"Ron" <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> ....... which is totally irrelavant to this
> Newsgroup
Exactly!!!!
Now.... Tell Oxford (and his sock puppets) the exact same thing.
Be VERY clear to him. Knock off the iPhone crap in the other groups.
We don't give a damn about the iPhone.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
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> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> > Yes, I do understand that you might not want to measure up to that
>> > level, but what they have to say is important. And spells the future of
>> > all other technical groups within the USENET hierarchy.
>>
>> Oxford - Stick to one name - you moron.
>> This sock puppet shit is indicative of what an ass you continue to be.
>
> I never use sock puppets, i only use Pen Names, get used to it.
>
>> I have no idea why you do it, but it really makes you worse than you
>> already
>> do.
>
> Why? Pay attention to the valuable content I offer, ignore the Pen Name
> since that matters the least within the packet of info provided.
>
>> Not quite as much as the actual content of your fanatical fanboy
>> fantasies.
>>
>> But certainly the sock puppets - along with the completely wacky shit you
>> post
>> show all who have to endure it - that you have a very tenuous grip on
>> reality.
>>
>> There are meds that can probably treat your disorder.... get help.
>
> Meds? I'm quite rational and post topical information. Try it sometime.
"Pen names" - my ass!!
They are SOCK PUPPETS - plain and simple. You can call then what
you want - it changes nothing. Just like your iPhone drivel. Why do you
feel you have to use multiple names? This is certainly schizoid or some
other mental disorder - there is no excuse for this.
The shit you post has NO value whatsoever. It is supposition, it is pure
fanatical fanboy fantasy and it is highly delusional. The fact that you feel
you have to pollute other groups with your fiction is indicative of just
what
a huge asshole you are.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
David W Studeman <eat_your_own_spam@hormel.com> wrote:
> Apple really didn't invent anything.
well, they were the first to have a full web browser in a cell phone,
first to have multi-touch (similar of how people used computers before
apple made the mouse popular - it's the same level of advancement) first
to make a thin, huge screen, light device that has incredible battery
life. first one to put an iPod in a smartphone. first to figure out
smooth syncing on a phone to a computer, first to make typing on a flat
screen seem natural and accurate. first to use a "single button" on a
smartphone device making it far easier to use. first to tie together all
applications in a consistent way. but yes, other than that, they
invented nothing.
> Just marketed ideas, some dating back
> to the late 60's.
apple hasn't done a lot of marketing with the iphone, mostly the
"news/hype" comes from how great the iphone actually is. they hit a home
run by doing the hard work up front, then the product sells itself. no
other company can do that since they don't have the deep technical
resources like apple has.
yes, i agree many of these "ideas" have been around for decades, but
apple has a knack of making them into a usable "product"... nobody else
seems to be able to do that.
> Your real browser as it were, is based on KHTML which
> belongs to the KDE community. I couldn't consider a browser, regardless of
> rendering engine, being viewed on a screen only a tiny fraction the area of
> a typical 19" monitor, "real" browsing.
ah, iPhone's Safari while based on KHTML is a far cry from what is
available in the Linux world, they don't have WebKit, they don't have
high resolution screens, they don't have core graphics, etc. The iPhone
was the first to do a Web Browser correctly on a phone because of
Apple's in house talents, nothing relating to KHTML.
Multi-Touch is a marvel of modern man, sure it's a HUGE screen for a
smartphone, but Apple uses Multi-Touch in a way that with just your
fingers you can see, work, read an entire page with ease. No other cell
company will be allowed to do this for 17 years. So Apple basically owns
the browsing world on small screens for all that time.
> As far as wifi, the reason it typically draws less current is because most
> of them put out less than 100mw and you need to be within 500 feet of a
> Latte as it were for it to do any good. Cellular devices typically can
> output ten times that at 850mhz and twenty times that on 1.9ghz. There is
> no free lunch here. Power dissipation in watts is power dissipation and it
> does not matter how you arrived at a specific power dissipation. Of course
> if you are closer to a cell tower, the tower controls the output of your
> device and throttles it back. Translation: In a weaker area, you will use
> more battery power. With WiFi, it won't use much power because it doesn't
> have it to use in the first place. I do like the WiFi and the SIP phone
> feature of my chosen Multimedia Cellular device though so I'm not totally
> bashing WiFi.
Yes, but the density of WiFi is increasing far faster than Cell Towers,
so it's easy to see that the Cell World is obsolete in 10 years.
Companies like FON are totally making Cell Companies obsolete.
> Seeing as how the rate of change is quite high these days, was 70% a year
> back in the 70's and I'm sure it is mind numbingly fast these days, there
> is no accurate way to predict what will be in vogue for the next decade or
> more and nothing that is used in the iPhone is earth shattering, it is a
> collection of existing technology with a marketing trademark slapped on it
> and a HUGE advertising budget.
We haven't seen much iphone marketing coming from Apple, sure some TV
commercials, but most of the "advertising" comes from people that own
them. It's a huge leap for everyone in the world, once people use them
they become a free advertising machine... just how it should be. Apple
simply builds the best smartphone on the market by far, the rest is free.
> To me, if it had a holographic virtual
> screen and virtual keyboard as well as virtual touch on the virtual screen
> in thin air rather than on the physical device itself, THEN it would be
> revolutionary. The problem with all these small multimedia gadjets is that
> you are limited to real estate a third the size of a paperback book, sorry
> but this won't do.
apple has been working on holography for decades so you'll see it when
it's ready. but apple was the first to create a usable virtual keyboard,
use gestures to move around, etc. yes, yes... the fantasy of air touch
is fine, or pure voice recogontion even better. but those aren't ready
for prime time, the only thing we do know is apple will be the first to
bring it to market on a mass scale.
the iPhone screen is H U G E - biggest of any smartphone to size ratio,
so while it appears you haven't yet touched an iPhone, you will soon and
then understand why the world is all going to the iPhone as the primary
pocket sized communication device.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
> >when you get a chance to touch, see, use one you'll understand what all
> >the excitement is about.
>
> I touched, I saw, I used (briefly), but I didn't see what the
> excitement was about. I'm thinking you have to have a pre-existing
> affection for Apple products in order to ignore the fact that there's
> not much of substance here.
nah, you need to take it home, sync it with your machine use it for a
few days before you say "damn! this thing is amazing". there is more
depth to the product than briefly touching / using it in a store.
get it home, then you'll begin to understand what all the excitement is
about.
and no, i could careless about apple as a company. i just like great
products, perhaps you don't?
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
In article <jasin-C96836.11081204112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote:
> David W Studeman <eat_your_own_spam@hormel.com> wrote:
>
> > Apple really didn't invent anything.
>
> well, they were the first to have a full web browser in a cell phone,
In what sense are the browsers in Nokia communicators--mine is the
9300--not full? For that matter, I'm pretty sure the E90 was out before
the iPhone. There are lots of things wrong with it--I bought one and
then sent it back--but it seems to have both a full browser and a
suitable screen.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
David Friedman <ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
> > well, they were the first to have a full web browser in a cell phone,
>
> In what sense are the browsers in Nokia communicators--mine is the
> 9300--not full? For that matter, I'm pretty sure the E90 was out before
> the iPhone. There are lots of things wrong with it--I bought one and
> then sent it back--but it seems to have both a full browser and a
> suitable screen.
it's a baby browser, it isn't showing you EXACTLY what you seen on a
real browser on a Mac or PC.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
> >> I touched, I saw, I used (briefly), but I didn't see what the
> >> excitement was about. I'm thinking you have to have a pre-existing
> >> affection for Apple products in order to ignore the fact that there's
> >> not much of substance here.
> >
> >nah, you need to take it home, sync it with your machine
>
> Sync it with my machine? I'm not sure what that refers to.
yes, the iPhone is a very sophisticated device. every time you connect
it to your PC or Mac it auto syncs all your contacts, music, photos,
podcasts, videos, bookmarks, calendars, on and on. jump ahead to about
3:16 into this link and watch the magic.
it's a wonderful feature and saves you the stress if you lose your
iphone, you just connect up another one and you are back in "sync"
within minutes.
> >use it for a
> >few days before you say "damn! this thing is amazing". there is more
> >depth to the product than briefly touching / using it in a store.
>
> Perhaps, but I was pretty underwhelmed so I don't think I'll be going
> back for a second look.
you will over time, it's still in version 1, and only the high end is
available at this time, but the $199, $99 models will be coming so if
you can't afford this high end of a phone, your chance will come.
> >get it home, then you'll begin to understand what all the excitement is
> >about.
> >
> >and no, i could careless about apple as a company. i just like great
> >products, perhaps you don't?
>
> I like great products and I think everyone does to some extent, but I
> think this particular product is average in a sea of competing
> products. It has some good points and some bad points, but nothing too
> far to either extreme.
Well, there is no competing product to the iPhone at this point. Most in
the same category are still using physical keyboards and styluses, so it
will be awhile before they even catch up with the iPhone in this one
area. Then they still have to get better resolution, better battery
life, seamless syncing, the ipod of course, on and on.
You'll get one in the next couple years, so just hang tight!
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, BG wrote:
> I'm amazed that so many take this oxford boy seriously! It must be an
> american troll, since almost anyone in Europe can see that the iphone is
> appr four years behind the models we are using today.
Same story in Japan.
> iphone is a teenagers toy... nice looking but very little of a phone...
As the kids say, "well, duh!"
-- Mark --
http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UVhNgnnVf8
> >
> >it's a wonderful feature and saves you the stress if you lose your
> >iphone, you just connect up another one and you are back in "sync"
> >within minutes.
>
> Ouch, that doesn't sound good to me at all. Hopefully the 'auto' part
> of auto-sync can be disabled and the other parts can be individually
> selected.
of course! it gives you plenty of control over those aspects, watch the
video about 3:15 minutes in.
even if you auto sync, it still comes up with a nice selection box
letting you choose what info is most current, that way it's easy to keep
your machine and phone in perfect sync.
> >You'll get one in the next couple years, so just hang tight!
>
> Very doubtful, but thanks for the unbridled optimism! <g> You never
> know, I guess. I could be back here in a year or three with a very
> different opinion.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> > then how about someone posting the info?
> >
> > why is it so hard for everyone, including you?
>
> It's not hard.
>
> Others have.
Not on USENET, not in any published books, not on the internet, not by
word of mouth. Only you know the connection.
> Me, I'm waiting for you to show us PROOF of what an expert you are in
> the history of Apple and personal computing, like you claim.
The burden of proof is on you. You claimed she had some kind of
"crucial" role with steve/apple. You can't provide that information
since it doesn't exist.
I've got you cornered and since nobody else can come up with any
connection to her and Apple, it's up to you.
We'll be laughing until you provide it, then probably STILL be laughing
when you try and claim some kind of flimsy connection.
I do feel sorry for you Elmo, but with my expertise in the Apple history
realm, I have you caught in a lie. Not a good place to be, but you like
to be there for some reason.
> "Pen names" - my ass!!
> They are SOCK PUPPETS - plain and simple. You can call then what
> you want - it changes nothing. Just like your iPhone drivel. Why do you
> feel you have to use multiple names? This is certainly schizoid or some
> other mental disorder - there is no excuse for this.
>
> The shit you post has NO value whatsoever. It is supposition, it is pure
> fanatical fanboy fantasy and it is highly delusional. The fact that you feel
> you have to pollute other groups with your fiction is indicative of just
> what
> a huge asshole you are.
i'm just the messenger, the pen name shouldn't matter to anyone. the
info is what is so valuable to everyone with a cell phone.
someday you too will have an iphone and then you'll understand why
people want to know more about it.
In article <PIGdnZRJYoK3tbDanZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
> "Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
> news:im-955C61.15080103112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> >
> > You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.
> >
> > You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
> > other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
> > Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.
> >
> > So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.
> >
>
> Au contraire, I'm completely rational.
> Just irritated that I have to continue to endure your wacky fanboy
> fantasies.
> The fact that you consider your inane drivel rational, is the real joke
> here.
>
> My CHOICE is to wonder why you see the need to use sock puppets.
> And make yourself look foolish - (more so than you have already)
>
> My CHOICE is to KNOW, beyond ANY doubt that you are a troll, a moron
> and that you suffer from delusions of some kind. Thinking you know all
> when in fact it has been demonstrated, time and time again - you know
> zip, nada, zilch.
>
> Oh, BTW, your infallible Apple - ISN'T - Leopard Has More Holes than Spots
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895...LBOE110307STR1
>
> Leopard's firewall is a mess, say researchers, shutting off by default and
> allowing connections even under "block all."
>
> Security has slipped backwards on the evolutionary ladder in Apple's latest
> Mac OS X release, security researchers say, with Leopard's firewall having
> more holes than its namesake cat has spots.
>
> "The short answer is the Leopard firewall is ... ugly and a step backwards
> from 10.4," said Rich Mogull, an independent security consultant .
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Now I know, for sure, that you are only joking.
"none" <a@bc.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:a-5E79CE.08293304112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
> "BG" <borje@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> iphone is a teenagers toy... nice looking but very little of a phone...
>
> it's currently the world's most powerful smartphone, you'll be shocked
> at how well designed it is. europe and asia is around a decade behind in
> features, size and usability.
>
> europe will all a buzz about from next week on. both the UK and Germany
> are going to start having them next week.
>
> Get Ready for iPhone
> iPhone arrives on June 29. iPhone features an amazing mobile phone, is
> the best iPod we've ever created, and puts the Internet in your pocket
> with desktop-class email, web browsing, searching, and maps. And iPhone
> makes it all easy to use with its revolutionary multi-touch user
> interface. iPhone syncs with your PC or Mac just like an iPod, so
> organizing your content now will help you start calling, texting,
> emailing, surfing, listening, and watching even faster when you get your
> iPhone. Here are a few suggestions to help you get ready:
>
> Contacts
> Making a call with iPhone is as simple as tapping a name. You won't need
> to re-enter all your contacts because iPhone syncs with the address book
> you already use on your computer
> Outlook or Outlook Express on a PC. If you keep your contacts on the web
> using Yahoo! Address Book, iPhone can sync with them, too. To get ready
> for iPhone, organize your contacts in one of these applications and make
> sure they're up to date with the latest phone numbers and email
> addresses. If you don't have contacts on your computer, don't worry. You
> can still enter them directly into iPhone.
>
> Calendar
> Using its built-in calendar, iPhone lets you check your appointments
> with the flick of a finger. iPhone uses iTunes to sync with the calendar
> application you already use on your computer > Mac, or Outlook on a PC >
> don't already use one of these applications to manage your appointments,
> now is a great time to start, so you'll be ready to sync when your
> iPhone arrives. If you choose not to use a calendar program, that's OK.
> You'll be able to enter appointments directly into the iPhone calendar.
>
> Email
> iPhone is the first phone to come with a desktop-class email
> application. So now your phone can display rich HTML email with graphics
> and photos alongside the text. iPhone will even fetch your latest email
> every time you open the application and automatically retrieve your
> email on a set schedule, just like a computer does. iPhone works with
> the most popular email systems > .Mac Mail. If you're not already using
> one of these services, now would
> be a great time to get an account. iTunes will make email setup on
> iPhone a breeze by automatically syncing the settings from email
> accounts stored in Mail on a Mac or Outlook on a PC. Don't worry if
> you're not on one of these email services; iPhone also works with almost
> any industry-standard POP3 and IMAP email system.
>
> Photos
> iPhone has a 2-megapixel camera and a gorgeous 3.5-inch display, so it's
> a great way to enjoy and show off your digital photos. iPhone uses
> iTunes to sync your photos from iPhoto on a Mac or Adobe Photoshop
> Elements, Adobe Photoshop Album, or any picture folder on a PC. You can
> carry thousands of photos on iPhone, but you can start by creating an
> album or two with 50 to 100 of your favorite photos, so that when you
> first sync your iPhone, you'll be ready to quickly show off some of your
> best shots.
>
> Music and Video
> iPhone is the best iPod ever. Its beautiful, 3.5-inch widescreen display
> allows you to easily enjoy the music, TV shows, and movies you have in
> your iTunes library. If you already use iTunes, you can start getting
> ready for iPhone by creating a playlist of a few hundred of your
> favorite songs. If you don't have iTunes, now is a good time to download
> it and start a music and video library. That way, when you sync your
> iPhone with iTunes, you'll be able to take your favorite music, as well
> as a few of your TV shows and movies, with you wherever you go.
>
> iTunes Account
> To set up your iPhone, you'll need an account with Apple's iTunes Store.
> If you already have an iTunes account, make sure you know your account
> name and password. If you don't have an account, you should set one up
> now to save time later. To set up an account, launch iTunes, select the
> iTunes Store, and click the Sign In button in the upper right corner of
> iTunes. Sign in and you're ready to go.
>
> http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
>
> http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
>
> France is later in the month. Orange won the iphone account there.
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ron wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>> Newsgroup
>
>
>Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>the iBrick crap they drop here.
Ness Net is the troll.
Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.
Ron wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ron wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>>> Newsgroup
>>
>> Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>> the iBrick crap they drop here.
>
> Ness Net is the troll.
>
> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.
Where is "here"? Its the silly crossposting from the fanbois that think
it is relevant to cross post to alt.cellular.verizon and
alt.cellular.spritpcs both of which are carriers who use CDMA that
confuses things.
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:59:55 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>Ron wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ron wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>>>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>>>> Newsgroup
>>>
>>> Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>>> the iBrick crap they drop here.
>>
>> Ness Net is the troll.
>>
>> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
>> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.
>
>Where is "here"? Its the silly crossposting from the fanbois that think
>it is relevant to cross post to alt.cellular.verizon and
>alt.cellular.spritpcs both of which are carriers who use CDMA that
>confuses things.
Iphone is relevant to any Cell phone discussion.
Links to articles by legitimate Tech writers is relevant.
One man's opinion about Leopard is not relevant in cell phone
discussion.
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.sprintpcs.]
> Ness Net is the troll.
>
> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.
He's an alt.cellular.verizon regular, not an alt.cellular.attws regular, and
is most likely complaining about the posts in a.c.v as I have. While no one
with any common sense would argue that iPhone discussions areofftopic in the
at&t newsgroup, they're utterly and completely offtopic in the Verizon
newsgroup.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-470A02.17583204112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> "Pen names" - my ass!!
>> They are SOCK PUPPETS - plain and simple. You can call then what
>> you want - it changes nothing. Just like your iPhone drivel. Why do you
>> feel you have to use multiple names? This is certainly schizoid or some
>> other mental disorder - there is no excuse for this.
>>
>> The shit you post has NO value whatsoever. It is supposition, it is pure
>> fanatical fanboy fantasy and it is highly delusional. The fact that you
>> feel
>> you have to pollute other groups with your fiction is indicative of just
>> what
>> a huge asshole you are.
>
> i'm just the messenger, the pen name shouldn't matter to anyone. the
> info is what is so valuable to everyone with a cell phone.
>
> someday you too will have an iphone and then you'll understand why
> people want to know more about it.
>
> check out this link for further information:
>
> http://www.iphone.com/
But.... sock puppets are NOT the way someone with ANY fraction of a brain
communicates. It only shows you to be a complete asshole - nothing more.
This iPhone shit has NO VALUE to me or most all of us on a CDMA group.
You post on alt.cell.verizon NOT to inform - you post to troll - period.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:10:47 -0600, Gene Jones wrote:
> Tony <tony@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>>> No user-replaceable battery
>>>
>>> Incorrect, it's $20 for a user to replace the iPhone battery
>>
>> Doesn't it require the user to send the phone in to Apple, and then pay
>> for a rental iPhone if they cannot be without one for more than 10 days?
>> or has Apple changed their stance on it? I did say 'user-replaceable'...
>
> why would you do that? the iphone is just like the ipod, it's $20 for a
> new battery after 3-5 years, there are tons of video instructions on how
> to do it.
People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't keep
them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then that
they will just "have to have".
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't keep
> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then that
> they will just "have to have".
sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-414F2A.19144605112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>
>> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't
>> keep
>> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then
>> that
>> they will just "have to have".
>
> sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
Untill it's droped.
>
> plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>
> sweet!
>
> -
How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
maybe two months. Oh, Oxford wrote this, that's why.
> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> > smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> > active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
>
> Untill it's dropped.
nah, it can be dropped on concrete and won't break, that's been
demonstrated over and over. it's a little tank.
> > plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> > developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
> >
> > sweet!
> >
> > -
>
> How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
> maybe two months.
just look at apple products in general, they are extremely well
engineered and last for decades, the iphone will be no different.
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"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
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> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a
>> > regular
>> > smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
>> > active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
>>
>> Untill it's dropped.
>
> nah, it can be dropped on concrete and won't break, that's been
> demonstrated over and over. it's a little tank.
>
>> > plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd
>> > party
>> > developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>> >
>> > sweet!
>> >
>> > -
>>
>> How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been
>> out
>> maybe two months.
>
> just look at apple products in general, they are extremely well
> engineered and last for decades, the iphone will be no different.
"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
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> CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>
>> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't
>> keep
>> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then
>> that
>> they will just "have to have".
>
> sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
Until it's dropped.
>
> plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>
> sweet!
>
> -
How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
maybe two months. Oh, Oxford wrote this, that's why.
Oxturd, Why not quote the message and not cut and past to your likening ?
Your so full of shit!
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> > smartphone
>
> How...how can you make that kind of assessment with a product that has
> only been out less than three months to products that have been out for
> year?
simple, look at apple's past products, they all last 3x years longer
than competitors, the iphone will be no different.
> Since the iPhone has been out less than three months, by your logic a
> regular smartphone only lasts one month.
no, but since regular smartphones are locked into the hardware design
they ship with the iphone excels since it's mainly a software vessel
that can be updated continuously. no other phone can do this.
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Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in
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> "Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>>
>> Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone
>> itself, but Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have
>> long had *many* iPod-like media players to choose from.
>
> ipod "like" but not an ipod, so that's a huge difference for the user.
No it's not. At least noit for users with more than a third grade
education.
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Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote in
news:jasin-4DDF99.21230006112007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a
>> > regular smartphone
>>
>> How...how can you make that kind of assessment with a product that
>> has only been out less than three months to products that have been
>> out for year?
>
> simple, look at apple's past products, they all last 3x years longer
> than competitors, the iphone will be no different.
>
>> Since the iPhone has been out less than three months, by your logic a
>> regular smartphone only lasts one month.
>
> no, but since regular smartphones are locked into the hardware design
> they ship with the iphone excels since it's mainly a software vessel
> that can be updated continuously. no other phone can do this.
>
Actually, most phones can do it.
You're not real knowledgeable about the subject, are you?
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