Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!

"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).

I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
the group.

It's obviously very exciting that world is about to see the first
universal phone, and FINALLY with the most applications people can
actually use.

This is a milestone event for everyone that owns a cell phone. Ness,
you'll get an iphone soon enough, don't worry!

The iPhone application base as of today is 1,886, and on launch day it
will be over 4,000... I as you, can't wait to get rid of all those
obsolete Symbian, Blackberry, WinMobile devices! And once they are gone
and true opensource on the iPhone reigns, the world will be a better
place!

http://www.apple.com/webapps/

more here:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/i...-the-apple-cub
e-one-week-early/

and here:

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/7/i...-forms-at-nyc-
apple-store-aapl-

come join the party!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

-

Ness - 1 group penalty!

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-42D543.20034304072008
@news.qwest.net:

> http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/i...-the-apple-cub

When FCC held public meetings Comcast didn't want the public to attend,
Comcast hired "Seat Warmers" to occupy all the seats in the meeting hall to
prevent the general public, fed up with Comcrap and its attitude, from
attending and expressing their views to the Commission.

......One wonders how many seat warmers Apple may have hired to stand in
line outside major Apple stores as advertising gimmicks for the new
FruitFone, making it look to the most stupid and naive public driving by
that there is huge demand for a $600 sellphone toy that doesn't really do
anything except eat money.

Sure would love to get a look inside that Apple store's accounting programs
to see what they're charging it to.....(c;

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message news:apony-42D543.20034304072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.
>

It ISN"T of "interest to everyone" - you cross post to places your crap
ISN"T WANTED! A.C.V is a group I've been in WAY before you tainted
it with your fanboi shit- and YOU gave the gall to tell me to leave it??

> It's obviously very exciting that world is about to see the first
> universal phone, and FINALLY with the most applications people can
> actually use.
>
> This is a milestone event for everyone that owns a cell phone. Ness,
> you'll get an iphone soon enough, don't worry!

OK - newsflash - I actually had one - free in fact. But, I gave it back.
For many reasons I have previously mentioned - So, nice try, but wrong - again.
>
> The iPhone application base as of today is 1,886, and on launch day it
> will be over 4,000... I as you, can't wait to get rid of all those
> obsolete Symbian, Blackberry, WinMobile devices! And once they are gone
> and true opensource on the iPhone reigns, the world will be a better
> place!

You are not only a rabit fanboi - you are a fucking idiot as well.
As soon as you spew shit like above - it shows you don't actually have a clue.
>

>
> Ness - 1 group penalty!

Oxy - 1st place for fanboi MORON!

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
42D543.20034304072008@news.qwest.net:

> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.

You are not able to provide any evidence to back this statement up.
Therefore, you should leave the group.

>
> It's obviously very exciting that world is about to see the first
> universal phone,

A Blackberry?

> and FINALLY with the most applications people can
> actually use.

Not according to you. You said the majority of application you saw were
advanced medical and engineering apps.

>
> This is a milestone event for everyone that owns a cell phone. Ness,
> you'll get an iphone soon enough, don't worry!

The only milestone will be the collective yawn and the new fire sale
mentality Apple takes after the inital hoopla is over.

>

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/i...-the-apple-cub
>
> When FCC held public meetings Comcast didn't want the public to attend,
> Comcast hired "Seat Warmers" to occupy all the seats in the meeting hall to
> prevent the general public, fed up with Comcrap and its attitude, from
> attending and expressing their views to the Commission.

ah, larry, apple hasn't spent a single "cent" on seat warmers in all of
its 32 year history. the enthusiasm comes from one place, and one place
only...

great products!

> .....One wonders how many seat warmers Apple may have hired to stand in
> line outside major Apple stores as advertising gimmicks for the new
> FruitFone, making it look to the most stupid and naive public driving by
> that there is huge demand for a $600 sellphone toy that doesn't really do
> anything except eat money.
>
> Sure would love to get a look inside that Apple store's accounting programs
> to see what they're charging it to.....(c;

sounds like you are jealous of someone having a vastly better products
than what Nokia can come up with.

Nobody disputes that Apple has the best cell phones, it's only people
like you that are bitter that the "old cell" world is collapsing, being
"ENTIRELY" remade by Apple into a more positive image for everyone
involved.

you'll get an iPhone soon enough! so don't worry!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

In message <apony-386323.21420804072008@news.qwest.net> Oxford
<apony@pasture.com> wrote:

>Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> > http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/i...-the-apple-cub
>>
>> When FCC held public meetings Comcast didn't want the public to attend,
>> Comcast hired "Seat Warmers" to occupy all the seats in the meeting hall to
>> prevent the general public, fed up with Comcrap and its attitude, from
>> attending and expressing their views to the Commission.
>
>ah, larry, apple hasn't spent a single "cent" on seat warmers in all of
>its 32 year history. the enthusiasm comes from one place, and one place
>only...

Mindless obedience to "think different" just like Apple tells you?

>great products!

Oh, so close!

>> .....One wonders how many seat warmers Apple may have hired to stand in
>> line outside major Apple stores as advertising gimmicks for the new
>> FruitFone, making it look to the most stupid and naive public driving by
>> that there is huge demand for a $600 sellphone toy that doesn't really do
>> anything except eat money.
>>
>> Sure would love to get a look inside that Apple store's accounting programs
>> to see what they're charging it to.....(c;
>
>sounds like you are jealous of someone having a vastly better products
>than what Nokia can come up with.

You couldn't pay me to own a Nokia until they take some basic UI design
lessons.

>Nobody disputes that Apple has the best cell phones,

I do.

>it's only people
>like you that are bitter that the "old cell" world is collapsing, being
>"ENTIRELY" remade by Apple into a more positive image for everyone
>involved.

Entirely remade?

Oh, like the revenue sharing? Or the limited choice in plans? Or the
"active at home" scheme?

Oxford wrote:
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.
>

No interest to me or lots of folks I know.

What is really sad is how someone can let a device define their life.
Your knees may get wobbly when you think about iphones but I can assure
you there are lots of normal folks who are not fanbois who really don't
care about iphones. You really only make yourself look juvenile and
clueless like a teenage girl obsessed over some rock star.



It's obviously very exciting that world is about to see the first
> universal phone, and FINALLY with the most applications people can
> actually use.
>
> This is a milestone event for everyone that owns a cell phone. Ness,
> you'll get an iphone soon enough, don't worry!
>
> The iPhone application base as of today is 1,886, and on launch day it
> will be over 4,000... I as you, can't wait to get rid of all those
> obsolete Symbian, Blackberry, WinMobile devices! And once they are gone
> and true opensource on the iPhone reigns, the world will be a better
> place!
>
> http://www.apple.com/webapps/
>
> more here:
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/i...-the-apple-cub
> e-one-week-early/
>
> and here:
>
> http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/7/i...-forms-at-nyc-
> apple-store-aapl-
>
> come join the party!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> -
>
> Ness - 1 group penalty!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> schreef in bericht
news:apony-42D543.20034304072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.

Hey weirdo, if it is to interest to everyone, and somebody don`t like it,
it is NOT for everyone, leaving the group won`t change that either.

On Jul 5, 12:03*pm, Oxford <ap...@pasture.com> wrote:
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nod...@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
> > And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.
>
You seem to be the only one of that opinion. This is a Nokia group so
it is to be expected most people have interest in Nokias. If we wanted
to know about Apple crap we'd have joined an apple group! Perhaps the
sort of person who buys iPhones is not the sort who can work out the
difference between newsgroups - most Nokia buyers presumably have more
intelligence!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message news:apony-42D543.20034304072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> And the HYPE begins..... (along with Oxy's rabid FANBOI crap).
>
> I only post news of interest to everyone, if you don't like it, leave
> the group.
>

See... look below Oxy, lots of other folks don't want to see this shit either.
That certainly does NOT make "everyone"...

And, BTW, not a single post supporting you...

Maybe take your OWN 'advice' and "leave"...? Please?

In article <486f83d2$0$7347$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Well, while it's hard to deny these days that Apple's products are perhaps
> "great", let us not forget that Apple was on the verge of bankruptcy perhaps
> 5 years ago. Macs weren't selling and few people were interested. I believe
> it was Microsoft who bailed them out (I'm open to correction on the
> specifics) because they would have been left as a "monopoly", a bad thing
> with government regulation. Then the iPod came along and Apple's fortunes
> changed, almost overnight.

apple was never close to bankruptcy, if you remember... on their darkest
day, they had $1.1 billion in cash and no long term debt. but yes, they
did go through a several year period of slowing sales some 12 years ago.

the iMac turned everything around, not the iPod. and no, Microsoft had
to pay Apple for software thefts in 1997, but it was a small amount,
something like $150 million.

> While I love gadgets, and really want to own an iPhone just because I'm a
> gadget nut, I still find them to be more hype than substance when it comes
> to business use. Apple is still up to its old tricks of limiting what the
> device is allowed to do. Its failure to sync completely, easily, and
> INEXPENSIVELY with Outlook on a PC, for example, is a major drawback for me.
> The fact that software "fixes" for a problem like that add significant
> additional cost to the device is arrogant to me, and, I think, is what did
> Apple in in the first place. And those "fixes" are not even complete fixes,
> which makes it even worse.

but all that changes July 11th, everyone can now build apps for the
iPhone, you can get started here:

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/

> Explain to me why my Blackberry Curve (on Verizon) isn't a "better" device
> than the iPhone for practical use?

it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
significant developer base.

> It's a great phone, plays all my mp3s
> and iTunes, has a good camera with a flash, and a video recorder, is more
> compact, does email very well (though not all attachments), syncs 100% with
> MS Outlook on a PC for FREE, has very usable, and fast internet access,
> albeit not with all that pinch and slide techno-gimmickry. Tell me, who's
> really going to sit on their iPhone and do internet access all day? No
> matter how cool the iPhone appears to do it, the device is still too small
> for the kind of comfort you get from a laptop or desktop for long-term
> browsing.
>
> I wonder if the iPhone is really going to take over and change the cell
> phone industry or whether it will crash and burn with time as most consumers
> will find they really don't want or need to do the stuff the iPhone offers?
> And that is not to diminish my admittedly own personal fascination with the
> device while it's relatively new. Time will tell.

The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.

The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.

-

Oxford wrote:

> In article <486f83d2$0$7347$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
[...]
>> I wonder if the iPhone is really going to take over and change the cell
>> phone industry or whether it will crash and burn with time as most consumers
>> will find they really don't want or need to do the stuff the iPhone offers?
>> And that is not to diminish my admittedly own personal fascination with the
>> device while it's relatively new. Time will tell.
>
> The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
> centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
> starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>
> The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.

I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
departments will allow them. He said making sure that vendors and other
visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
thing, Apple...

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

In article <xu45j7mvyt0n$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> > The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.
>
> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
> departments will allow them.

the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.


> He said making sure that vendors and other
> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
> thing, Apple...

Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.

Oxford wrote:

> In article <xu45j7mvyt0n$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
> Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:
>
>>> The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.
>>
>> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
>> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
>> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
>> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
>> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
>> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
>> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
>> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
>> departments will allow them.
>
> the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.

Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.

>> He said making sure that vendors and other
>> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
>> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
>> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
>> thing, Apple...
>
> Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.

By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-732CB9.14173205072008@news.qwest.net:

> In article <486f83d2$0$7347$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>

>
>> Explain to me why my Blackberry Curve (on Verizon) isn't a "better"
>> device than the iPhone for practical use?
>
> it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
> significant developer base.
>

Your opinion means nothing- you've never used one. The application
inventory for Balckberry dwarfs anything that the iPhone has. And before
you stick your foot in it further- you need to investigate more than the
Blackberry site to find them all.

More lies from the Oxtard.

Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> >> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
> >> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
> >> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
> >> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
> >> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
> >> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
> >> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
> >> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
> >> departments will allow them.
> >
> > the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.
>
> Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
> be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.

then get them without the camera. if a company wants 10,000 of them,
apple will sell them that way. just ask.

or buy a $25 dremel drill for a permanent fix.

> >> He said making sure that vendors and other
> >> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
> >> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
> >> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
> >> thing, Apple...
> >
> > Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.
>
> By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?

apple has given them what they want, central camera disabling, central
erase, what else do you want them (or any camera vendor) to do?

Oxford wrote:

> Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:
>
>>>> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
>>>> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
>>>> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
>>>> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
>>>> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
>>>> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
>>>> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
>>>> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
>>>> departments will allow them.
>>>
>>> the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.
>>
>> Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
>> be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.
>
> then get them without the camera. if a company wants 10,000 of them,
> apple will sell them that way. just ask.

When Apple gets smart enough to offer version without a camera to
enterprise users, the way RIM did with the 8800 series, then maybe the
Iphone will merit some consideration.

> or buy a $25 dremel drill for a permanent fix.

Sure, that ought to do wonders for the warranty.

>>>> He said making sure that vendors and other
>>>> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
>>>> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
>>>> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
>>>> thing, Apple...
>>>
>>> Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.
>>
>> By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?
>
> apple has given them what they want, central camera disabling, central
> erase, what else do you want them (or any camera vendor) to do?

They'll have to eliminate the camera completely if they want to sell to
the largest market segment in the world. As it is, their target market
is just consumers looking for the latest new gadget. Maybe that's why
AT&T had to give them the largest subsidy of any smartphone. They knew
they couldn't sell them otherwise.

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

In article <Xns9AD2AAC3D517Ebob@216.196.97.136>,
The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
> > significant developer base.
> >
>
> Your opinion means nothing- you've never used one. The application
> inventory for Balckberry dwarfs anything that the iPhone has. And before
> you stick your foot in it further- you need to investigate more than the
> Blackberry site to find them all.

I had several clients with them before the iPhone appeared. Now we all
laugh at how primitive they were.

The app library is miniscule compared to the iPhone. 4,000 apps by July
11, and everyone better than what is available on a BB.

it's like a ghost town:

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/

compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/webapps/index.html

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message news:apony-732CB9.14173205072008@news.qwest.net...

>
> The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
> centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
> starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>

It's statements like the above absurdity that takes you from mere fanboi to complete idiot.
It's one thing talking about a product (or company) you like. It's totally another thing when you
pull crap directly out of you ass like the above.

Remember your wi-fi predictions that have crashed and burned?
Remember how you po-pooed 3G because your jesus phone didn't have it.
I can go on and on recounting the asinine shit you have posted.

Bottom line OxTARD - you don't even have an actual clue, do you?

STFU and go away - please.

In article <1olfivbwadbt6$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> >> Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
> >> be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.
> >
> > then get them without the camera. if a company wants 10,000 of them,
> > apple will sell them that way. just ask.
>
> When Apple gets smart enough to offer version without a camera to
> enterprise users, the way RIM did with the 8800 series, then maybe the
> Iphone will merit some consideration.

apple can sell them without cameras, just ask.

> > or buy a $25 dremel drill for a permanent fix.
>
> Sure, that ought to do wonders for the warranty.

what? burnishing the lens would not affect the warranty.

> >>>> He said making sure that vendors and other
> >>>> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
> >>>> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
> >>>> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
> >>>> thing, Apple...
> >>>
> >>> Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.
> >>
> >> By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?
> >
> > apple has given them what they want, central camera disabling, central
> > erase, what else do you want them (or any camera vendor) to do?
>
> They'll have to eliminate the camera completely if they want to sell to
> the largest market segment in the world. As it is, their target market
> is just consumers looking for the latest new gadget. Maybe that's why
> AT&T had to give them the largest subsidy of any smartphone. They knew
> they couldn't sell them otherwise.

largest segment in the world? not even close. the companies needing that
level of security only represent a couple 100,000 units at most. it's a
yawner of a segment if you are concerned about sales.

if a company needs mass iphone deployment, just ask apple for no camera,
or disable the camera. both are easy to do.

Oxford wrote:



Enuf AAPL "advocacy".

If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.

WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.

If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
more people off.

"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

> > The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
> > centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
> > starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>
> It's statements like the above absurdity that takes you from mere fanboi to
> complete idiot.

nah, you just aren't a student of history like I am. The Blackberry is
fast becoming the Diamond Rio, the iPhone is just too popular for them
to continue.

you'll see!

> It's one thing talking about a product (or company) you like. It's totally
> another thing when you
> pull crap directly out of you ass like the above.

It's based on solid historical research, I'm just the messenger.

> Remember your wi-fi predictions that have crashed and burned?
> Remember how you po-pooed 3G because your jesus phone didn't have it.
> I can go on and on recounting the asinine shit you have posted.
>
> Bottom line OxTARD - you don't even have an actual clue, do you?
>
> STFU and go away - please.

Ah, but my WiFi predictions have come true, a year later you can go
pretty much anywhere and have free WiFi, and this continues at an ever
accelerating rate. WiMax continues to gather steam as well, so having
the slow, battery eating 3G won't matter to most people with iPhones.

News <News@Group.name> wrote:

> Enuf AAPL "advocacy".
>
> If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.
>
> WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.
>
> If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
> more people off.

you just can't handle the truth.

someday, you too will move up to a Mac & iPhone, but until then, you'll
continue to suffer with windows & winmobile.

grow up News!

News wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
>
> Enuf AAPL "advocacy".
>
> If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.
>
> WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.
>
> If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
> more people off.

If I though he was a representative of Apple instead of just a wannabe
sucking on Steve Job's butt, I would never consider owning another Apple
product. As it is, he's completely cured me of any latent desire I might
have had for an Iphone.

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

Oxford wrote:
> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>Enuf AAPL "advocacy".
>>
>>If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.
>>
>>WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.
>>
>>If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
>>more people off.
>
>
> you just can't handle the truth.
>
> someday, you too will move up to a Mac & iPhone, but until then, you'll
> continue to suffer with windows & winmobile.
>
> grow up News!


QED

"Dutch" <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote in message news:1kcor30n2e31v.dlg@blackholespam.net...
> News wrote:
>
>> Oxford wrote:
>>
>> Enuf AAPL "advocacy".
>>
>> If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.
>>
>> WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.
>>
>> If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
>> more people off.
>
> If I though he was a representative of Apple instead of just a wannabe
> sucking on Steve Job's butt, I would never consider owning another Apple
> product. As it is, he's completely cured me of any latent desire I might
> have had for an Iphone.
>
> --
> Dutch
> Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
> tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

We figured out he was some low level clerk or most likely stockboy at a
backwater Apple store...

With SEVERE delusions of grandeur.. along with the rest of the various
mental illnesses that become quite obvious if one reads the crap he posts.
>

In article <elmop-621286.21013605072008@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> > the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.
>
> Tell that to the Marine who refuses to let you into the facility he has
> the responsibility for guarding.
>
> Fact: no one will ever believe you when you say "oh, but it's been
> disabled in software, don't worry".

but in a corporate environment, with corporate issued iphones, it's
plenty.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message news:apony-5B55BF.17510805072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> > The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
>> > centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
>> > starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>>
>> It's statements like the above absurdity that takes you from mere fanboi to
>> complete idiot.
>
> nah, you just aren't a student of history like I am. The Blackberry is
> fast becoming the Diamond Rio, the iPhone is just too popular for them
> to continue.
>
> you'll see!

The only thing I see (and many others) is a clueless, rabid fabboi.
With NOTHING to back up the complete bull shit he spews...
Student of history - my ass. Pre-school, at best. Or short bus...?
>
>> It's one thing talking about a product (or company) you like. It's totally
>> another thing when you
>> pull crap directly out of you ass like the above.
>
> It's based on solid historical research, I'm just the messenger.

You are an idiot - nothing more. Certainly not a "messenger"...
Absolutely no "history" at all to back up anythjing you say.
Not a shred.

>
>> Remember your wi-fi predictions that have crashed and burned?
>> Remember how you po-pooed 3G because your jesus phone didn't have it.
>> I can go on and on recounting the asinine shit you have posted.
>>
>> Bottom line OxTARD - you don't even have an actual clue, do you?
>>
>> STFU and go away - please.
>
> Ah, but my WiFi predictions have come true, a year later you can go
> pretty much anywhere and have free WiFi, and this continues at an ever
> accelerating rate. WiMax continues to gather steam as well, so having
> the slow, battery eating 3G won't matter to most people with iPhones.

BZZZZZT - Wrong!!
Your "WiFi predictions" have NOT come true - the exact opposite. Almost
all of the muni WiFi projects have failed. Crash and burned you dolt.

WiFi has gone nowhere - and it won't. Then you (still) are wrong about 3G.
It (may) be what actually makes a difference worldwide with your beloved
ifruit phone - I find it extremely laughable that the actual thing that (may)
help the damn thing is the thing you are negative about above. More proof
that you don't have even a single clue.

BTW, WiMax is a completely different animal (NOT WiFi) and the jury is out.
Sprint and Clearwire might pull it off - but then your beloved ifruit phone is
exclusively AT&T - it will NEVER work on WiMax in the near future anyway.
You are again very unclear of what you are talking about - as always.

Oxy, you make it so easy!!

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-7BCCD9.20302605072008@news.qwest.net...
> In article <elmop-621286.21013605072008@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> > the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.
>>
>> Tell that to the Marine who refuses to let you into the facility he
>> has
>> the responsibility for guarding.
>>
>> Fact: no one will ever believe you when you say "oh, but it's been
>> disabled in software, don't worry".
>
> but in a corporate environment, with corporate issued iphones, it's
> plenty.

Thank you for that statement. It proves positively that you know nothing
about corporate security. Telling a guard that "it's disabled in
software" will do nothing. If there is a lens on the device, whether
"burnished with a Dremel" or "disabled in software," (your suggestions -
not Apple's) you will not carry it past the guard station. That's like
telling a TSA agent that the gun you're carrying doesn't have a firing
pin. And lest you think that the market for non-camera phones id limited
to a couple hundred thousand, you again prove that you know little, if
anything, about corporate security that affects MILLIONS of employees.

Oxford, I have one question for you for which I already know you will
give a non-responsive answer: In light of the fact that absolutely no
one - not one single post - on any of the many NG's you have posted to
has agreed with anything you have to say why do you continue to spout
such nonsense? Are you being paid to do this? Do you get off on the
abuse? The IPhone is designed for fanbois just like you - be happy, feel
superior to us, and enjoy your new toy du jour. The rest of us luddites
will just continue to toil away in the darkness with products we've
found to meet our own unique needs.

When the first iPhone came out you told us that it was "game over" and
all the other carriers would disappear as well as all the other cell
phone makers. That hasn't happened yet and is not about to anytime
soon. You were wrong then and nothing has changed.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-288883.17270205072008@news.qwest.net:

> In article <Xns9AD2AAC3D517Ebob@216.196.97.136>,
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
>> > significant developer base.
>> >
>>
>> Your opinion means nothing- you've never used one. The application
>> inventory for Balckberry dwarfs anything that the iPhone has. And
>> before you stick your foot in it further- you need to investigate
>> more than the Blackberry site to find them all.
>
> I had several clients with them before the iPhone appeared. Now we all
> laugh at how primitive they were.

Apple store janitors have clients? I don't want to ask....

>
> The app library is miniscule compared to the iPhone. 4,000 apps by
> July 11, and everyone better than what is available on a BB.
>
> it's like a ghost town:
>
> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/
>
> compared to this:
>
> http://www.apple.com/webapps/index.html

You can't read reall well, can you? You need to look further than that,
newbie.

>