(Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
ISuppli reiterated its forecast that Apple would sell 4.5 million
iPhones this year, rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
The two models of the iPhone on the market sold more than Research in
Motion's Blackberry series, the entire Palm portfolio and any individual
smartphone model from Motorola, Nokia or Samsung.
ISuppli classifies the iPhone as a crossover phone that competes with
both smartphones, which have personal computer-like functions such as
e-mail, and feature phones, which have extras such as cameras and music
players.
"While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
market," iSuppli said.
"Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
competitors."
Most buyers of iPhones in the United States in July were male, under 35
and had a college degree, iSuppli said.
A quarter of those who bought an iPhone switched to operator AT&T, which
has an exclusive service agreement for the iPhone in the United States.
The iPhone will go on sale in Europe later this year.
Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may last 6
months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4 years is up and
the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a phone that lasted a
year since dropping the Startacs and standard battery packs!
Larry
--
Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium"
The ultimate dirty bomb......
On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> -
>
> (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
[snip]
"The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
In article <1188922899.836476.91670@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > -
> >
> > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> [snip]
>
> "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
iPhones. So?
Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
>
>
> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> > > -
>
> > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> > [snip]
>
> > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
>
> Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> iPhones. So?
No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
> Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
On Sep 4, 12:33 pm, Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> > > > -
>
> > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> > > [snip]
>
> > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
>
> > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > iPhones. So?
>
> No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
>
> > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
>
> It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
Are you claiming that a survey of 2 million is not statistically
significant?
In article <1188923591.837895.170600@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > > > -
> >
> > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > percent
> > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > Tuesday.
> >
> > > [snip]
> >
> > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
> >
> > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
> >
> > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > iPhones. So?
>
> No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
>
> > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
>
> It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
Do you even know how survey's are done and evaluated?
On Sep 4, 12:03 pm, KDT <scarface...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 12:33 pm, Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> > > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> > > > > -
>
> > > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> > > > [snip]
>
> > > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> > > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
>
> > > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > > iPhones. So?
>
> > No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> > phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
>
> > > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
>
> > It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
>
> Are you claiming that a survey of 2 million is not statistically
> significant?
Are you really too stupid to understand what I wrote?
On Sep 4, 12:09 pm, Jim <j...@NOwwa.net> wrote:
> In article <1188923591.837895.170...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
>
>
>
> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> > > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> > > > > -
>
> > > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > > percent
> > > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > > Tuesday.
>
> > > > [snip]
>
> > > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> > > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
>
> > > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > > iPhones. So?
>
> > No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> > phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
>
> > > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
>
> > It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
>
> Do you even know how survey's are done and evaluated?
How does the answer to that question change the fact this is only an
estimate based on a survey, and not actual sales figures?
On Sep 4, 11:15 am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
> DD9A61.09101104092...@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:
>
> > rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may last 6
> months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4 years is up and
> the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a phone that lasted a
> year since dropping the Startacs and standard battery packs!
>
> Larry
In article <1188923591.837895.170600@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > > > -
> >
> > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > percent
> > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > Tuesday.
> >
> > > [snip]
> >
> > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
> >
> > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
> >
> > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > iPhones. So?
>
> No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
What do you think the margin of error for such a survey is?
>
> > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
>
> It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
LOL
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
In article <1188926548.938449.61260@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.c om>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 12:09 pm, Jim <j...@NOwwa.net> wrote:
> > In article <1188923591.837895.170...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > > > > > -
> >
> > > > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > > > percent
> > > > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > > > Tuesday.
> >
> > > > > [snip]
> >
> > > > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
> >
> > > > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
> >
> > > > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > > > iPhones. So?
> >
> > > No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> > > phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
> >
> > > > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
> >
> > > It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
> >
> > Do you even know how survey's are done and evaluated?
>
> How does the answer to that question change the fact this is only an
> estimate based on a survey, and not actual sales figures?
That's it, Edwin: you hang on to your ludicrous claim that no iPhones
were sold after the end of June just as long as you can!
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
> > rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may last 6
> months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4 years is up and
> the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a phone that lasted a
> year since dropping the Startacs and standard battery packs!
>
> Larry
No Larry, you have no idea of how all of this works.
Apple has 200+ patents on the iPhone, so no matter WHAT... Apple will
have the lead for 17 years or so... Apple is the outsider with far
better engineering talent than any Cell Phone company has, so Apple
completely eliminated the "cell upgrade" cycle with a SINGLE product.
Ouch!
Now anyone that gets an iPhone will have years and years of service
without upgrading, changing the battery, etc. They killed the "throw
away cell phone with one fell swoop!"
Apple builds the best cell phones on the planet and that's just a fact
the Cell Industry needs to learn.
It might take them 6 months to 4 years to understand, but when Apple
"enters" a "market"... all competitors die off rather quickly.
Apple did this with the mini and mainframe market in the early 80's, did
it again to the publishing industry, did it again with the MP3 market,
and now you are seeing them wipe out the Cell Phone Industry as we "knew
it", 65 days ago.
Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
work.
The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
one bit.
Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
But the iPhone isn't a smartphone. It's a stupid phone for stupid people.
The blackberry 8830 is superior to it in every single way, shape, form, and
function.
In article <1188926548.938449.61260@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.c om>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 12:09 pm, Jim <j...@NOwwa.net> wrote:
> > In article <1188923591.837895.170...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 4, 11:25 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <1188922899.836476.91...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> >
> > > > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > > > > > -
> >
> > > > > > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > > > > > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8
> > > > > > percent
> > > > > > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on
> > > > > > Tuesday.
> >
> > > > > [snip]
> >
> > > > > "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> > > > > estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> > > > > during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
> >
> > > > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
> >
> > > > Yes, Edwin. 1.8% of *all* cell phones sold in the U.S. in July were
> > > > iPhones. So?
> >
> > > No, it's an estimate based on a survey says that 1.8% of all cell
> > > phone sales were iPhones, not actual sales figures.
> >
> > > > Pardon me: So what relevance do you think that fact has?
> >
> > > It did a good job of getting you to make yourself look stupid... AGAIN!
> >
> > Do you even know how survey's are done and evaluated?
>
> How does the answer to that question change the fact this is only an
> estimate based on a survey, and not actual sales figures?
You think a survey is insignificant since it suits your purpose, to
bash, and of course the answer doesn't fit your preconceived idea that
Apple stuff of any kind is crap.
Survey's are a tool of Market Research and are valuable tools to look at
trends.
In article <Xns99A17DC94DBEBnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
> DD9A61.09101104092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:
>
> > rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may last 6
> months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4 years is up and
> the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a phone that lasted a
> year since dropping the Startacs and standard battery packs!
>
> Larry
Larry, in his lack of foresight, assumes that Apple will be standing
still and not evolving the iPhone while all others trump Apple's
offerings.
Oxford wrote:
> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -
The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
display your position and route?
> > Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> > scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
> >
> > This a VERY GOOD thing.
> >
> > -
> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> display your position and route?
Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
Oxford wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
>>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>>>
>>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>>>
>>> -
>> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
>> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
>> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
>> display your position and route?
>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
Yes, really.
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!
So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
for business use?
In article <1188922899.836476.91670@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > -
> >
> > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> [snip]
>
> "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/
Oxford wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
>>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>>>
>>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>>>
>>> -
>> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
>> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
>> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
>> display your position and route?
>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
phone.
It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!
I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:10:11 -0600, Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote
this with the utmost thought:
>apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
>-
>
>(Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
>States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
>of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
So WTF has this to do with a Nokia group? When Apple sells enough 'phones
to make a significant dent on Nokias then it may be worth debating them but
for now, who gives a shit?
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
> >
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
> phone.
You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
non-biased report on the actual device.
If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
subject.
> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
> >
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
> >
> > Get with the program!
>
> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
phone hardware.
Oxford wrote:
> Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>>>
>>> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
>>> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
>> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
>> phone.
>
> You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
> non-biased report on the actual device.
You? non-biased? ROFLMAO! Get back to us when you take down that shrine
of Steve Jobs that you pray to every day.
>
> If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
> subject.
Yeah, I can. Used it... It's useless for my needs. It'd be a cool toy,
but beyond that, what's the use? Without the ability to add
applications, it's useless.
>
>> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
>> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
>
> Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
> is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
> Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
> anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
> is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?
Uh huh... Nokia is a gonner... Get back to us when that happens<eye roll>
>>> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
>>> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
>>> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>>>
>>> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>>>
>>> Get with the program!
>> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
>> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
>
> The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
> else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
> phone hardware.
>
> -
> Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be
Probably the first killer iPhone app was the hack that actually let
you install APPS on it!
(It's hard to have a "killer app" on a closed device!)
--
"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not
> really.
Which proves YOU'VE clearly never owned a smartphone, and therefore
"there is no way you can comment on this subject."
--
"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
> apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> -
>
> (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> ISuppli reiterated its forecast that Apple would sell 4.5 million
> iPhones this year, rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> The two models of the iPhone on the market sold more than Research in
> Motion's Blackberry series, the entire Palm portfolio and any individual
> smartphone model from Motorola, Nokia or Samsung.
>
> ISuppli classifies the iPhone as a crossover phone that competes with
> both smartphones, which have personal computer-like functions such as
> e-mail, and feature phones, which have extras such as cameras and music
> players.
>
> "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
> it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
> in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
> market," iSuppli said.
>
> "Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
> competitors."
>
> Most buyers of iPhones in the United States in July were male, under 35
> and had a college degree, iSuppli said.
>
> A quarter of those who bought an iPhone switched to operator AT&T, which
> has an exclusive service agreement for the iPhone in the United States.
>
> The iPhone will go on sale in Europe later this year.
Wow- less than 2% of the market, despite spending a large fortune on viral
advertising during the time period. For Apple, that kind of market share
would be huge.
In the mean time, not a single AT&T commercial features the iPhone and a
random survey of AT&T retailers shows that it falls well down the list of
recommended devices when not asked for specifically.
BTW- for Apple to sell 4.5 million phones with a 1.8% market share (as the
article implies), every cellular user in the US would have to replace their
phone between now and the year. Not likely.
Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in
news:colalovesmacs-4E2B12.12023304092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> > rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>>
>> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may
>> last 6 months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4
>> years is up and the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a
>> phone that lasted a year since dropping the Startacs and standard
>> battery packs!
>>
>> Larry
>
> No Larry, you have no idea of how all of this works.
>
> Apple has 200+ patents on the iPhone, so no matter WHAT... Apple will
> have the lead for 17 years or so... Apple is the outsider with far
> better engineering talent than any Cell Phone company has, so Apple
> completely eliminated the "cell upgrade" cycle with a SINGLE product.
>
> Ouch!
>
> Now anyone that gets an iPhone will have years and years of service
> without upgrading, changing the battery, etc. They killed the "throw
> away cell phone with one fell swoop!"
>
> Apple builds the best cell phones on the planet and that's just a fact
> the Cell Industry needs to learn.
>
> It might take them 6 months to 4 years to understand, but when Apple
> "enters" a "market"... all competitors die off rather quickly.
>
> Apple did this with the mini and mainframe market in the early 80's,
> did it again to the publishing industry, did it again with the MP3
> market, and now you are seeing them wipe out the Cell Phone Industry
> as we "knew it", 65 days ago.
>
> Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just
> don't have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
>
> -
You should take your act to the local comedy club- best material I've heard
in ages.
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