Apple's New Guided Tour of 3G iPhone

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-AB92CD.21493401072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> In article <Xns9ACED9DC160F2bob@216.196.97.136>,
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> >> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for
>> >> the iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the
>> >> original iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further
>> >> announcements since that time.
>> >
>> > yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the
>> > iPhone in 10 Days! Things like Video Recording,
>>
>> BNot on the 3g iPhone
>
> sure they will, both 2 & 3G iphones will have it.
>
>> > MMS,
>>
>> Old technology
>
> i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
> those who want it.

Then you openly admit that the iPhone is struggling to catch up to the
competition in terms of functionality. That's all I needed to hear.

>
>> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
>> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
>>
>> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe
>> model.
>
> no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights
>
>> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't
>> > have easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the
>> > touch of a finger, sweet...
>>
>> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How
>> dare they?
>
> ??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
> everyone else builds the rest...
>

No- a solid foundation would include functionality that is standard on even
the most basic cell phones. The iPhone misses on this.

In article <Xns9ACFB1BCCD277bob@216.196.97.136>,
The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
> > those who want it.
>
> Then you openly admit that the iPhone is struggling to catch up to the
> competition in terms of functionality. That's all I needed to hear.

the iphone has never struggled, but it is the strongest "new kid" on the
block so it takes a year or so to fill out the application base. the
iphone will soon have more quality apps than any other cell phone, only
8 days away!

> >> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
> >> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
> >>
> >> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe
> >> model.
> >
> > no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights
> >
> >> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't
> >> > have easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the
> >> > touch of a finger, sweet...
> >>
> >> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How
> >> dare they?
> >
> > ??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
> > everyone else builds the rest...
> >
>
> No- a solid foundation would include functionality that is standard on even
> the most basic cell phones. The iPhone misses on this.

but not in 8 days it won't... sounds like you are falling further
behind, watch the iPhone 2.0 tour, it will freak you out...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedto...new/large.html

-

"BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

> > actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces
> > such
> > fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the ipod
> > holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese
> > smartphone
> > shoppers want an iPhone.
> >
> > http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1
> >
> > the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
> > competitors... isn't that interesting.
>
> Apple is FAR from perfection. They couldn't even repair an iPOD that was
> returned to them 3 times under warranty because they couldn't understand
> or wouldn't admit what the problem was (fairly simple, it wouldn't hold
> a charge).

sounds like user error.

> That was my one and only horrific experience with Apple. I
> wouldn't DARE try again.

but what can apple do about a user that does know how to operate a
simple device? you didn't return it 3 times since on the third attempt
you would have received a new device. don't make up stories, okay?

> Believe it or not fanboy, other manufacturers
> make damn good products that are easy to use and reliable and, if
> customer service IS needed, they actually fix the problem right the
> first time! Example, the Delete key fell off my Sony laptop's keyboard.
> I brought into Sony's repair depot and they fitted it with a whole new
> keyboard and had me on my way in under 30 minutes. Try that with an
> Apple!

you are just bitter that apple makes better equipment.

you'll get your first apple product someday and then understand what
extreme quality is all about. but lying, will get you nowhere.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-0E2421.18453002072008@news.qwest.net:

> In article <Xns9ACFB1BCCD277bob@216.196.97.136>,
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
>> > those who want it.
>>
>> Then you openly admit that the iPhone is struggling to catch up to
>> the competition in terms of functionality. That's all I needed to
>> hear.
>
> the iphone has never struggled,

Sure it has. No voice dialing and no swappable memory are just two of
the most basic features available on most basic phones these days that
are lacking on the iPhone.


> but it is the strongest "new kid" on
> the block

No- they are simply the loudest.

> so it takes a year or so to fill out the application base.
> the iphone will soon have more quality apps than any other cell phone,
> only 8 days away!

No, it doesn't if you put a generally accepted platform on your phone.
Build a new Symbian or WinMobile phone and there are thousands of apps
already at yoru users' disposal.


>
>> >> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
>> >> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
>> >>
>> >> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe
>> >> model.
>> >
>> > no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights
>> >
>> >> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they
>> >> > can't have easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps
>> >> > by the touch of a finger, sweet...
>> >>
>> >> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How
>> >> dare they?
>> >
>> > ??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
>> > everyone else builds the rest...
>> >
>>
>> No- a solid foundation would include functionality that is standard
>> on even the most basic cell phones. The iPhone misses on this.
>
> but not in 8 days it won't... sounds like you are falling further
> behind, watch the iPhone 2.0 tour, it will freak you out...
>

Even in 8 days. Stereo bluetooth says hello.

Jim Mason <jim.mason@removethisukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> > Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
>
> The relevance to alt.cellular.nokia being?

i have an engineering friend at nokia and she likes to keep abreast of
what the future will bring to her company.

so you can enjoy it too! well worth watching!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedto...new/large.html

8 days to go!!!!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-0E2421.18453002072008@news.qwest.net...
> In article <Xns9ACFB1BCCD277bob@216.196.97.136>,
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
>> > those who want it.
>>
>> Then you openly admit that the iPhone is struggling to catch up to the
>> competition in terms of functionality. That's all I needed to hear.
>
> the iphone has never struggled, but it is the strongest "new kid" on the
> block so it takes a year or so to fill out the application base. the
> iphone will soon have more quality apps than any other cell phone, only
> 8 days away!
>
>> >> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
>> >> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
>> >>
>> >> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe
>> >> model.
>> >
>> > no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights
>> >
>> >> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't
>> >> > have easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the
>> >> > touch of a finger, sweet...
>> >>
>> >> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How
>> >> dare they?
>> >
>> > ??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
>> > everyone else builds the rest...
>> >
>>
>> No- a solid foundation would include functionality that is standard on
>> even
>> the most basic cell phones. The iPhone misses on this.
>
> but not in 8 days it won't... sounds like you are falling further
> behind, watch the iPhone 2.0 tour, it will freak you out...
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedto...new/large.html
>
> -

Freaked out ? Your the Freak!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-CECBE6.18525902072008@news.qwest.net...
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> > actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces
>> > such
>> > fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the
>> > ipod
>> > holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese
>> > smartphone
>> > shoppers want an iPhone.
>> >
>> > http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1
>> >
>> > the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
>> > competitors... isn't that interesting.
>>
>> Apple is FAR from perfection. They couldn't even repair an iPOD that
>> was
>> returned to them 3 times under warranty because they couldn't
>> understand
>> or wouldn't admit what the problem was (fairly simple, it wouldn't
>> hold
>> a charge).
>
> sounds like user error.
>
>> That was my one and only horrific experience with Apple. I
>> wouldn't DARE try again.
>
> but what can apple do about a user that does know how to operate a
> simple device? you didn't return it 3 times since on the third attempt
> you would have received a new device. don't make up stories, okay?
>
>> Believe it or not fanboy, other manufacturers
>> make damn good products that are easy to use and reliable and, if
>> customer service IS needed, they actually fix the problem right the
>> first time! Example, the Delete key fell off my Sony laptop's
>> keyboard.
>> I brought into Sony's repair depot and they fitted it with a whole
>> new
>> keyboard and had me on my way in under 30 minutes. Try that with an
>> Apple!
>
> you are just bitter that apple makes better equipment.
>
> you'll get your first apple product someday and then understand what
> extreme quality is all about. but lying, will get you nowhere.

No. I'm not lying. And it was not user error. After about 3 weeks of
ownership the battery simply wouldn't hold a charge. They said they'd
send a new one on the 3d return but they didn't until I escalated on the
4th return. When we last had this discussion almost a year ago I
furnished actual trouble ticket numbers and you claimed to have even
checked it out! So how dare you impugn my integrity.
Further proof you're a fanboy is that anytime something doesn't fit your
mold you simply deem it untrue or a "user" problem (btw, explain how a
battery not holding a charge could be user error).
Bitter about Apple making better equipment? How so? My Sony laptop is
everything I want in a laptop and the service, when rarely needed, is
superb. And my Sandisk 8GB MP3 player cost far less than a Nano, plays
more formats and doesn't hijack my PC's music files. AND, I pay 18 cents
for a song - not a buck like you do! And my Motorola phone? Solid as a
rock and I can actually USE my unlimited minutes because I can change
the battery in the field when there's no charging option available. When
I'm on a building site and on the phone with contractors all day I can't
stop to charge my battery. I just pop in a spare and I'm good to go
24/7. Admit it puppy - you the poster boy for an Apple fanboy. Embrace
it and be happy.

In article <3radnaZXFaQK2PHVnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

> No. I'm not lying. And it was not user error. After about 3 weeks of
> ownership the battery simply wouldn't hold a charge. They said they'd
> send a new one on the 3d return but they didn't until I escalated on the
> 4th return. When we last had this discussion almost a year ago I
> furnished actual trouble ticket numbers and you claimed to have even
> checked it out! So how dare you impugn my integrity.
> Further proof you're a fanboy is that anytime something doesn't fit your
> mold you simply deem it untrue or a "user" problem (btw, explain how a
> battery not holding a charge could be user error).
> Bitter about Apple making better equipment? How so? My Sony laptop is
> everything I want in a laptop and the service, when rarely needed, is
> superb. And my Sandisk 8GB MP3 player cost far less than a Nano, plays
> more formats and doesn't hijack my PC's music files. AND, I pay 18 cents
> for a song - not a buck like you do! And my Motorola phone? Solid as a
> rock and I can actually USE my unlimited minutes because I can change
> the battery in the field when there's no charging option available. When
> I'm on a building site and on the phone with contractors all day I can't
> stop to charge my battery. I just pop in a spare and I'm good to go
> 24/7. Admit it puppy - you the poster boy for an Apple fanboy. Embrace
> it and be happy.

so bitter, so very bitter... did you have a bad childhood? because
something surely went wrong for you to hate quality products so much.

cheer up!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-6B4B35.23303202072008@news.qwest.net...
> In article <3radnaZXFaQK2PHVnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> No. I'm not lying. And it was not user error. After about 3 weeks of
>> ownership the battery simply wouldn't hold a charge. They said they'd
>> send a new one on the 3d return but they didn't until I escalated on
>> the
>> 4th return. When we last had this discussion almost a year ago I
>> furnished actual trouble ticket numbers and you claimed to have even
>> checked it out! So how dare you impugn my integrity.
>> Further proof you're a fanboy is that anytime something doesn't fit
>> your
>> mold you simply deem it untrue or a "user" problem (btw, explain how
>> a
>> battery not holding a charge could be user error).
>> Bitter about Apple making better equipment? How so? My Sony laptop
>> is
>> everything I want in a laptop and the service, when rarely needed, is
>> superb. And my Sandisk 8GB MP3 player cost far less than a Nano,
>> plays
>> more formats and doesn't hijack my PC's music files. AND, I pay 18
>> cents
>> for a song - not a buck like you do! And my Motorola phone? Solid as
>> a
>> rock and I can actually USE my unlimited minutes because I can change
>> the battery in the field when there's no charging option available.
>> When
>> I'm on a building site and on the phone with contractors all day I
>> can't
>> stop to charge my battery. I just pop in a spare and I'm good to go
>> 24/7. Admit it puppy - you the poster boy for an Apple fanboy.
>> Embrace
>> it and be happy.
>
> so bitter, so very bitter... did you have a bad childhood? because
> something surely went wrong for you to hate quality products so much.
>
> cheer up!

Game over. You have no facts.

In article <7MCdnaV-9JdG4fHVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@comcast.com>,
"BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

> >> Bitter about Apple making better equipment? How so? My Sony laptop
> >> is
> >> everything I want in a laptop and the service, when rarely needed, is
> >> superb. And my Sandisk 8GB MP3 player cost far less than a Nano,
> >> plays
> >> more formats and doesn't hijack my PC's music files. AND, I pay 18
> >> cents
> >> for a song - not a buck like you do! And my Motorola phone? Solid as
> >> a
> >> rock and I can actually USE my unlimited minutes because I can change
> >> the battery in the field when there's no charging option available.
> >> When
> >> I'm on a building site and on the phone with contractors all day I
> >> can't
> >> stop to charge my battery. I just pop in a spare and I'm good to go
> >> 24/7. Admit it puppy - you the poster boy for an Apple fanboy.
> >> Embrace
> >> it and be happy.
> >
> > so bitter, so very bitter... did you have a bad childhood? because
> > something surely went wrong for you to hate quality products so much.
> >
> > cheer up!
>
> Game over. You have no facts.

but we do know you are irrationally bitter, that's an established fact.