iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
I just bumped into Steve Jobs. He said you are his #1 fanboi and he is
really close to inviting you over so you could have his baby. So your
dream may come true.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
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> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
A magazine for liberal idiots, run by liberal idiots.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
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"LHA" <nobody@nobody1.com1> wrote:
> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-6DD99A.14373101112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> > iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> A magazine for liberal idiots, run by liberal idiots.
wow. there aren't many who can demonstrate ignorance of the meanings
of the words "liberal" and "idiots" in a single phrase.
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Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> How much did Apple pay for that privilege?
Ah, whatever it cost to develop the iPhone would be the answer.
It's quite shocking how advanced it is, no smartphone/cell phone will
get close to it for at least 10 years. A true human achievement on the
level of the Microwave and TV.
Do you have one yet?
-----
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
>Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
>This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
>been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
>original phone back in 1876.
More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
something old, not a way to do something new.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-B99E2A.17224001112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> original phone back in 1876.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1..._Telephone.jpg
>
> The iPhone changes EVERYTHING we knew before.
>
> Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
>
>
> 1. The iPhone design
>
> Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
> an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
> technology is that good design is actually as important as good
> technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
> unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
> attractive while doing it.
>
> An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
> mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
> zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
> like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
> gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
> really is depth.
>
> 2. It's touchy-feely
>
> Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
> (Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
> snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
> do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
> graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
> in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
> that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
> with their hands > stretching and shrinking photographs with their
> fingers.
>
> This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
> relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
> Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
> propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
> Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
> is the new seeing.
>
> 3. It will make other phones better
>
> Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
> dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
> negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
> reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
> hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
> gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
> specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
> the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
>
> 4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
>
> When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
> bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
> system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
> glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
> gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
> that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
> idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
> happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
> gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
> need them.
>
> And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
> month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
> iPhone, so that you > able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all
> that black blank
> space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
> pretty, useful icons.
>
> 5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
>
> The iPhone has sold enough units > time > and its infinitely updatable,
> all-software interface, the iPhone is
> built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
> interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
> whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
> something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
> have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...678581,00.html
>
>> Did you take your meds at 5?
>
> Laughing at you is the best medicine I've found
>
> -
You must like seeing yourself repeat the same old **** over and over again.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> original phone back in 1876.
Apple squandered a HUGE opportunity with he Iphone. By agreeing to
become a slave to wireless networks, the feature set of the iphone will
forever be reduced to protect wireless network revenus. So Wi-Fi will
forever be crippled to prevent owners from bypassing expensive network
services.
Has Apple produced a totally network independant/unlocked device that
people bought from Apple, Apple could have loaded the puppy with all the
features that make that phone totally remarkable. And as long as the
phone adheres to GSM standards, networks couldn't really block it.
Yes, an unlocked Iphone would cost much more, but then again, it would
be YOUR phone that you can keep when you change networks, and to me,
when youhave an item that is far more akin to a computer with your own
data on it, you don't want it to be tied to some distant company who can
decide what features you can and cannot use on your unit.
And had Apple been succesful at selling directly to consumer an unlocked
phone that had far more features than the crippled phones from Nokia etc
sold by the networks, then the other phone manufacturers might have had
the motivation to also start producing fully-featured phones that are
not hindered by the mobile network requests to cripple their functionality.
This was a huge loss of opportunity for Apple to reshape the wireless
industry in north america. At least France and oen middle eastern
country have forced Apple to sell their units unlocked, but that doesn't
mean that Apple will load those units with features that mobile
operators don't want to see on mobile phones.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
> >iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
> >
> >This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> >been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> >original phone back in 1876.
>
> More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
> direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
> something old, not a way to do something new.
nobody has done multi-touch before, nobody has done a real browser in a
cell phone before, nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
workable visual voice mail another first. super slim size, incredible
battery life, airport mode, international mode, on and on...
but thanks for trying jack!
you'll get an iphone at some point, so don't worry!
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> Ah, whatever it cost to develop the iPhone would be the answer.
>
> It's quite shocking how advanced it is, no smartphone/cell phone will
> get close to it for at least 10 years.
What a load of ****, that is just a stupid claim to make, even IF it was
that advanced today there is no way it would take 10 years for anyone to
come to it!
> A true human achievement on the level of the Microwave and TV.
The microwave oven was invented by a Canadian during World War 2, he
came up with the idea after walking in front of a radar installation and
found that it had melted a bar of chocolate in is his pocket. So don't
go comparing your crappy iphone with an invention from a WW2 veteran.
> Do you have one yet?
NO, and I don't plan to get one. Not even when they are eventually
released here in Australia!
> -----
>
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
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their replies when you reply to them?!?!
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Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote in message
news:8be9f$472a77e9$cef8887a$2666@TEKSAVVY.COM...
> Oxford wrote:
>> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine This goes without
>> question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever been introduced to the
>> phone market probably since the rotary dial or original phone back in
>> 1876.
>
> Apple squandered a HUGE opportunity with he Iphone. By agreeing to become
> a slave to wireless networks, the feature set of the iphone will forever
> be reduced to protect wireless network revenus. So Wi-Fi will forever be
> crippled to prevent owners from bypassing expensive network services.
>
What expensive network services would that be? You consider voice service
to be expensive? Especially when most carriers often unlimited nights and
weekends and free calls to other subscribers in the same network.
> Has Apple produced a totally network independant/unlocked device that
> people bought from Apple, Apple could have loaded the puppy with all the
> features that make that phone totally remarkable. And as long as the phone
> adheres to GSM standards, networks couldn't really block it.
It might be kind of hard to get a GSM phone to work on Sprint and
Verizon.....
>
> Yes, an unlocked Iphone would cost much more, but then again, it would be
> YOUR phone that you can keep when you change networks, and to me, when
> youhave an item that is far more akin to a computer with your own data on
> it, you don't want it to be tied to some distant company who can decide
> what features you can and cannot use on your unit.
What percentage of phones are actually sold without a contract discount in
the US?
>
> And had Apple been succesful at selling directly to consumer an unlocked
> phone that had far more features than the crippled phones from Nokia etc
> sold by the networks, then the other phone manufacturers might have had
> the motivation to also start producing fully-featured phones that are not
> hindered by the mobile network requests to cripple their functionality.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> > been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> > original phone back in 1876.
>
> Apple squandered a HUGE opportunity with he Iphone. By agreeing to
> become a slave to wireless networks, the feature set of the iphone will
> forever be reduced to protect wireless network revenus. So Wi-Fi will
> forever be crippled to prevent owners from bypassing expensive network
> services.
there is no such thing as an IPhone. it's iPhone, NOT IPhone, learn how
to capitalize it first of all...
and i don't think you are understanding what is going on here. the
iPhone could very well be the first mass scale WiFi phone. It's just a
software update away from this... and Steve met with FON a week ago, so
you need to keep abreast of what is in the works.
If Apple does free worldwide WiFi the games is basically over for most
cell carriers. WiFi is fast growing and cheap to free... so if Steve's
meeting with this guy turns into the future, all cell companies will
fade away.
> Has Apple produced a totally network independant/unlocked device that
> people bought from Apple, Apple could have loaded the puppy with all the
> features that make that phone totally remarkable. And as long as the
> phone adheres to GSM standards, networks couldn't really block it.
Nah, they still have total flexibility. They have the option to buy part
of the wireless spectrum, or they can go full WiFi, or WiMax... they can
also cut deals with other cell carriers, etc. There are no blocks on the
iPhone which gives Apple plenty of leverage.
> Yes, an unlocked Iphone would cost much more, but then again, it would
> be YOUR phone that you can keep when you change networks, and to me,
> when youhave an item that is far more akin to a computer with your own
> data on it, you don't want it to be tied to some distant company who can
> decide what features you can and cannot use on your unit.
Yes, and nothing is preventing Apple from doing that. Apple holds all
the cards now, so the cell carriers pretty much have to wait to see what
Apple does next so they can position themselves to survive the next
decade.
> And had Apple been succesful at selling directly to consumer an unlocked
> phone that had far more features than the crippled phones from Nokia etc
> sold by the networks, then the other phone manufacturers might have had
> the motivation to also start producing fully-featured phones that are
> not hindered by the mobile network requests to cripple their functionality.
We'll see, the iPhone isn't locked it's just in a formulation stage.
Orange and TMobile are going to sell fully unlocked iPhones, so we'll
see.
> This was a huge loss of opportunity for Apple to reshape the wireless
> industry in north america. At least France and oen middle eastern
> country have forced Apple to sell their units unlocked, but that doesn't
> mean that Apple will load those units with features that mobile
> operators don't want to see on mobile phones.
The iPhone has only been out for 150 days and it's already shook the
cell industry to its knees, so best to hang tight and see how Apple
guides the cell industry from here on out.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
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On 2007-11-02, Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> nobody seems to know... except you. how strange.
I assume the influence on Steve had something to do with Smalltalk. Wasn't
the Lisa's programming language based on Smalltalk? (grasping at straws here)
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Actually, nothing strange - other than the foolish fanatic fanboy
who can't answer a direct question. And, that is typical for Oxford
(or whatever name de' jour he's using)
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
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> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> nobody seems to know... except you. how strange.
>
> ---
>
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> and i don't think you are understanding what is going on here. the
> iPhone could very well be the first mass scale WiFi phone.
> If Apple does free worldwide WiFi the games is basically over for most
> cell carriers.
Have you taken a look at what the mobile carriers are looking at ? I
don't recall the protocol name right now, but it is essentially:
When you phone is outside of GSM (or that CDMA thing) coverage, it looks
for wi-fi signals, if it finds them, it connects via IP to YOUR CELLULAR
NETWORK PROVIDER who will have IP servers. Your phone will still connect
to your mobile carrier and use your mobile phone number and be billed
for usage just as if you were using the normal GSM/CDMA over the air
interface.
Apple's iPhOnE customers are not individuals, it is AT&T in the USA.
Apple caters to AT&T's desires, and Apple isn't about to allow its
iPhOnEs to connect to any SIP voip gateway because it would reduce AT&T
revenus. And since Apple has negotiated a share of the AT&T revenus for
iPhOnE usage, Apple doesn't benefit from allowing iPhOnE users to
bypass AT&T.
> Nah, they still have total flexibility. They have the option to buy part
> of the wireless spectrum, or they can go full WiFi, or WiMax... they can
> also cut deals with other cell carriers, etc. There are no blocks on the
> iPhone which gives Apple plenty of leverage.
Are you aware that Apple has a 5 year exclusivity agreement with AT&T ?
It is not able to sell iPhOnEs to any other USA network for 5 years.
> The iPhone has only been out for 150 days and it's already shook the
> cell industry to its knees, so best to hang tight and see how Apple
> guides the cell industry from here on out.
No, Apple, as expected, has gotten the media's attention for the iPhOnE
because Apple is excellent with marketing. In the big picture, it is
still small numbers, and its exclusivity deals will really limit Apple
sales.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
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> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> original phone back in 1876.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1..._Telephone.jpg
>
> The iPhone changes EVERYTHING we knew before.
>
> Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
>
>
> 1. The iPhone design
>
> Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
> an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
> technology is that good design is actually as important as good
> technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
> unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
> attractive while doing it.
>
> An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
> mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
> zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
> like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
> gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
> really is depth.
>
> 2. It's touchy-feely
>
> Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
> (Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
> snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
> do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
> graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
> in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
> that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
> with their hands > stretching and shrinking photographs with their
> fingers.
>
> This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
> relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
> Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
> propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
> Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
> is the new seeing.
>
> 3. It will make other phones better
>
> Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
> dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
> negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
> reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
> hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
> gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
> specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
> the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
>
> 4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
>
> When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
> bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
> system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
> glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
> gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
> that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
> idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
> happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
> gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
> need them.
>
> And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
> month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
> iPhone, so that you > able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all
> that black blank
> space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
> pretty, useful icons.
>
> 5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
>
> The iPhone has sold enough units > time > and its infinitely updatable,
> all-software interface, the iPhone is
> built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
> interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
> whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
> something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
> have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...678581,00.html
Don't you mean the greatest disaster of the 21st century.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
In article <8be9f$472a77e9$cef8887a$2666@TEKSAVVY.COM>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
> >
> > This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> > been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> > original phone back in 1876.
>
> Apple squandered a HUGE opportunity with he Iphone. By agreeing to
> become a slave to wireless networks, the feature set of the iphone will
> forever be reduced to protect wireless network revenus. So Wi-Fi will
> forever be crippled to prevent owners from bypassing expensive network
> services.
We don't know what kind of restrictions there might be on third-party
apps. It's possible there might not be any, really, and someone can
implement Skype for the iPhone while Apple throws up its hands and tells
AT&T they didn't do it and there's nothing they can do to stop it.
I suspect this was a hard choice for Apple, but given today's cell phone
market they didn't see much alternative. iPhone users would likely be
paying twice as much for their unlimited data if Apple hadn't cut a deal
with AT&T.
Apple probably *does* plan to move to an unlocked device eventually,
which is probably a big part of why they're getting people used to
paying $400 upfront. But at least in the US, the mobile landscape just
isn't ready for this yet IMO.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming
out any other way."
--George W. Bush in Martinsburg, W. Va., July 4, 2007
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
ZnU wrote:
> I suspect this was a hard choice for Apple, but given today's cell phone
> market they didn't see much alternative. iPhone users would likely be
> paying twice as much for their unlimited data if Apple hadn't cut a deal
> with AT&T.
The above works very well for "phone" which are seen as essentially
disposable devices you wish to replace every couple of years, so you are
unwilling to spend big bucks on it.
If you view the iPhone as primarily a computer/PDA with a phone attached
to it, then people are probably willing to pay more for it because they
are buying a long lasting tool that could work with any GSM network (if
it were unlocked with its full potential enabled).
>
> Apple probably *does* plan to move to an unlocked device eventually,
Such a device might be marketed as an iPod and thus bypass any legal
restrictions due to Apple's exclusive contracts with various networks in
the world. And if such Ipod was based on a non "phone" network (aka:
WiMax instead of GSM) then Apple could claim it isn't competing against
the iphone.
On the other hand, perhaps the exclusive contracts apply only to the
2.5G networks (GSM/GPRS/EDGE), and when Apple unveils a 3G version, it
will not be tied to any exclusive contracts (and by then, Apple will
have built brand credibility in the phone market and people will want to
pay the real price for a unit that is unhindered by any network
restrictions.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
>
>>> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>>>
>>> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
>>> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
>>> original phone back in 1876.
>> More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
>> direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
>> something old, not a way to do something new.
>
> nobody has done multi-touch before, nobody has done a real browser in a
> cell phone before, nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>
> workable visual voice mail another first. super slim size, incredible
> battery life, airport mode, international mode, on and on...
>
> but thanks for trying jack!
>
> you'll get an iphone at some point, so don't worry!
>
> -
No MMS messages
No 3G
No GPS
No user-replaceable battery
Poor PDA functionality
Restrictive terms of use...
No memory expansion..
Have to PAY for ringtones?
2 Megapixel Camera
No output to TV
VOIP?
Touch Screen? Been around for along time.. 'MultiTouch'.. Completely
superfluous.. What USEFUL thing can it do? Please do not come back with
the old pinch and stretch argument... It is a cute feature, but hardly
earth shattering..
No one has done the iPod in a phone? Have you forgotten the ROKr?, and
the iPhone doesn't have near the capacity it should to make it truly
'useful' as an iPod...
'Real' Browser? Please...
Visual Voice Mail? I get that with GrandCentral..(Who by the way, was
the 'first'..) and really have no use for it..
Airport Mode/ International Mode? Phones have had that for years...
Super Slim? Slim? maybe, but 'super'.. NOT...
The iPhone is 4.5x2.5x.46 inches.. The Razr (what is that a 5 year old
phone?) is 3.86x2.08x.54
As far as volume.. The iPhone is 5.2 cubic inches vs Razr's 4.3...
So why is it again? that the iPhone is so revolutionary? You, and many
others, have obviously fallen victim to another genius marketing blitz
by Apple and have gotten sucked into a flashy overpriced product with
little or no substance...
It is 'pretty'., I will give you that, but that's all it is..
If you like the phone, good for you, enjoy it.. But it sounds more like
you are trying to convince yourselves you didn't waste the money on old,
repackaged tech...
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > Nah, they still have total flexibility. They have the option to buy part
> > of the wireless spectrum, or they can go full WiFi, or WiMax... they can
> > also cut deals with other cell carriers, etc. There are no blocks on the
> > iPhone which gives Apple plenty of leverage.
>
> Are you aware that Apple has a 5 year exclusivity agreement with AT&T ?
> It is not able to sell iPhOnEs to any other USA network for 5 years.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
In article <67dc$472ad896$cef8887a$24502@TEKSAVVY.COM>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > I suspect this was a hard choice for Apple, but given today's cell phone
> > market they didn't see much alternative. iPhone users would likely be
> > paying twice as much for their unlimited data if Apple hadn't cut a deal
> > with AT&T.
>
> The above works very well for "phone" which are seen as essentially
> disposable devices you wish to replace every couple of years, so you are
> unwilling to spend big bucks on it.
>
> If you view the iPhone as primarily a computer/PDA with a phone attached
> to it, then people are probably willing to pay more for it because they
> are buying a long lasting tool that could work with any GSM network (if
> it were unlocked with its full potential enabled).
Apple is going for a mass market with the iPhone, not just for techies.
I don't think most of the market would pay $40/month or up just for
data, which is what unlimited data service tends to cost for high-end
devices whose vendors haven't cut a deal with the carriers.
> > Apple probably *does* plan to move to an unlocked device eventually,
>
> Such a device might be marketed as an iPod and thus bypass any legal
> restrictions due to Apple's exclusive contracts with various networks in
> the world. And if such Ipod was based on a non "phone" network (aka:
> WiMax instead of GSM) then Apple could claim it isn't competing against
> the iphone.
Well, the ITU just approved WiMAX as part of the 3G standard, which
would probably make it a lot harder for Apple claim it's not a "phone"
network technology. It's hard to say just what Apple could get away
with, since we don't have access to the exact contract they signed with
AT&T (and we probably never will).
> On the other hand, perhaps the exclusive contracts apply only to the
> 2.5G networks (GSM/GPRS/EDGE), and when Apple unveils a 3G version, it
> will not be tied to any exclusive contracts (and by then, Apple will
> have built brand credibility in the phone market and people will want to
> pay the real price for a unit that is unhindered by any network
> restrictions.
Maybe. They seem to have gotten a fair bit of what they wanted from
AT&T, so it doesn't seem *too* implausible that there's a way for them
to get out of the deal early, if they really want to.
--
"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming
out any other way."
--George W. Bush in Martinsburg, W. Va., July 4, 2007
no problem, but price wise it's the most inexpensive smartphone by far.
including cables in the box would be an ecological error since less than
10% are going to use it with a TV, plus it would make the box heavier to
ship, etc. no need to waste that much jet fuel / plastic on the few that
needed.
apple tends to get down to the "pure essence" of a product, they don't
go for frills or unneeded features. just all the power packed into a
well engineered box that is simple to use and will last for 4-6 years
without any maintenance.
other cell phone companies should try this approach and they have no
choice but to do it now. the iphone is incredible and puts every other
cell phone manufacture to shame.
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