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Old 09-04-2007, 11:40 PM
Jim
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Default Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July

In article <1188926548.938449.61260@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.c om>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:

> On Sep 4, 12:09 pm, Jim <j...@NOwwa.net> wrote:
> > In article <1188923591.837895.170...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,

> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...

> >
> > > > > > -

> >
> > > > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > > > percent
> > > > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > > > Tuesday.

> >
> > > > > [snip]

> >
> > > > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."

> >
> > > > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/

> >
> > > > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > > > iPhones. So?

> >
> > > No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> > > phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.

> >
> > > > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?

> >
> > > It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!

> >
> > Do you even know how survey's are done and evaluated?

>
> How does the answer to that question change the fact this is only an
> estimate based on a survey, and not actual sales figures?


I forgot to mention that you just might think of this as being the
cousin of an exit poll on election day.

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:02 AM
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On 2007-09-04 09:15:38 -0700, Larry <noone@home.com> said:

> Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
> DD9A61.09101104092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:
>
>> rising to more than 30 million in 2011.

>
> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years?


Not of the first model, but the product line will keep on growing.

> I predict it may last 6 months to a year...but someone will trump it
> LONG before 4 years is up and the Yuppie class will move on!


Apple will trump it, just like they topped every version of the iPod.
Unlike many other companies, they understand that they'd better be the
ones who supersede their own best-selling products, like the way the
replaced the iPod mini with the iPod nano.

-jcr


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Old 09-05-2007, 12:05 AM
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On 2007-09-04 14:34:10 -0700, Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmail.com> said:

> Get back to us when you take down that shrine of Steve Jobs that you
> pray to every day.


You realize, I hope, that a statement like that says far more about
you, than the person you directed it towards.

-jcr


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Old 09-05-2007, 12:40 AM
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Jezuz....

Another goddam fanboy...

And, a delusional one at that.


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-4E2B12.12023304092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net...
>
> No Larry, you have no idea of how all of this works.
>
> Apple has 200+ patents on the iPhone, so no matter WHAT... Apple will
> have the lead for 17 years or so... Apple is the outsider with far
> better engineering talent than any Cell Phone company has, so Apple
> completely eliminated the "cell upgrade" cycle with a SINGLE product.
>
> Ouch!
>
> Now anyone that gets an iPhone will have years and years of service
> without upgrading, changing the battery, etc. They killed the "throw
> away cell phone with one fell swoop!"
>
> Apple builds the best cell phones on the planet and that's just a fact
> the Cell Industry needs to learn.
>
> It might take them 6 months to 4 years to understand, but when Apple
> "enters" a "market"... all competitors die off rather quickly.
>
> Apple did this with the mini and mainframe market in the early 80's, did
> it again to the publishing industry, did it again with the MP3 market,
> and now you are seeing them wipe out the Cell Phone Industry as we "knew
> it", 65 days ago.
>
> Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
>
> -




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Old 09-05-2007, 12:42 AM
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"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -


Yeah, They were so disruptive that they almost went belly up. If not for
Bill Gates handing them over 100 million.


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Old 09-05-2007, 12:44 AM
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The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a shit for business.
Slick interface, not much else.

It "disrupted' very little - if anything.

Pull your head out fanboy!!


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -




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Old 09-05-2007, 12:47 AM
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The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a shit for business.

And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
such an asinine comment.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!




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Old 09-05-2007, 12:50 AM
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In article <BIednT5zebl8JEDbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>,
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
> >>>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?

> >
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
> >

>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
> >
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
> >

>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
> >
> > Get with the program!

>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?


I use it for my business. Sold my Treo because this trumped it in every
way. Far easier to use and do business with.

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Old 09-05-2007, 12:51 AM
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I certainly did play with it and have used one, nice toy for sure.
(REALLY STUPID not to have an exchangeable battery)

But I am in business and it certainly isn't a business tool.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>> >
>> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
>> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!

>>
>> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
>> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
>> phone.

>
> You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
> non-biased report on the actual device.
>
> If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
> subject.
>
>> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
>> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.

>
> Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
> is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
> Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
> anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
> is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?
>
>> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
>> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
>> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>> >
>> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>> >
>> > Get with the program!

>>
>> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
>> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>

>
> The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
> else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
> phone hardware.
>
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:16 AM
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In article <xfadnZNuDOuKYEDbnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a shit for business.
>
> And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
> I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
> such an asinine comment.
>
> Pull your head out fanboy!
>

yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
trying to work with that.

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Old 09-05-2007, 01:34 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Jezuz....
>
> Another goddam fanboy...
>
> And, a delusional one at that.


"Ness_net" you might want to learn a little about posting to USENET.

You NEVER post at the top! That's the mark of a newbie. Plus I see you
are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6, which kinda makes you look like a
fool.

Learn a little about technology and how to communicate on the "net",
then everyone will laugh at you less.

You are dealing with well informed people here, but your comment(s) reek
of ignorance.

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Old 09-05-2007, 01:40 AM
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Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> > have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
> >

>
> You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!
>
> Larry


Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
branded Samsung ARM as the processor.

Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?

But thanks for playing!

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Old 09-05-2007, 01:54 AM
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On Sep 4, 4:06 pm, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.

>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.

>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?

>
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.

>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!

>
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.

>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.

>
> > Get with the program!

>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....

http://docs.google.com


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Old 09-05-2007, 02:12 AM
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Fuck off fanboy... Look at whom is laughing at whom....
(it ain't me)

Interesting you didn't address ANY valid points.
Just did the tired old (and ultra-lame) Usenet cop routine.
Used when someone is too limp-dicked to actually address the issue(s).
A sure sign of someone that has NO facts to actually stand on.

I top post because I prefer it that way. It is the way I do e-mail (and ALL
business does BTW) - and I will continue to do so even if some idiot
spouts off about it. But, business is foreign to you, I'd bet...

I've probably been around well before you could walk, much less type.
Nice try, nut NOT EVEN CLOSE moron.

"Technology" huh? You couldn't be farther from the actual truth. I've
been a network engineer for years and I fart more technology than you know.
CCNE, MCITP, MCSE, etc... What are YOU? Some dumb ass kid, I'm sure...

I have Agent and use it when I need that specific tool. I use O Express because
it works well for simple text stuff. The right tool for the job.

Now again - pull your head out FANBOY!!!




"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Jezuz....
>>
>> Another goddam fanboy...
>>
>> And, a delusional one at that.

>
> "Ness_net" you might want to learn a little about posting to USENET.
>
> You NEVER post at the top! That's the mark of a newbie. Plus I see you
> are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6, which kinda makes you look like a
> fool.
>
> Learn a little about technology and how to communicate on the "net",
> then everyone will laugh at you less.
>
> You are dealing with well informed people here, but your comment(s) reek
> of ignorance.
>
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:19 AM
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KDT <scarface_74@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>
> http://docs.googl


interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:20 AM
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Moron can't even post a link....
Yet, you snipe at others about being new...


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> KDT <scarface_74@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>>
>> http://docs.googl

>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...




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Old 09-05-2007, 02:28 AM
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Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

> > "Ness_net" you might want to learn a little about posting to USENET.
> >
> > You NEVER post at the top! That's the mark of a newbie. Plus I see you
> > are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6, which kinda makes you look like a
> > fool.

>
> Not only that, but Outlook Express FORCES you to top post - it has no
> other way unless you fix it manually each time you post.
>
> If you look at the headers of top posters, you will find the vast
> majority of them are using OE 6.


yeah, Microsoft makes you look foolish, this is just another example.

poor Ness_Net doesn't have the slightest clue to how the modern world
works.

So sad.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:31 AM
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At 04 Sep 2007 21:43:57 -0400 Bob Campbell wrote:

> Not only that, but Outlook Express FORCES you to top post - it has

no
> other way unless you fix it manually each time you post.


Yep- scrolling to the bottom of a post and clicking there to move the
cursor sure is hard work!

I usually post from my WinMo phone using QMail, like I'm doing now,
(which also "forces" one to top post, BTW) but I generally use OE
from my desktop. It works fine for what it is.


> If you look at the headers of top posters, you will find the vast
> majority of them are using OE 6.



I nevr really noticed or cared. While I don't top post very often,
IMO it's a style choice. I tend not to particularly care which
method someone uses if they have something useful to say.
Personally, I prefer posting inline.



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Old 09-05-2007, 02:36 AM
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It is certain by your (multiple) ignorant posts that maturity escapes you.
Attacking anything and everything - BUT the actual issue that was being
discussed. Typical, blind fanboy behavior.

Care to actually discuss technology? The "modern world"??

PLEASE attempt to actually engage me in technology issues, where I have
many years of real world, hands on engineering experience.

What do YOU have??

Blind fanboy fanaticism is all, I'd bet. Zero actual REAL knowledge...



"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:
>
>> > "Ness_net" you might want to learn a little about posting to USENET.
>> >
>> > You NEVER post at the top! That's the mark of a newbie. Plus I see you
>> > are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6, which kinda makes you look like a
>> > fool.

>>
>> Not only that, but Outlook Express FORCES you to top post - it has no
>> other way unless you fix it manually each time you post.
>>
>> If you look at the headers of top posters, you will find the vast
>> majority of them are using OE 6.

>
> yeah, Microsoft makes you look foolish, this is just another example.
>
> poor Ness_Net doesn't have the slightest clue to how the modern world
> works.
>
> So sad.




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Old 09-05-2007, 02:42 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
news:5LCdnS02Cqo4i0PbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com ...
> It is certain by your (multiple) ignorant posts that maturity escapes you.
> Attacking anything and everything - BUT the actual issue that was being
> discussed. Typical, blind fanboy behavior.
>
> Care to actually discuss technology? The "modern world"??
>
> PLEASE attempt to actually engage me in technology issues, where I have
> many years of real world, hands on engineering experience.



You lie and say you have experience in technology issues and yet you top
post!!





> news:colalovesmacs-DD9C8D.20283004092007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
>> Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:
>>
>>> > "Ness_net" you might want to learn a little about posting to USENET.
>>> >
>>> > You NEVER post at the top! That's the mark of a newbie. Plus I see you
>>> > are using Microsoft Outlook Express 6, which kinda makes you look like
>>> > a
>>> > fool.
>>>
>>> Not only that, but Outlook Express FORCES you to top post - it has no
>>> other way unless you fix it manually each time you post.
>>>
>>> If you look at the headers of top posters, you will find the vast
>>> majority of them are using OE 6.

>>
>> yeah, Microsoft makes you look foolish, this is just another example.
>>
>> poor Ness_Net doesn't have the slightest clue to how the modern world
>> works.
>>
>> So sad.

>
>



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Old 09-05-2007, 02:44 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Care to actually discuss technology? The "modern world"??
>
> PLEASE attempt to actually engage me in technology issues, where I have
> many years of real world, hands on engineering experience.


Until you learn proper posting procedures on usenet, your comments are
moot. First LEARN how to post then we can communicate, until then you
appear to be a 3 year old child.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:53 AM
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Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
F4C7FF.20442804092007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Care to actually discuss technology? The "modern world"??
>>
>> PLEASE attempt to actually engage me in technology issues, where I have
>> many years of real world, hands on engineering experience.

>
> Until you learn proper posting procedures on usenet, your comments are
> moot. First LEARN how to post then we can communicate, until then you
> appear to be a 3 year old child.
>
> -
>


That puts him a full year ahead of you.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:56 AM
Todd Allcock
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At 04 Sep 2007 18:16:27 -0700 Kurt wrote:

> yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
> trying to work with that.



I always find it interesting when someone complains about screen size
and resolution on modern smartphones. Sure it isn't a 1084x768 17"
display, but 320x240 and 640x480 were both desktop standards not too
many years sgo. I find Excel no more difficult to use on my PPC
screen than Lotus 1-2-3 or Multiplan were on my ancient CGA displays
years ago.

A PDA/smartphone is a technological Swiss Army Knife. A very useful
collection of tools in a compact, easy to carry package. Sure, any
one of those tools pales in comparison to it's full-sized/full-
featured equivalent, but that's hardly the point, is it? No one
who's ever used the screwdriver or scissors on a Swiss Army knife
prefered it over using a real screwdriver or a real pair of scissors.
The point is that I essentially have the most important capabilities
of a low-end laptop in a device the size of a deck of cards, and,
more importantly, like the knife, I have it EVERYWHERE, unlike a pair
of scissors, screwdriver, or a laptop!

Unlike a prior poster, I won't claim you can't possibly use your
iPhone for business- but I'll guess that your business uses do not
require much more than e-mail, web access and telephony. If so,
fine. But some of us need more, and need it even when the cell
network is unavailable (docs.google.com? Google Maps? Surrre...)

That's why I find the iPhone so disappointing. It's an impressive
piece of hardware hampered by an extremely foolish (greedy?) business
plan. Third-party developers have done amazing things with the iPod.
If given "official" access to the iPhone, these and other 3rd-party
developers would've likely already turned the iPhone into a real
business-class device that'd give RIM, Symbian and MS a run for their
money. As it stands now, it's an iPod phone with webtablet, (and a
darn spiffy one!) A tremendous waste of excellent equipment.




--

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003



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Until you care to actually discuss "technology" and not
just engage in a 'pissing match', I will simply write you off as
just another mis-informed rabid fanboy.

Your top post smoke screen is not only very transparent, it's
probably also indicative of your actual level of knowledge
on the actual subject ("technology" in your words) that was
being discussed.




"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Until you learn proper posting procedures on usenet, your comments are
> moot. First LEARN how to post then we can communicate, until then you
> appear to be a 3 year old child.
>
> -




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Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

> > I top post because I prefer it that way. It is the way I do e-mail (and ALL
> > business does BTW) - and I will continue to do so even if some idiot
> > spouts off about it. But, business is foreign to you, I'd bet...

>
> Yes, all business email is top-posted. It's that way where I work
> also.
>
> That doesn't make it correct here. This is usenet. Only newbies top
> post (and use OE 6!) here.
>
> Seriously, you need to learn how to use the medium if you want to be
> taken seriously. Otherwise you will simply be laughed at, no matter
> what you post.


just ignore Ness_Net, even his website shows he's a massive newbie.

too funny!

http://www.nessnet.com/

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Old 09-05-2007, 03:25 AM
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I certainly don't want to engage in a pointless argument about
how one is supposed to post. The subject is beaten to death
ad nauseam by those MUCH more opinionated than I...

As long as you edit properly, I see no difference. I care
to actually READ the content and what is being said. Not how it
is posted.

If someone were to actually ignore what is being posted
or laugh at it simply because of something so goddam trivial, it is
not my problem - it is entirely theirs.


"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message news:bob-F3C374.23104204092007@news.supernews.com...
> In article <oYGdnc9O3LZ6jUPbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> I top post because I prefer it that way. It is the way I do e-mail (and ALL
>> business does BTW) - and I will continue to do so even if some idiot
>> spouts off about it. But, business is foreign to you, I'd bet...

>
> Yes, all business email is top-posted. It's that way where I work
> also.
>
> That doesn't make it correct here. This is usenet. Only newbies top
> post (and use OE 6!) here.
>
> Seriously, you need to learn how to use the medium if you want to be
> taken seriously. Otherwise you will simply be laughed at, no matter
> what you post.
>
> Bob




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Old 09-05-2007, 03:27 AM
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It's only a place holder, nothing more. Never was.
All of 30 seconds of effort.

Keep grasping at those straws.....
And avoid actually discussing anything.


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:
>
>> > I top post because I prefer it that way. It is the way I do e-mail (and ALL
>> > business does BTW) - and I will continue to do so even if some idiot
>> > spouts off about it. But, business is foreign to you, I'd bet...

>>
>> Yes, all business email is top-posted. It's that way where I work
>> also.
>>
>> That doesn't make it correct here. This is usenet. Only newbies top
>> post (and use OE 6!) here.
>>
>> Seriously, you need to learn how to use the medium if you want to be
>> taken seriously. Otherwise you will simply be laughed at, no matter
>> what you post.

>
> just ignore Ness_Net, even his website shows he's a massive newbie.
>
> too funny!
>
> http://www.nessnet.com/
>
> -




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Old 09-05-2007, 03:40 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> I certainly don't want to engage in a pointless argument about
> how one is supposed to post. The subject is beaten to death
> ad nauseam by those MUCH more opinionated than I...
>
> As long as you edit properly, I see no difference. I care
> to actually READ the content and what is being said. Not how it
> is posted.
>
> If someone were to actually ignore what is being posted
> or laugh at it simply because of something so goddam trivial, it is
> not my problem - it is entirely theirs.


Answer: Because people don't communicate that way.
Question: Why should you not top post on usenet?

by the way.... LOVED your website!

its technological sophistication about knocked me out!

http://www.nessnet.com/

wow!

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Old 09-05-2007, 03:43 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> It's only a place holder, nothing more. Never was.
> All of 30 seconds of effort.
>
> Keep grasping at those straws.....
> And avoid actually discussing anything.


So you can't create a website, check.
So you don't know how USENET works, check.

you're a newbie, check.

ness_net has been plonked, check.

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Old 09-05-2007, 03:50 AM
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Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

> > just ignore Ness_Net, even his website shows he's a massive newbie.
> >
> > too funny!
> >
> > http://www.nessnet.com/

>
> BWAHAHAH. Yep, you are right! This guy is clueless. At least it's
> not done in MS Front Page!


I see he is from Tacoma WA, one of the most backwards technological
states in the nation, so it figures.

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