a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
In article
<meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>,
David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote:
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
Ah, everybody knows that Thurrott is just a "Maccie"...
LOL
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
On Jun 11, 2:30*am, David Moyer <mee...@world.com> wrote:
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
He should try using one. I dumped the iPhone and went to the BB8830.
You can understand what people are saying on the bb, not so on the
iPhone.
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200
Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:24:08 GMT, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:
>In article
><meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>,
> David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote:
>
>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>> much more here....
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
>Ah, everybody knows that Thurrott is just a "Maccie"...
>
>LOL
100% WRONG
Dont like the message try to descredit the messanger?
Paul is a Microsft person, and has dozens of great books
telling about Windows the things Microsoft left out of their
manuals.
His book on Windows XP, I belive is the largest selling XP book
out there. Windows XP Secrets
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
But... but... Steve Carroll wants me to defend the idea that the iPhone is
industry changing. Maybe if he read a thing or two about the device he
would understand.
Then again, speaking out of his other brain he claimed to agree me.
Someday, I hope, he learns to be consistent.
--
Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein
"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
<bollocks snipped>
> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple,
Do you have to get up especially early to practice being this fucking
stoopid?
Now take your cross-posted shite and keep it to relevant groups.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
wrote:
>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
>Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
>"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
>much more here....
>
>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
>http://www.apple.com/iphone/
"What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
that
the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
one
of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
comments. " http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3?dmode=source
It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>
>
>
> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....
In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
> >
> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >
> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >
> >much more here....
> >
> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >
> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
> e=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
> e=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>
>
>
You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
interest"...
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>Ron wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
>
>
>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....
If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
there's no reasoning with You.
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Ron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
>>
>>
>>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....
>
>
>
> If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
> there's no reasoning with You.
"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
>>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>>Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>>"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>>ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>>before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>>computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>>used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>>on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>>much more here....
>>
>>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3?dmode=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....f?dmode=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.
In article <calvin-77962B.08110411062008@news.goldengate.net>,
Calvin <calvin@microsoft.com> wrote:
> In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
> > David Moyer wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> > >
> > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> > > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> > > device to just $200
> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
> >
> >
> > , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> > > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
> >
> > Still a fashion accessory, no more.
>
> This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF?
MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
real e-mail with attachments?
--
"No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have." -McCain in April
"I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war
in Iraq." -McCain in June
"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>> >
>> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>> >
>> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>> >
>> >much more here....
>> >
>> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>> >
>> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
>> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
>> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
>> that
>> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
>> one
>> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
>> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
>> comments. "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> Among many others.
>>
>> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
>> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
>> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
>> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> interest"...
We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
argument.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0600, "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
>news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>> much more here....
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
>I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.
Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still
find a RIM or Palm cheaper.
"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:1rf054dkb71456kefrgseneg3khue755s5@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0600, "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
>>news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
>>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>>
>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>>
>>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>>
>>> much more here....
>>>
>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
>>I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.
>
>
> Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still
> find a RIM or Palm cheaper.
In article <w7idnd2vOYs8is3VnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
> >
> >
> >
> > Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
>
>
> If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....
Poke around a bit for articles about the iPhone SDK this week at WWDC.
Or, if pictures are easier for you than words, watch the WWDC keynote
video and see examples of some of the upcoming applications being demoed.
In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
>
>
> Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
ah, there are over 1700 apps for the iPhone, with 1000's more coming on
July 11th.
nah, the iPhone is far and away the most sophiscated cell phone you can
buy. It has the largest library of quality apps, the longest battery
life, the easy to navigate UI, the only phone with a real browser, etc,
etc, etc. no other cell phone is even close to the iphone in overall
functionality.
In article <p0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com>,
Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where
> you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters
> feed) FREE.
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/appstore.html
>
> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with
> apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices.
yes, that's a nice feature, plus it's on OSX so you won't have to deal
with quirky issues like Windows users are force to work with every day.
How can you say that ? Being there are no apps yet. Why do you think there
only going to allow one app to run at a time ? Because it may lock up.
Time will tell when the apps start showing up.
"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
news:meetme-EF797B.16223211062008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net...
> In article <p0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com>,
> Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where
>> you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters
>> feed) FREE.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/appstore.html
>>
>> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with
>> apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices.
>
> yes, that's a nice feature, plus it's on OSX so you won't have to deal
> with quirky issues like Windows users are force to work with every day.
>
> it's one incredible device, that's for sure.
In article <8JOdnRNVgaNMqM3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
"PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
> >> >
> >> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >> >
> >> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> >> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> >> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> >> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> >> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> >> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >> >
> >> >much more here....
> >> >
> >> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >> >
> >> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >>
> >> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> >> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> >> that
> >> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> >> one
> >> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> >> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> >> comments. "
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3da9cee4d6a3?d
> >> mod
> >> e=source
> >>
> >> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....dbea6948ceef?d
> >> mod
> >> e=source
> >>
> >> Among many others.
> >>
> >> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> >> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> >> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> >> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> > interest"...
>
> We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
> weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
> argument.
Give an example...
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
ZnU wrote:
> In article <calvin-77962B.08110411062008@news.goldengate.net>,
> Calvin <calvin@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>
>>> David Moyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>>>
>>>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>>> device to just $200
>>>
>>> Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
>>>
>>>
>>> , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
>>>
>>> Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>>
>>> Still a fashion accessory, no more.
>> This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF?
>
> MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
> high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
> real e-mail with attachments?
So you can communicate with people in the real world who have MMS
capabilites (only).
In article <ocmdnV3kyNFS_s3VnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > In article <calvin-77962B.08110411062008@news.goldengate.net>,
> > Calvin <calvin@microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> >> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >>
> >>> David Moyer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >>>>
> >>>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> >>>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >>>> device to just $200
> >>>
> >>> Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> >>>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
> >>>
> >>> Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
> >>>
> >>> Still a fashion accessory, no more.
> >> This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF?
> >
> > MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
> > high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
> > real e-mail with attachments?
>
> So you can communicate with people in the real world who have MMS
> capabilites (only).
>
> Steve
Gee...
If only someone could figure out how to make a device automatically
convert an email message into an MMS message and vice versa...
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-28A250.16272211062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <8JOdnRNVgaNMqM3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
>> > In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
>> > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
>> >> >planet.
>> >> >
>> >> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>> >> >
>> >> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner
>> >> >rather
>> >> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> >> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
>> >> >in
>> >> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons
>> >> >to
>> >> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> >> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> >> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once
>> >> >you've
>> >> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're
>> >> >settling
>> >> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>> >> >
>> >> >much more here....
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>> >>
>> >> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
>> >> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
>> >> that
>> >> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
>> >> one
>> >> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
>> >> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
>> >> comments. "
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3da9cee4d6a3?d
>> >> mod
>> >> e=source
>> >>
>> >> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....dbea6948ceef?d
>> >> mod
>> >> e=source
>> >>
>> >> Among many others.
>> >>
>> >> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
>> >> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
>> >> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
>> >> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
>> > interest"...
>>
>> We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
>> weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
>> argument.
>
> Give an example...
> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft EXCHANGE,
> not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS Exchange. My business
> needs are not that sophisticated. The BB syncs directly with MS Outlook
> without Exchange.
nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
exchange server.
In article <OI-dnS1HDcMzHs3VnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-28A250.16272211062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > In article <8JOdnRNVgaNMqM3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> >> > In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> >> > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
> >> >> >planet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner
> >> >> >rather
> >> >> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >> >> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
> >> >> >in
> >> >> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >> >> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >> >> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once
> >> >> >you've
> >> >> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're
> >> >> >settling
> >> >> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >much more here....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >> >>
> >> >> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> >> >> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> >> >> that
> >> >> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> >> >> one
> >> >> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> >> >> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> >> >> comments. "
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....de33da9cee4d6a
> >> >> 3?d
> >> >> mod
> >> >> e=source
> >> >>
> >> >> &q
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