a second OS only to sync your phone?

>
> And given how long it takes to load Windows with Parallels, you could
> copy your address book onto paper in that amount of time.


Fusion loads XP very fast.

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Old 03-26-2008, 03:12 AM
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In article <47e7d7a3$0$87068$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, <dan@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Fusion loads XP very fast.


But it's still Windows. I'll pass.

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Old 04-13-2008, 03:08 PM
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On 2008-03-15 07:07:41 -0500, Richard Stoddard <richardstoddard@mac.com> said:

> I just purchased an unlocked RAZR2 v8 from Motorola. I'm generally
> happy with it so far, but just discovered that Motorola doesn't have a
> version of MPT for Mac. I tried to download ringtones from their site,
> and am frustrated with that as well. When I select a ringtone, it
> requires me to select my phone, but working through that menu I find
> the RAZR2 isn't listed. Doesn't Motorola support the RAZR2 or those of
> us who use Macs?


Take a look at Moto4lin. It is in very early stages of development but
does a decent job. I have used it with an early model V3 as well as a
few V551s. This app is actually being developed for Linux but since
Macs running OS X are Unix based, the source can be compiled and
executed. I had to download a precompiled binary as I am running
Leopard (10.5) which doesn't have certain old tools to get the job
done....yet.

Here is the main site that has the info for Mac users:
http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac_OS_X


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