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#1 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:10 PM

I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
receiving / trying to get on a network?

Cheers

Simon.

PS the mobile is ‘expendable’!

#2 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:17 PM

Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon.
>
> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!

Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
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#3 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:26 PM

>
> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.

Still be able to dial 999 though.

Graham.

#4 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:28 PM

SteveH wrote:
> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>
> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.

How do I get one of these? Can I program an old SIM card somehow (how??)

Cheers

Simon.

#5 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:36 PM

SteveH wrote:
> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>
> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.

.... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
to find out that that the contract is cancelled...

I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
EM radiation...

Cheers

Simon.

#6 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:42 PM

Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
> > Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
> >> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
> >> receiving / trying to get on a network?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Simon.
> >>
> >> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
> >
> > Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>
> ... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
> to find out that that the contract is cancelled...
>
> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
> EM radiation...

Yes, and?

It's a totally over-hyped subject.
--
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Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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#7 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:49 PM

SteveH wrote:
> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SteveH wrote:
>>> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>>>> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>>>> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Simon.
>>>>
>>>> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>>> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>> ... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
>> to find out that that the contract is cancelled...
>>
>> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
>> EM radiation...
>
> Yes, and?
>
> It's a totally over-hyped subject.

Battery life....?

#8 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 09:54 PM

Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
> >> EM radiation...
> >
> > Yes, and?
> >
> > It's a totally over-hyped subject.
>
> Battery life....?

Several days, I'd have thought.
--
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Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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#9 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 10:07 PM

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:17:54 +0100, steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

>Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>
>Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
What if you were to set network access to manual and then select an
operator contrary to the SIM provider. That way there would be no
network access. Would that solve the problem?

Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
25/10/2006:Symantec charge exactly as much in GB pounds as they do
in US$ for the same Norton DOWNLOAD.
It's goodbye Norton - hello free AVG until they stop ripping us off.
Why should we be ripped off in the UK?

#10 (**permalink**) 10-27-2006, 11:00 PM

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:10:49 -0400, Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote this with
the utmost thought:

>I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>receiving / trying to get on a network?
>
>Cheers
>
>Simon.
>
>PS the mobile is ‘expendable’!

Sell the 'phone for as much as you can get for it and put the proceeds
towards a cheap game console for him. No need to worry, quite unnecessarily
about "radiation" and no chance of him making or receiving any calls.

#11 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 03:47 AM

<losttheplot@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:fc35k294qfjlvill0jamkbhub5fuf5aose@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:10:49 -0400, Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote this
> with
> the utmost thought:
>
>>I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>>some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>>receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Simon.
>>
>>PS the mobile is 'expendable'!

>
>use one of the free O2 PAYG sims and dont put any credit on it

#12 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 06:29 AM

"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1hnw1pr.oae7406yn5nuN%steve@italiancar.co.uk. ..
> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SteveH wrote:
>> > Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to
>> >> play
>> >> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>> >> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Simon.
>> >>
>> >> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>> >
>> > Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>>
>> ... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
>> to find out that that the contract is cancelled...
>>
>> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
>> EM radiation...
>
> Yes, and?
>
> It's a totally over-hyped subject.
> --
Not sure if I got this comment but this phone (as it does not support
"off-line mode", would always be able to dial emergency calls if on and
should not be given for small kids who don't understand this. OK if the guy
is old enough.

If given for a kid, at least one should take the phone antenna off,
preferably short circuit the receiver (receiver is sufficient and safer but
transmitter would be additional safety).

All emergency calls get recorded, they know the phone IMEI, can use some of
the SIM info (if SIM present) and may find you and you may even need to pay
for the trouble caused for the emergency authorities.

I would take it seriously!

#13 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 09:59 AM

"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is
>> >> no
>> >> EM radiation...
>> >
>> > Yes, and?
>> >
>> > It's a totally over-hyped subject.
>>
>> Battery life....?
>
> Several days, I'd have thought.

If it cannot locate a valid network, it *may* go into power save mode. More
likely it'll ramp up the signal (this doesn't bother me) to find a network,
running the battery down quicker (this does bother me).

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#14 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 10:20 AM

"Graham" <me@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>
> Still be able to dial 999 though.
>
> Graham.
>

not in the uk you cant. if the sim is off, thats it.

#15 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 10:29 AM

"Neil - Usenet" <usenet1@SPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham" <me@privacy.com> wrote in message
> news:ehttik$5je$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>>
>>> Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>>
>> Still be able to dial 999 though.
>>
>> Graham.
>>
>
> not in the uk you cant. if the sim is off, thats it.

I can dial 112 from all of my handsets, valid SIM or otherwise. Some are
American, some are UK specification.

--
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www.dervman.com

#16 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 10:31 AM

eagerb@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
> receiving / trying to get on a network?

Put a disconnected SIM in it.
--
Regards
Jon

#17 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 10:31 AM

me@privacy.com declared for all the world to hear...
>
> >
> > Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>
> Still be able to dial 999 though.

No, it won't. The call will not connect.
--
Regards
Jon

#18 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 10:32 AM

eagerb@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> ... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
> to find out that that the contract is cancelled...

When it powers on it will radiate for a few seconds, then that will be
it.

> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
> EM radiation...

Oh dear. Another one.
--
Regards
Jon

#19 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 11:04 AM

thedervman@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I can dial 112 from all of my handsets, valid SIM or otherwise. Some are
> American, some are UK specification.

You can dial but here in the UK the call will not connect.
--
Regards
Jon

#20 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 11:43 AM

"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> thedervman@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I can dial 112 from all of my handsets, valid SIM or otherwise. Some are
>> American, some are UK specification.
>
> You can dial but here in the UK the call will not connect.

I'd love to try, but, I don't want to get into trouble!

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#21 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 12:31 PM

"Anonymous" <anonymous@net.org> wrote in message
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> "SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1hnw1pr.oae7406yn5nuN%steve@italiancar.co.uk. ..
>> Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> SteveH wrote:
>>> > Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to
>>> >> play
>>> >> some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>>> >> receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >>
>>> >> Simon.
>>> >>
>>> >> PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>>> >
>>> > Use the SIM from a cancelled contract.
>>>
>>> ... but even if I did this surely the phone has to search for a network
>>> to find out that that the contract is cancelled...
>>>
>>> I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
>>> EM radiation...
>>
>> Yes, and?
>>
>> It's a totally over-hyped subject.
>> --
> Not sure if I got this comment but this phone (as it does not support
> "off-line mode", would always be able to dial emergency calls if on and
> should not be given for small kids who don't understand this. OK if the
> guy is old enough.
>
> If given for a kid, at least one should take the phone antenna off,
> preferably short circuit the receiver (receiver is sufficient and safer
> but transmitter would be additional safety).
>
> All emergency calls get recorded, they know the phone IMEI, can use some
> of the SIM info (if SIM present) and may find you and you may even need to
> pay for the trouble caused for the emergency authorities.
>
> I would take it seriously!
I wouldn't, in the UK none of the networks will allow a call to the
emergency services to connect without a valid SIM in the handset.
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.

#22 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 03:15 PM

"Anonymous" <anonymous@net.org> wrote in message
news:gNC0h.41605$_k2.756104@news2.nokia.com...
> "SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1hnw1pr.oae7406yn5nuN%steve@italiancar.co.uk. ..>
Not sure if I got this comment but this phone (as it does not support
> "off-line mode", would always be able to dial emergency calls if on and
> should not be given for small kids who don't understand this. OK if the
> guy is old enough.
>
> If given for a kid, at least one should take the phone antenna off,
> preferably short circuit the receiver (receiver is sufficient and safer
> but transmitter would be additional safety).
>
> All emergency calls get recorded, they know the phone IMEI, can use some
> of the SIM info (if SIM present) and may find you and you may even need to
> pay for the trouble caused for the emergency authorities.
>
> I would take it seriously!

If the phone has an external aerial, definitely don't take it off. Where's
the power that would normally be used through the aerial going to dissipate?
I'd just leave it - 999 and 112 wont connect.

#23 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 04:18 PM

thedervman@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I'd love to try, but, I don't want to get into trouble!

You won't get into trouble as the call will not connect.
--
Regards
Jon

#24 (**permalink**) 10-28-2006, 04:53 PM

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:04:05 +0100, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:

>thedervman@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> I can dial 112 from all of my handsets, valid SIM or otherwise. Some are
>> American, some are UK specification.
>
>You can dial but here in the UK the call will not connect.

I can confirm that.

I just tried a long-dead Voda sim in an unlocked phone and dialled 999 and
112 and both times got a message appear stating "Network rejected SOS call"
--

Regards

John [Essex, UK]
Remove the obvious spamtrap to reply

#25 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 11:28 AM

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:00:07 GMT, losttheplot@tesco.net wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:10:49 -0400, Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote this with
>the utmost thought:
>
>>I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>>some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>>receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Simon.
>>
>>PS the mobile is ‘expendable’!
>
>Sell the 'phone for as much as you can get for it and put the proceeds
>towards a cheap game console for him. No need to worry, quite unnecessarily
>about "radiation" and no chance of him making or receiving any calls.
>
and the ability to play some good games. Java sheesh!

#26 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 02:26 PM

"marvelus" <marvelus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:00:07 GMT, losttheplot@tesco.net wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:10:49 -0400, Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote this
>>with
>>the utmost thought:
>>
>>>I have an old (Nokia 6610i) mobile that I want to give to my son to play
>>>some Java games on. Is there a way to stop the phone transmitting /
>>>receiving / trying to get on a network?
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Simon.
>>>
>>>PS the mobile is 'expendable'!
>>
>>Sell the 'phone for as much as you can get for it and put the proceeds
>>towards a cheap game console for him. No need to worry, quite
>>unnecessarily
>>about "radiation" and no chance of him making or receiving any calls.
>>
> and the ability to play some good games. Java sheesh!

I'd let the OP decide if this is sufficient for his/her kid, or if the kid
should get a playstation or something else.

Taking into account that the local networks would not support emergency
calls for a phone without a valid SIM, it would be quite OK to use it
without a SIM or with an invalid SIM (an invalid SIM would cause some
signalling towards the network at each switch on, but this would be
reasonable).

Note that if you disable the receiver, the phone would never transmit
anything. It will only transmit if it finds appropriate network info but
could not do this if the receiver was disabled. However, the phone would
consume less power if it can find a network and stay tuned on that, even if
was there only for emergency calls (the phone does not know that the local
network does not accept emergency calls and would still try to stay tuned on
a cell where an emergency call attempt was possible).

#27 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 07:29 PM

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:36:43 -0400, Simon <eagerb@gmail.com> wrote:

>I want to be able to 'kill' the connectivity of the phone so there is no
> EM radiation..

Why? Do you have a TV set? A microwave oven? Both put out more EM
radiation than a mobile phone ever does.

--

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#28 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 07:29 PM

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:59:27 +0100, "DervMan" <thedervman@gmail.com>
wrote:

>If it cannot locate a valid network, it *may* go into power save mode. More
>likely it'll ramp up the signal (this doesn't bother me) to find a network,
>running the battery down quicker (this does bother me).

The handset will listen for the available networks. When it finds the
home network for its sim card, it will try to register. It will be
refused, and it will then give up. It won't retry at higher power: it
knows when it is not welcome.

If it does not find the home network, it will try the available
networks in turn, trying to roam. Once rejected by each, it will
remember than and not try that network again. It's almost certain to
have done that months or years earlier, so it will know not to even
try.

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#29 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 07:29 PM

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:29:13 +0100, "DervMan" <thedervman@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I can dial 112 from all of my handsets, valid SIM or otherwise. Some are
>American, some are UK specification.

Indeed you could, but without a valid, active sim, the call would not
connect.

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#30 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 07:29 PM

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 06:29:32 GMT, "Anonymous" <anonymous@net.org>
wrote:

>Not sure if I got this comment but this phone (as it does not support
>"off-line mode", would always be able to dial emergency calls if on

No, it would not. No UK network would accept an emergency call.

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