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Old 01-31-2008, 04:05 AM
Gene Jones
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> > > actually, it seems like a perfect balance. congrats to apple for
> > > building such a powerful, but thin machine.

> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > Classic embarrassing adolescent fanboy behaviour.

>
> It might very well be, but for the Road Warrior who's already been to
> an Orthopedic Surgeon for taking care of a back problem ... or an
> inflamed sciatic nerve ... which was aggravated by lugging that
> "anchor" laptop through a hundred airports and a half million airline
> miles, saving weight takes on an entirely different meaning.
>
> I'd venture to opine that 99% of the nay-sayers are waaaaaay short of
> racking up their first million frequent flier miles, and for the 1%
> that have, they're the "rolling wheeled briefcase with too much crap
> in it that never gets carried, but simply thrown in the rental car
> trunk" types. Sorry, but the staircases on mass transit systems
> worldwide kill off that configuration scheme faster than a meteor
> killed off the dinosaurs.


yes, it is entirely interesting that the few detractors of MacBook Air
don't hold enough position in society to actually own one.

there is no doubt the MacBook Air is the finest achievement of the human
race since the printed book. So to any Doctor, Dentist, successful
Businessman or Land owner... you instantly have a several orders.

So sure, it's not for a college kid, or a PC user that isn't used to
having the best. BUT for the millions of TOP achieving people in the
world, it's the summation of 500 decades come true.

check it out if you haven't seen this... trust me, you have NO IDEA what
is going on. Apple has once again changed all the rules for a small
portable Cell/Wireless/Web/Office device.

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:43 PM
larry
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Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote in news:jasin-6428C2.22054730012008
@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> yes, it is entirely interesting that the few detractors of MacBook Air
> don't hold enough position in society to actually own one.
>
>


Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
glasses you're wearing?

I'm sure the same people buying iPhones will love the Air appliance. But,
somewhere around 90% of the personal computer software ISN'T written to run
on it. That, alone, is reason enough to NOT buy one. People buy computers
compatible with the SOFTWARE they want to run, not because it's 2mm thick,
has no battery you can change without factory service, and is cute as hell.

As with all proprietary Apple products, I think you'll find more than a
"few detractors". I'm not sure what percent are Apple users, but compared
to Micro$oft, it isn't even worth mentioning.

Apple is going in the internet APPLIANCE business. Air is another example
of it. They're trying to take away your ability to install and run
software independent of the BOX OFFICE window. It hasn't worked in the
past. I don't think that's going to work now, no matter how cute they make
it. It doesn't have a CD/DVD writer in it for a REASON that's NOT related
to cute.....

By the way, I'm a Linux user, not a Micro$oft lover. The software I want
to run is written for Linux, but I also own 3 large PC's running WinXP
because there is software I want to run that uses Micro$oft's OS, too.

Buying some cute computer FIRST isn't very smart. You get the SOFTWARE you
want that does what you want, FIRST, then buy hardware and operating system
that runs it.....not the other way around....

Oh, please spare me the Windows Emulator On Mac nonsense.....the common
answer.


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Old 01-31-2008, 03:43 PM
Paul Russell
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larry wrote:
> Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote in news:jasin-6428C2.22054730012008
> @mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:
>
>> yes, it is entirely interesting that the few detractors of MacBook Air
>> don't hold enough position in society to actually own one.
>>
>>

>
> Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
> small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
> glasses you're wearing?
>


While Apple sales may be relatively small compared to the entire Wintel
PC market, that Wintel PC market is fragmented among a large number of
players. Apple is in the top 10 personal computer vendors along with
Dell, HP, et al.

Paul

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Old 01-31-2008, 09:09 PM
Gene Jones
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larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
> small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
> glasses you're wearing?


larry, don't make us laugh. apple has always owned the upper end of the
computing market, today is no different. so what if apple only has 6% of
the market, it's still the most advanced portion of the market, so it
doesn't matter.

> I'm sure the same people buying iPhones will love the Air appliance. But,
> somewhere around 90% of the personal computer software ISN'T written to run
> on it. That, alone, is reason enough to NOT buy one. People buy computers
> compatible with the SOFTWARE they want to run, not because it's 2mm thick,
> has no battery you can change without factory service, and is cute as hell.


what? the MacBook Air runs any software made today. In fact, it runs
MORE software than any PC or Laptop built. Apple builds "universal"
machines, nobody else can do that.

and no, the battery is easy to replace, just 10 small screws and pop out
the old one, pop in the new one. a battery isn't going to go out for
about 4-5 years, so it's hardly an issue. You really made me laugh when
you thought it needed factory service. How dumb are you!

> As with all proprietary Apple products, I think you'll find more than a
> "few detractors". I'm not sure what percent are Apple users, but compared
> to Micro$oft, it isn't even worth mentioning.


There is nothing proprietary about it, the hardware and software is
fully standards based.

> Apple is going in the internet APPLIANCE business. Air is another example
> of it. They're trying to take away your ability to install and run
> software independent of the BOX OFFICE window. It hasn't worked in the
> past. I don't think that's going to work now, no matter how cute they make
> it. It doesn't have a CD/DVD writer in it for a REASON that's NOT related
> to cute.....


no, the MacBook Air is just for the smartest people of the world, so it
won't appeal to you, no biggie from Apple's stand point.

ah, CD/DVD are obsolete, why continue to support a spinning wheel in a
modern computing device. How dumb are you?

> By the way, I'm a Linux user, not a Micro$oft lover. The software I want
> to run is written for Linux, but I also own 3 large PC's running WinXP
> because there is software I want to run that uses Micro$oft's OS, too.


So you don't have high standards, that's okay.... but don't mistakenly
think that since you can't afford high quality computing equipment that
you are superior, fact is, you are using the bottom of the barrel
computing code and hardware.

> Buying some cute computer FIRST isn't very smart. You get the SOFTWARE you
> want that does what you want, FIRST, then buy hardware and operating system
> that runs it.....not the other way around....


Yes, you always buy the software first, good, at least you know that!
But if you buy a Mac, you can run ANY software, but if you buy a Windows
or Linux PC you are stuck. Only a Mac can run ANY program made in the
last 30 years.

> Oh, please spare me the Windows Emulator On Mac nonsense.....the common
> answer.


Emulators? Why would you ever need an emulator, Macs run ANY software
and full speed, even faster in some cases than Windows or Linux can run
them at.

I think you need to learn what Apple has done over the last 10 years
since you info seems to be dated to 1998.

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Old 02-01-2008, 01:11 AM
Steve de Mena
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Gene Jones wrote:
> larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
>> small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
>> glasses you're wearing?

>
> larry, don't make us laugh. apple has always owned the upper end of the
> computing market, today is no different. so what if apple only has 6% of
> the market, it's still the most advanced portion of the market, so it
> doesn't matter.
>
>> I'm sure the same people buying iPhones will love the Air appliance. But,
>> somewhere around 90% of the personal computer software ISN'T written to run
>> on it. That, alone, is reason enough to NOT buy one. People buy computers
>> compatible with the SOFTWARE they want to run, not because it's 2mm thick,
>> has no battery you can change without factory service, and is cute as hell.

>
> what? the MacBook Air runs any software made today. In fact, it runs
> MORE software than any PC or Laptop built. Apple builds "universal"
> machines, nobody else can do that.
>
> and no, the battery is easy to replace, just 10 small screws and pop out
> the old one, pop in the new one. a battery isn't going to go out for
> about 4-5 years, so it's hardly an issue.


Yeah, try bringing a spare battery and swapping it out on an airplane
flight or in the middle of a presentation.

>> As with all proprietary Apple products, I think you'll find more than a
>> "few detractors". I'm not sure what percent are Apple users, but compared
>> to Micro$oft, it isn't even worth mentioning.

>
> There is nothing proprietary about it, the hardware and software is
> fully standards based.


I think you actually believe that.


>> Oh, please spare me the Windows Emulator On Mac nonsense.....the common
>> answer.

>
> Emulators? Why would you ever need an emulator, Macs run ANY software
> and full speed, even faster in some cases than Windows or Linux can run
> them at.
>
> I think you need to learn what Apple has done over the last 10 years
> since you info seems to be dated to 1998.


Macs can't run "ANY software".

Steve

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Old 02-01-2008, 07:25 PM
Alan Baker
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In article <Xns9A366DA667C77noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote in news:jasin-6428C2.22054730012008
> @mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:
>
> > yes, it is entirely interesting that the few detractors of MacBook Air
> > don't hold enough position in society to actually own one.
> >
> >

>
> Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
> small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
> glasses you're wearing?
>
> I'm sure the same people buying iPhones will love the Air appliance. But,
> somewhere around 90% of the personal computer software ISN'T written to run
> on it. That, alone, is reason enough to NOT buy one. People buy computers
> compatible with the SOFTWARE they want to run, not because it's 2mm thick,
> has no battery you can change without factory service, and is cute as hell.


Perhaps you've not heard of Boot Camp...

....or Parallels

....or VMWare Fusion

>
> As with all proprietary Apple products, I think you'll find more than a
> "few detractors". I'm not sure what percent are Apple users, but compared
> to Micro$oft, it isn't even worth mentioning.
>
> Apple is going in the internet APPLIANCE business. Air is another example
> of it. They're trying to take away your ability to install and run
> software independent of the BOX OFFICE window. It hasn't worked in the
> past. I don't think that's going to work now, no matter how cute they make
> it. It doesn't have a CD/DVD writer in it for a REASON that's NOT related
> to cute.....


Exactly what does "the BOX OFFICE window" mean?

>
> By the way, I'm a Linux user, not a Micro$oft lover. The software I want
> to run is written for Linux, but I also own 3 large PC's running WinXP
> because there is software I want to run that uses Micro$oft's OS, too.


If you had a Mac, you could run Linux, Windows and Mac OS X all on one
system (and at the same time if you wanted).

>
> Buying some cute computer FIRST isn't very smart. You get the SOFTWARE you
> want that does what you want, FIRST, then buy hardware and operating system
> that runs it.....not the other way around....
>
> Oh, please spare me the Windows Emulator On Mac nonsense.....the common
> answer.


Why? It's not a "Windows Emulator On Mac" at all.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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Old 02-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Alan Baker
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In article <XKednbFn-oZb4j_anZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:

> Gene Jones wrote:
> > larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Don't you find it just a little curious that Apple products are such a
> >> small percentage of the overall computer market....even in those Apple
> >> glasses you're wearing?

> >
> > larry, don't make us laugh. apple has always owned the upper end of the
> > computing market, today is no different. so what if apple only has 6% of
> > the market, it's still the most advanced portion of the market, so it
> > doesn't matter.
> >
> >> I'm sure the same people buying iPhones will love the Air appliance. But,
> >> somewhere around 90% of the personal computer software ISN'T written to
> >> run
> >> on it. That, alone, is reason enough to NOT buy one. People buy
> >> computers
> >> compatible with the SOFTWARE they want to run, not because it's 2mm thick,
> >> has no battery you can change without factory service, and is cute as
> >> hell.

> >
> > what? the MacBook Air runs any software made today. In fact, it runs
> > MORE software than any PC or Laptop built. Apple builds "universal"
> > machines, nobody else can do that.
> >
> > and no, the battery is easy to replace, just 10 small screws and pop out
> > the old one, pop in the new one. a battery isn't going to go out for
> > about 4-5 years, so it's hardly an issue.

>
> Yeah, try bringing a spare battery and swapping it out on an airplane
> flight or in the middle of a presentation.


So very shortly someone is going to offer an external battery...

>
> >> As with all proprietary Apple products, I think you'll find more than a
> >> "few detractors". I'm not sure what percent are Apple users, but compared
> >> to Micro$oft, it isn't even worth mentioning.

> >
> > There is nothing proprietary about it, the hardware and software is
> > fully standards based.

>
> I think you actually believe that.


What is proprietary, then?

>
>
> >> Oh, please spare me the Windows Emulator On Mac nonsense.....the common
> >> answer.

> >
> > Emulators? Why would you ever need an emulator, Macs run ANY software
> > and full speed, even faster in some cases than Windows or Linux can run
> > them at.
> >
> > I think you need to learn what Apple has done over the last 10 years
> > since you info seems to be dated to 1998.

>
> Macs can't run "ANY software".


No. Not "ANY", I agree.

Just Mac OS X (PPC and Intel)...

....Unix...

....Windows...

....Linux...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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