Apple's New Guided Tour of 3G iPhone

Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

Enjoy!

....and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but those
of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
the iphone.


"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-AE2F38.11424801072008@news.qwest.net...
> Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> Enjoy!

In article <apony-AE2F38.11424801072008@news.qwest.net>, apony@pasture.com
says...
> Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!

The relevance to alt.cellular.nokia being?

"BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
> groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but those
> of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
> the iphone.

ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
it's good to let people start learning about them now.

and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
move up to an iPhone.

so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html

(or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
sized version of the tour here)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

-

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-E4389A.13010901072008@news.qwest.net...
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
>> groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but those
>> of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
>> the iphone.
>
> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
> it's good to let people start learning about them now.
>
> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
> move up to an iPhone.
>
> so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html
>
> (or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
> sized version of the tour here)
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>

Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product that
the majority of cell phone users want, which they obviously haven't, and the
smarmy ranting of fools like you, certainly aren't helping sales any
> -

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-E4389A.13010901072008@news.qwest.net...
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
>> groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but those
>> of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
>> the iphone.
>
> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
> it's good to let people start learning about them now.
>
> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
> move up to an iPhone.
>
> so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html
>
> (or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
> sized version of the tour here)
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>
> -

O crap, more of the same shit from the same shit.

You're the same one that predicted the world would collapse from
overpopulation by 1990, a new Ice Age would begin no later than 1985, and
that the Mac was the computer for "the rest of us" and would kill off all
other PC makers. The real reason you post this crap is to help you deal
with your buyers remorse at having once more being nailed when you bent over
and picked up the soap for Steve Jobs. You should be focused on that other
super prediction about how 2/3 of the Western world have full blown AIDS by
1990. That fits better with your role vis a via Apple.


have a nice day

"Rashputin" <rashputin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> O crap, more of the same shit from the same shit.
>
> You're the same one that predicted the world would collapse from
> overpopulation by 1990, a new Ice Age would begin no later than 1985, and
> that the Mac was the computer for "the rest of us" and would kill off all
> other PC makers. The real reason you post this crap is to help you deal
> with your buyers remorse at having once more being nailed when you bent over
> and picked up the soap for Steve Jobs. You should be focused on that other
> super prediction about how 2/3 of the Western world have full blown AIDS by
> 1990. That fits better with your role vis a via Apple.

sorry, you must be confused with someone else.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-EA7E91.15351401072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Rashputin" <rashputin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> O crap, more of the same shit from the same shit.
>>
>> You're the same one that predicted the world would collapse from
>> overpopulation by 1990, a new Ice Age would begin no later than 1985,
>> and
>> that the Mac was the computer for "the rest of us" and would kill off
>> all
>> other PC makers. The real reason you post this crap is to help you
>> deal
>> with your buyers remorse at having once more being nailed when you
>> bent over
>> and picked up the soap for Steve Jobs. You should be focused on that
>> other
>> super prediction about how 2/3 of the Western world have full blown
>> AIDS by
>> 1990. That fits better with your role vis a via Apple.
>
> sorry, you must be confused with someone else.

No, I think he's got you nailed pretty well, fanboi.

"RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
news:486a924e$0$11618$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product that
> the majority of cell phone users want, which they obviously haven't, and the
> smarmy ranting of fools like you, certainly aren't helping sales any

Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of the desktop
OS market business by developing a product the majority of computer users
want?

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-E4389A.13010901072008@news.qwest.net:

> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other
>> non-ATT) groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to
>> understand, but those of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers
>> just don't care about the iphone.
>
> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
> it's good to let people start learning about them now.

Oh, look. Little Oxtard came back for a visit.

In a few years, they'll be lucky to hit 6%, let alone 60%. Now that Jobs
has given up on his claim of "changing the way wireless companies do
business," he'll lose interest. IN a few years, the only iPhones available
will be used ones.


>
> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with
> no contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people
> wanting to move up to an iPhone.

Yeah- for $600 to start. I'm sure folks will be beating down the doors at
that price. Not.

In article <q4KdnXt18JqUOvfVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

> > sorry, you must be confused with someone else.
>
> No, I think he's got you nailed pretty well, fanboi.

i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the Tour!

On Jul 1, 1:42*pm, Oxford <ap...@pasture.com> wrote:
> Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> Enjoy!

posted by arn on Tuesday July 01, 2008 01:34 PM

Another iPhone FREEBIE

A sharp individual spotted the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) client on
the App Store during the Guided Tour posted today.

The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
that time.

"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ykzak.181736$Uf4.144756@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
> "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:486a924e$0$11618$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
>> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product
>> that the majority of cell phone users want, which they obviously haven't,
>> and the smarmy ranting of fools like you, certainly aren't helping sales
>> any
>
> Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of the
> desktop OS market business by developing a product the majority of
> computer users want?
>
> Nope,only that it was preferred over anything anyone else had

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-BDE766.20004901072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <q4KdnXt18JqUOvfVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> > sorry, you must be confused with someone else.
>>
>> No, I think he's got you nailed pretty well, fanboi.
>
> i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the
> Tour!

Spoken like a true fanboi.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-BDE766.20004901072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <q4KdnXt18JqUOvfVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
>> > sorry, you must be confused with someone else.
>>
>> No, I think he's got you nailed pretty well, fanboi.
>
> i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the Tour!

Always been a fanboi - a blind, rabid one - the worst kind.

And you have also been wrong.

Remember your offhand dismissal of 3G? The stupid comments you made?
Now that it's actually IN an iPhone - I guess you must be eating those words...

Then, your insipid wi-fi assertions. Months later, proven to be utterly wrong.

Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most part.

Bottom line - FANBOY!!!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-E4389A.13010901072008@news.qwest.net...
> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>
> > ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
> > groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but those
> > of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
> > the iphone.
>
> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
> it's good to let people start learning about them now.
>
> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
> move up to an iPhone.
>
> so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html
>
> (or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
> sized version of the tour here)
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

I don't have time for the Tour just tell me if it has Stereo Bluetooth or if
you can use it with a Garmin Mobile 10.

Thanks

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 1, 1:42*pm, Oxford <ap...@pasture.com> wrote:
> > Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >
> > Enjoy!
>
> posted by arn on Tuesday July 01, 2008 01:34 PM
>
> Another iPhone FREEBIE
>
> A sharp individual spotted the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) client on
> the App Store during the Guided Tour posted today.
>
> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
> that time.

yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
10 Days! Things like Video Recording, MMS, TV Remotes, Garage Door
Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.

It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
finger, sweet...

In article <486ae513$0$11616$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
wrote:

> > Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of the
> > desktop OS market business by developing a product the majority of
> > computer users want?
> >
> Nope,only that it was preferred over anything anyone else had

i don't think anyone ever "preferred" microsoft products, it was more
"they had little choice".

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
8BBF09.21152501072008@dialup-4.167.1...on1.Level3.net:

> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 1, 1:42*pm, Oxford <ap...@pasture.com> wrote:
>> > Just posted, the new Tour of the 3G iPhone!
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>> >
>> > Enjoy!
>>
>> posted by arn on Tuesday July 01, 2008 01:34 PM
>>
>> Another iPhone FREEBIE
>>
>> A sharp individual spotted the AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) client on
>> the App Store during the Guided Tour posted today.
>>
>> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
>> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
>> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
>> that time.
>
> yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
> 10 Days! Things like Video Recording,

BNot on the 3g iPhone

> MMS,

Old technology

> TV Remotes, Garage Door
> Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.

You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe model.

>
> It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
> easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
> finger, sweet...

Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How dare
they?

>

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-AD6376.21170801072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> In article <486ae513$0$11616$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Hmm... are you next going to tell us that Microsoft earned 90+% of
>> > the desktop OS market business by developing a product the majority
>> > of computer users want?
>> >
>> Nope,only that it was preferred over anything anyone else had
>
> i don't think

And there is the most accurate statement to date.

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > nah, it will follow the ipod sales phenomenon that started in year 3,
> > it has 0.8& now, 40% in year 3, just watch...
>
> Oh, little stupid one. How can you compare a product in an emerging
> market with one in a very mature market?

the smartphone market is just emerging, all other cell phones will end
up like the sony walkman, just watch what apple will do to this poorly
performing market. all the competitors are extremely weak, apple will
shred them...

> > the 4,000 software apps
> > for the iphone will make it off the charts popular...
>
> Nope. 3000 of them will be calendar addons and SMS tools. Toys for the
> toy.

not from the lists i've seen... most are high end like medical imaging,
scientific apps, complex web apps, on and on.

> > and when did steve ever say: "changing the way wireless companies do
> > business," ???
>
> When the original iPhone was announced, along with the now extinct
> revenue sharing.

link please, otherwise you are lying...

> >> > and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones
> >> > with no contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile
> >> > people wanting to move up to an iPhone.
> >>
> >> Yeah- for $600 to start. I'm sure folks will be beating down the
> >> doors at that price. Not.
> >
> > plenty of people will pay $600, my 4GB iPhone is still worth exactly
> > what I paid for it a year later.
>
> Not according to Ebay.

further proof you are wrong:

http://snipurl.com/2sgv5 [4gb_iphone_search-completed_ebay_com]
>
> > Buying quality is the way to go when
> > buying electronics.
>
> So when are you going to start?

i've always done that, the question is when are you going to wise up?

In article <gq6dncVPFoB8dffVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

> > i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the Tour!
>
> Always been a fanboi - a blind, rabid one - the worst kind.
>
> And you have also been wrong.

nope!

> Remember your offhand dismissal of 3G? The stupid comments you made?
> Now that it's actually IN an iPhone - I guess you must be eating those
> words...

what? 3G still sucks the life out of your battery for no real gain since
most people will use WiFi 90% of the time. The exciting thing about july
11th is the App Store not the 3G phone.

> Then, your insipid wi-fi assertions. Months later, proven to be utterly
> wrong.

I was never prove wrong, WiFi is more open and free now more than ever,
just as I predicted.

> Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most part.
>
> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!

nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
matter what the brand.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-80B9B2.21275901072008@dialup-
4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > nah, it will follow the ipod sales phenomenon that started in year
>> > 3, it has 0.8& now, 40% in year 3, just watch...
>>
>> Oh, little stupid one. How can you compare a product in an emerging
>> market with one in a very mature market?
>
> the smartphone market is just emerging,

With over a dozen manufacturers and dozens of available smartphones
wordlwide, it is hardly an emerging technology

> all other cell phones will end
> up like the sony walkman,

they'll end up being the most popular electronic item of their time?

> just watch what apple will do to this poorly
> performing market.

We've already seen what Apple will do- become a second tier gimmick
phone manufacturer.

> all the competitors are extremely weak, apple will
> shred them...

Nokia and RIM say hello.

>
>> > the 4,000 software apps
>> > for the iphone will make it off the charts popular...
>>
>> Nope. 3000 of them will be calendar addons and SMS tools. Toys for
>> the toy.
>
> not from the lists i've seen... most are high end like medical
> imaging, scientific apps,

So nothing for the iPod crowd, then.That'll sure drive sales through the
roof.

> complex web apps,

Complex web apps? Like what- a refresh button?

> on and on.
>
>> > and when did steve ever say: "changing the way wireless companies
>> > do business," ???
>>
>> When the original iPhone was announced, along with the now extinct
>> revenue sharing.
>
> link please, otherwise you are lying...
>
>> >> > and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones
>> >> > with no contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile
>> >> > people wanting to move up to an iPhone.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah- for $600 to start. I'm sure folks will be beating down the
>> >> doors at that price. Not.
>> >
>> > plenty of people will pay $600, my 4GB iPhone is still worth
>> > exactly what I paid for it a year later.
>>
>> Not according to Ebay.
>
> further proof you are wrong:
>
> http://snipurl.com/2sgv5 [4gb_iphone_search-completed_ebay_com]
>>
>> > Buying quality is the way to go when
>> > buying electronics.
>>
>> So when are you going to start?
>
> i've always done that, the question is when are you going to wise up?

I did a long time ago- I gave up the Jobs koolaid about 20 years ago.

>

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-E015D5.21325001072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level
3.net:

> In article <gq6dncVPFoB8dffVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> > i've never been a fanboy, just a provider of good news... watch the
>> > Tour!
>>
>> Always been a fanboi - a blind, rabid one - the worst kind.
>>
>> And you have also been wrong.
>
> nope!
>
>> Remember your offhand dismissal of 3G? The stupid comments you made?
>> Now that it's actually IN an iPhone - I guess you must be eating
>> those words...
>
> what? 3G still sucks the life out of your battery for no real gain
> since most people will use WiFi 90% of the time. The exciting thing
> about july 11th is the App Store not the 3G phone.
>
>> Then, your insipid wi-fi assertions. Months later, proven to be
>> utterly wrong.
>
> I was never prove wrong, WiFi is more open and free now more than
> ever, just as I predicted.

Proof?

>
>> Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most
>> part.
>>
>> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!
>
> nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
> matter what the brand.
>

Now that was funny.

In article <Xns9ACED9DC160F2bob@216.196.97.136>,
The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> >> The AIM client will provide iChat compatible instant messaging for the
> >> iPhone and iPod Touch. AOL first demoed the app during the original
> >> iPhone SDK launch event, but have made no further announcements since
> >> that time.
> >
> > yep! basically, anything people still want will appear on the iPhone in
> > 10 Days! Things like Video Recording,
>
> BNot on the 3g iPhone

sure they will, both 2 & 3G iphones will have it.

> > MMS,
>
> Old technology

i agree, but the iphones will have it within the first few days for
those who want it.

> > TV Remotes, Garage Door
> > Openers, Bar Code Scanning are all coming to the iPhone.
>
> You forgot the Swiss Army Knife and taser included in the deluxe model.

no knives, but there are now iphone flash lights

> > It's going to freak a lot of the competitors out since they can't have
> > easy app installation like the iPhone has. 4,000 apps by the touch of a
> > finger, sweet...
>
> Yeah- they just build phones that need the Apple workarounds. How dare
> they?

??? not sure what you mean? apple just builds the solid foundation,
everyone else builds the rest...

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-E015D5.21325001072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <gq6dncVPFoB8dffVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
Your blather about RIM, Nokia and others. Still wrong for the most
part.
>>
>> Bottom line - FANBOY!!!
>
> nah, I'll never be a fanboy, just a proponent of "quality" products no
> matter what the brand.

Oxford, anybody who is as evangelical about a phone as you are and is
not employed by its manufacturer is, by definition, a fanboy. We are
all thrilled that you are a happy apple customer and loyal to their
product du jour, but haven't you gotten the message from these posts
that many disagree? And if we/they do disagree, why do you care? Again,
only a company employee or a fanboy would care - and even a company
employee would appreciate that it takes a wide variety of products to
serve any given market - ONLY a fanboy would be so arrogant as to think
that the whole world. Apple is a bit unique in thinking their way is
the only way but perhaps - just perhaps - that's why they maintain their
low single digit market share.

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
On 2008-07-01, Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote:

> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
> move up to an iPhone.

AT&T, then SBC and previously Ohio Bell/Ameritech, screwed me over on
DSL and dialtone a few years ago, requiring me to file a complaint
with the Ohio PUC before they'd refund $200 in charges on broken phone
and DSL service that they failed to fix for two months. Or at least
they tried. They did not succeed - the PUC saw to that.

As a result, Satan will be selling Sno-Cones in Hell before I spend another
penny on anything they offer.

So, I really don't care what they're selling. I'm not buying.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

"Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:slrng6l6kl.m1d.nospam@debian.dns2go.com...
> RBM wrote on [Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:23:48 -0400]:
>>
>> "Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
>> news:apony-E4389A.13010901072008@news.qwest.net...
>>> "BruceR" <bruceNO@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...and your reason for posting this to the T-Mobile (and other non-ATT)
>>>> groups is? I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but
>>>> those
>>>> of us who are happy with their non-ATT carriers just don't care about
>>>> the iphone.
>>>
>>> ah, within a few years, 60% of the population will have an iPhone so
>>> it's good to let people start learning about them now.
>>>
>>> and if you noticed, today AT&T said they will soon sell iPhones with no
>>> contract so that opens the door wide open for T-Mobile people wanting to
>>> move up to an iPhone.
>>>
>>> so sit back, watch the tour and enjoy a glimpse into your future!
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/tour/large.html
>>>
>>> (or for slower connections, you can fully download or choose a smaller
>>> sized version of the tour here)
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/
>>>
>>
>> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
>> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product
>> that
>
> Screw that, Apple would be tyrannical with a market share like that

I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude that
prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford and
company, they'd do much better

In article <486be82c$0$11629$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
wrote:

> >> Personally, I'd be happy as a clam if Apple earned 60% of the cell phone
> >> business, but, if they do, it'll be because they've developed a product
> >> that
> >
> > Screw that, Apple would be tyrannical with a market share like that
>
> I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude that
> prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
> attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford and
> company, they'd do much better

actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces such
fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the ipod
holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese smartphone
shoppers want an iPhone.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1

the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
competitors... isn't that interesting.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-F1AFBE.15323302072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <486be82c$0$11629$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com>
> wrote:

>>
>> I think you have it wrong. It's partially their tyrannical attitude
>> that
>> prevents them from gaining market share. Possibly, if they lost the
>> attitude, the tyranny, and the smarmy little piss ants like Oxford
>> and
>> company, they'd do much better
>
> actually, it's that tyrannical drive for perfection which produces
> such
> fine products. customers love perfect products and that's why the ipod
> holds 70% of the music player market, and why 57% of Japanese
> smartphone
> shoppers want an iPhone.
>
> http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...02/154237/?P=1
>
> the only people that don't like the zeal towards "perfection" are
> competitors... isn't that interesting.

Apple is FAR from perfection. They couldn't even repair an iPOD that was
returned to them 3 times under warranty because they couldn't understand
or wouldn't admit what the problem was (fairly simple, it wouldn't hold
a charge). That was my one and only horrific experience with Apple. I
wouldn't DARE try again. Believe it or not fanboy, other manufacturers
make damn good products that are easy to use and reliable and, if
customer service IS needed, they actually fix the problem right the
first time! Example, the Delete key fell off my Sony laptop's keyboard.
I brought into Sony's repair depot and they fitted it with a whole new
keyboard and had me on my way in under 30 minutes. Try that with an
Apple!