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Old 07-14-2007, 08:47 AM
Juergen Marciniak
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Default N95 - GPS Software?

Hey folks,
one more question:

Where did you get your GPS Software from??? And what programm are you using
at all?

And: There is a popular TomTom version out, quit frequent on the N73.

Does it work on the N95 too???


Thx JM



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Old 07-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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On Jul 14, 6:47 pm, "Juergen Marciniak" <JuergenMarcin...@T-Online.de>
wrote:
> Hey folks,
> one more question:
>
> Where did you get your GPS Software from??? And what programm are you using
> at all?
>
> And: There is a popular TomTom version out, quit frequent on the N73.
>
> Does it work on the N95 too???
>
> Thx JM


Nokia bought out a company whose name escapes me but basically it's
their own and comes with the phone. It's the maps you need to download
(and possibly the routing and City Info if you want to pay for that).
It is old and slow. It is also hidden under the keyboard at the bottom
of the phoe rather than the more obvious top of phone so generally
need to operate with slider out which makes you look an idiot if you
are walking down the street and can be awkward to position safely in a
car.

As far as I know because of the way that Nok have done this the usual
3rd party GPS and routing systems that work in conjunction with other
phones do not generally work with N95. It doesn't seem to talk to 3rd
party GPS, and its GPS doesn't seem to talk to routing systems! If
you want a decent GPS then buy that rather than the N95. Maybe someone
in the Group has tried it and can tell you definitively but my memory
of discussions here and in symbian-freak and a few other websites is
that it's a no go, sorry.


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Old 07-15-2007, 12:49 AM
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In article <1184430848.923370.239970@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says...
>
> Nokia bought out a company whose name escapes me but basically it's
> their own and comes with the phone
>


Nokia use the "Smart2Go" software.

And as I posted elsewhere on here, the GPS is virtually useless in the
real world. It takes WAY too long to lock on to be useful. Sometimes
over ten minutes standing in the one spot to wait for a lockon.
Dedicated GPS units (latest generation) use the SIRFStar III chip which
is very quick to lock on. The Nokia uses a much older chip. If in a
car, then it can be plugged into the ciggie lighter socket and kept
running, except there's no safe way to balance it where it can pick up a
signal through the windscreen unless you make some sort of holder.

If you're trying to use it on foot while walking around a new city,
catching buses, cabs, trains, etc - then forget about it. The battery
will only last half a morning if you're lucky, and doing the smart thing
and turning it off once you figure out where to go next is not an
option, as it will take another 5 - 10 minutes to lock on at the street
corner down the road when you want to check the next step of the
directions. You're much better of with a good old paper map!

Believe me - I've just done it. I just finished a 5-week round the
world trip, exploring several cities on foot. I sold a Navman dedicated
GPS unit when I bought the N95 before leaving, I spent hours downloading
and installing maps for all the areas I would be going to - and ended up
not using the phone as a GPS at all after the first 4 or 5 attempts. I
got maps from each city's Tourist Info offices or the hotels, and used
those. Far easier.

Bottom line - do NOT, repeat NOT, buy the N95 for its GPS capabilities.

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Old 07-15-2007, 03:57 AM
Guy Barwood
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Default Re: N95 - GPS Software?

the GPS feature of the 95 neally swayed me, but I am glad it didn't.
Got the n93i instead
its got its own issues like any phone but at least I am not worried about
the missing GPS...

"NightStalker" <Nightstalker@somewhere.or.other> wrote in message
news:MPG.21040bfeecbaf8d2989853@news-europe.giganews.com...
> In article <1184430848.923370.239970@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says...
>>
>> Nokia bought out a company whose name escapes me but basically it's
>> their own and comes with the phone
>>

>
> Nokia use the "Smart2Go" software.
>
> And as I posted elsewhere on here, the GPS is virtually useless in the
> real world. It takes WAY too long to lock on to be useful. Sometimes
> over ten minutes standing in the one spot to wait for a lockon.
> Dedicated GPS units (latest generation) use the SIRFStar III chip which
> is very quick to lock on. The Nokia uses a much older chip. If in a
> car, then it can be plugged into the ciggie lighter socket and kept
> running, except there's no safe way to balance it where it can pick up a
> signal through the windscreen unless you make some sort of holder.
>
> If you're trying to use it on foot while walking around a new city,
> catching buses, cabs, trains, etc - then forget about it. The battery
> will only last half a morning if you're lucky, and doing the smart thing
> and turning it off once you figure out where to go next is not an
> option, as it will take another 5 - 10 minutes to lock on at the street
> corner down the road when you want to check the next step of the
> directions. You're much better of with a good old paper map!
>
> Believe me - I've just done it. I just finished a 5-week round the
> world trip, exploring several cities on foot. I sold a Navman dedicated
> GPS unit when I bought the N95 before leaving, I spent hours downloading
> and installing maps for all the areas I would be going to - and ended up
> not using the phone as a GPS at all after the first 4 or 5 attempts. I
> got maps from each city's Tourist Info offices or the hotels, and used
> those. Far easier.
>
> Bottom line - do NOT, repeat NOT, buy the N95 for its GPS capabilities.
>
> --
>
> NightStalker




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Old 07-15-2007, 12:50 PM
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In article <46999b2e$0$12799$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, spam@spam.com says...
> the GPS feature of the 95 neally swayed me, but I am glad it didn't.
> Got the n93i instead
> its got its own issues like any phone but at least I am not worried about
> the missing GPS...
>


OK - just a quick update. I used the System Software Updater today, and
updated the firmware in my N95. It has introduced something called
"Assisted GPS" or A-GPS. I assume that it uses the cellphone network to
get a broad initial fix, then it knows where to triangulate from the
satellites. And I must admit that my N95 locked on today in about 36
seconds the first time, then I moved down the road about 1 Km, and
turned it back on and it locked on in 27 seconds.

Now that is a vast improvement, and almost on a par with dedicated GPS
units if it can keep up that sort of performance anywhere in the world.
But I suspect that the fact I was in a city with a high density of
cellphone towers may have helped. A bit further out in the bush may not
have been so flash. I'll have to try that away from the city next
chance I get. Also, the fact that I am in my home cellphone range here
in Australia may also have helped - how it would work in Florence or
Quebec I don't know. They are two of the places I tried it in the last
few weeks.

I'm still not convinced it's up to speed to replace a fully dedicated
SirfSTAR III GPS unit yet.

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Old 07-16-2007, 06:51 PM
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"mrripcurl" <mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au> kirjoitti
viestissä:1184430848.923370.239970@w3g2000hsg.goog legroups.com...
> As far as I know because of the way that Nok have done this the usual
> 3rd party GPS and routing systems that work in conjunction with other
> phones do not generally work with N95. It doesn't seem to talk to 3rd
> party GPS, and its GPS doesn't seem to talk to routing systems!


This part is BS. It's kind of like other way around, the GPS info is
available to 3rd party sw but those are not cabable of handling that info.
All 3rd party sw has been designed to use external GPS, now that devices
have internal GPS 3rd party sw needs changes before that info can be used.
Some developers have already done that, Wayfinder for example.




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