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Old 01-25-2010, 06:46 PM
3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES!
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Analyst: All Carriers May Get to Sell IPhone
from BusinessWeek Online --

Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
next 18 months, doubling or tripling the number of devices sold, said
Tim Horan, a telecommunications analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...imer-says.html

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Old 01-25-2010, 06:50 PM
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3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! wrote:

> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> next 18 months, doubling or tripling


....the iToy churn, maybe.

Haven't all prospective fanbois accelerated already their fantasies and
purchased?

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Old 01-25-2010, 08:01 PM
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In article <92e361b7-5015-468d-bf74-ee6a1c955a84
@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, vic.healey@gmail.com says...
>
> Analyst: All Carriers May Get to Sell IPhone
> from BusinessWeek Online --
>
> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> next 18 months, doubling or tripling the number of devices sold, said
> Tim Horan, a telecommunications analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...imer-says.html



I did actually see something interesting here: the claim that an iPhone
will be released to run on Clearwire...

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Old 01-25-2010, 10:25 PM
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In article <e8WdnQV3w8eMa8DWnZ2dnUVZ_tti4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:

> 3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! wrote:
>
> > Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> > next 18 months, doubling or tripling

>
> ...the iToy churn, maybe.
>
> Haven't all prospective fanbois accelerated already their fantasies and
> purchased?


Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:
<http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...rearnings_2010
..html>. How many fanboys do you think there are?

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Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:36 PM
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In article <tph-A8D68F.16253625012010@localhost>, Tom Harrington
<tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
> last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...rearnings_2010
> .html>. How many fanboys do you think there are?


8.7 million, obviously

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Old 01-25-2010, 10:50 PM
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Tom Harrington wrote:
> In article <e8WdnQV3w8eMa8DWnZ2dnUVZ_tti4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> 3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! wrote:
>>
>>> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
>>> next 18 months, doubling or tripling

>> ...the iToy churn, maybe.
>>
>> Haven't all prospective fanbois accelerated already their fantasies and
>> purchased?

>
> Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
> last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:



And way below analyst expectations; fanboi gulch is drying up.

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Old 01-25-2010, 10:51 PM
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nospam wrote:
> In article <tph-A8D68F.16253625012010@localhost>, Tom Harrington
> <tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
>
>> Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
>> last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:
>> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...rearnings_2010
>> .html>. How many fanboys do you think there are?

>
> 8.7 million, obviously



Way less than analysts expected.

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Old 01-25-2010, 11:45 PM
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In article <QcGdnTCitNT0s8PWnZ2dnUVZ_jFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:

> Tom Harrington wrote:
> > In article <e8WdnQV3w8eMa8DWnZ2dnUVZ_tti4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> > News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
> >
> >> 3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! wrote:
> >>
> >>> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> >>> next 18 months, doubling or tripling
> >> ...the iToy churn, maybe.
> >>
> >> Haven't all prospective fanbois accelerated already their fantasies and
> >> purchased?

> >
> > Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
> > last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:

>
> And way below analyst expectations; fanboi gulch is drying up.


Uh huh, they keep selling more and more, more this time than in any
previous quarter, so that's obviously a sign that things are not going
well.

But seriously, how many fanboys do you think there are?

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Old 01-25-2010, 11:59 PM
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"3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES!" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:92e361b7-5015-468d-bf74-ee6a1c955a84@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> Analyst: All Carriers May Get to Sell IPhone
> from BusinessWeek Online --
>
> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> next 18 months, doubling or tripling the number of devices sold, said
> Tim Horan, a telecommunications analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ase-iphone-to-

all-u-s-carriers-oppenheimer-says.html
>


Market saturation in ATT's tiny footprint of major cities had to happen at
some point. Apple needs to expand iPhone out to the rest of the country to
maintain market share.


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Old 01-26-2010, 01:25 PM
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Tom Harrington wrote:
> In article <QcGdnTCitNT0s8PWnZ2dnUVZ_jFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> Tom Harrington wrote:
>>> In article <e8WdnQV3w8eMa8DWnZ2dnUVZ_tti4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
>>>>> next 18 months, doubling or tripling
>>>> ...the iToy churn, maybe.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't all prospective fanbois accelerated already their fantasies and
>>>> purchased?
>>> Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
>>> last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:

>> And way below analyst expectations; fanboi gulch is drying up.

>
> Uh huh, they keep selling more and more, more this time than in any
> previous quarter, so that's obviously a sign that things are not going
> well.
>
> But seriously, how many fanboys do you think there are?
>



Not as many unique instances as AAPL management is betting the company.

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Old 01-26-2010, 04:21 PM
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Larry wrote:
> "3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES!" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:92e361b7-5015-468d-bf74-ee6a1c955a84@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Analyst: All Carriers May Get to Sell IPhone
>> from BusinessWeek Online --
>>
>> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
>> next 18 months, doubling or tripling the number of devices sold, said
>> Tim Horan, a telecommunications analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.
>>
>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ase-iphone-to-

> all-u-s-carriers-oppenheimer-says.html
>
> Market saturation in ATT's tiny footprint of major cities had to happen at
> some point. Apple needs to expand iPhone out to the rest of the country to
> maintain market share.


Maybe not. First they have to know how many people who would otherwise
buy an iPhone are not doing so because they can't or won't use AT&T. It
does Apple no good if half of AT&T's iPhone users move over to Verizon,
with only a slight increase in sales from subscribers who wanted an
iPhone but only on Verizon. It might be much better to take however many
hundreds of millions of dollars that AT&T is likely offering Apple to
continue the exclusive arrangement.

I used to work for a semiconductor company that made x86
microprocessors. Every time we won a top tier design we _knew_ that it
was not really won until the product was actually in production because
another, much larger x86 company, would offer our customer significant
amounts of money to not use our product; sometimes the customer would
take the money, apologize to us, and go use the competitors
product--sometimes they stuck with us.

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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <QcGdnTOitNQPs8PWnZ2dnUVZ_jFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>>> 8.7 million, obviously

>>
>> Way less than analysts expected.

>
> Only an anti-Apple fanatic can consider doubling the sales from a year
> previously, and a 17.6% increase from the previously highest quarter to be
> negative.


Lacks objectivity.

"According to Wall Street analyst Brian Marshall of Broadpoint Am Tech,
11.3 million units will be sold worldwide in the current three month
period. Marshall had originally expected 10 million iPhones to be sold
in the fourth quarter, so the new estimate represents a nice increase
for Apple. "

The reality is underwhelming.

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News wrote:
> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <QcGdnTOitNQPs8PWnZ2dnUVZ_jFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>>
>>>> 8.7 million, obviously
>>>
>>> Way less than analysts expected.

>>
>> Only an anti-Apple fanatic can consider doubling the sales from a year
>> previously, and a 17.6% increase from the previously highest quarter
>> to be negative.

>
> Lacks objectivity.
>
> "According to Wall Street analyst Brian Marshall of Broadpoint Am Tech,
> 11.3 million units will be sold worldwide in the current three month
> period. Marshall had originally expected 10 million iPhones to be sold
> in the fourth quarter, so the new estimate represents a nice increase
> for Apple. "
>
> The reality is underwhelming.


"Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
what many analysts expected... Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
in a year-over-year comparison.

Apple had an undeniably such a hot quarter that it would seem unfair to
condemn it as bad performance. But the potential is there, particularly
on the way Apple usually neatly steers analyst expectations so it almost
always comes out smelling like an indomitable winner. The iPhone and
iPod details aren’t going to make most market seers happy.

Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. That’s a difference of
600,000, which is significant. And he wasn’t the only one. Kauffman
Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."

Oh, the reality!

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:57 PM
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In article <t72dnfTwKu60FcLWnZ2dnUVZ_gFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> , News
<News@Groups.Name> wrote:

> "Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
> were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
> doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
> what many analysts expected...


the analysts guessed wrong. the fact remains that sales are *up*.

> Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
> in a year-over-year comparison.


ipod sales are being cannibalized by the iphone and ipod touch, not
competing products. market share for the ipod has remained pretty much
at the same level and is increasing in international markets.

> Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
> 9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. That’s a difference of
> 600,000, which is significant.


that's a 6% error, which is not significant.

> And he wasn’t the only one. Kauffman
> Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
> Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."


they're all in the right ballpark.

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:59 PM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <t72dnfTwKu60FcLWnZ2dnUVZ_gFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> Oh, the reality!

>
> The reality is that Apple is happy, its stockholders are happy, people
> buying Apple stock are happy, and Apple's coffers are happy. But fools
> like you can't accept reality.
>


"Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
what many analysts expected... Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
in a year-over-year comparison.

Apple had an undeniably such a hot quarter that it would seem unfair to
condemn it as bad performance. But the potential is there, particularly
on the way Apple usually neatly steers analyst expectations so it almost
always comes out smelling like an indomitable winner. The iPhone and
iPod details aren’t going to make most market seers happy.

Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. That’s a difference of
600,000, which is significant. And he wasn’t the only one. Kauffman
Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."

Oh, the reality!

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:00 AM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <2IadnTthlfCeGMLWnZ2dnUVZ_rdi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>>>>> 8.7 million, obviously
>>>> Way less than analysts expected.
>>> Only an anti-Apple fanatic can consider doubling the sales from a year
>>> previously, and a 17.6% increase from the previously highest quarter
>>> to be negative.

>> Lacks objectivity.
>>
>> "According to Wall Street analyst Brian Marshall of Broadpoint Am Tech,
>> 11.3 million units will be sold worldwide in the current three month
>> period. Marshall had originally expected 10 million iPhones to be sold
>> in the fourth quarter, so the new estimate represents a nice increase
>> for Apple. "
>>
>> The reality is underwhelming.

>
> Brian Marshall should bone up on his prognostication skills. And you
> should learn what reality is; you are obviously out of touch with it.
>
> The facts are that Apple doubled its iPhone sales from a year-ago quarter,
> increased them 17.6% from the previous quarter, and had its biggest quarter
> ever for iPhone sales. You can deny the facts as much as you want, but you
> can't change them.
>


More than Marshall...

"Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
what many analysts expected... Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
in a year-over-year comparison.

Apple had an undeniably such a hot quarter that it would seem unfair to
condemn it as bad performance. But the potential is there, particularly
on the way Apple usually neatly steers analyst expectations so it almost
always comes out smelling like an indomitable winner. The iPhone and
iPod details aren’t going to make most market seers happy.

Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. That’s a difference of
600,000, which is significant. And he wasn’t the only one. Kauffman
Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."

Oh, the reality!

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:21 AM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <c4adndGPoci0DcLWnZ2dnUVZ_tli4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> Oh, the reality!

>
> The reality is that Apple is happy, its stockholders are happy, people
> buying Apple stock are happy, and Apple's coffers are happy. But fools
> like you can't accept reality.
>



Delusional much?

No one who bought AAPL on the hype of 11, 10, 9.5, 9.3, 9.2, 9.1 or 9
million Q4 handset sales is "happy", especially given the kick-back
economics of iToy sales, and the shares closed flat.

Prediction: tablet underwhelms, too.

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:37 AM
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In article <oMKdnRJ6V4WwCMLWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> , Not Me
<Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:

> No one who bought AAPL on the hype of 11, 10, 9.5, 9.3, 9.2, 9.1 or 9
> million Q4 handset sales is "happy", especially given the kick-back
> economics of iToy sales, and the shares closed flat.


nobody? the stock was *up* today.

> Prediction: tablet underwhelms, too.


so don't buy one.

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Old 01-27-2010, 01:38 AM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <tph-A8D68F.16253625012010@localhost>,
> Tom Harrington <tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
>
>> Dude, get a grip. Apple just reported 8.7 million iPhones sold in the
>> last quarter, the most they've ever moved in a quarter:
>> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...rearnings_2010
>> .html>. How many fanboys do you think there are?

>
> According to these crazed anti-Apple fanatics, anyone who owns an iPhone is
> a fanboi, because only fanbois would own an iPhone.
>
> Having no facts or logic to support their delusions, they come up with
> terms like fanboi and iToy, or pick on minor flaws, pretending that they
> are momentous errors.
>
> They are to be pitied.
>

Well, they could be ignored....


and, yeah, I know that's not happening.

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Old 01-27-2010, 01:40 AM
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nospam wrote:
> In article <oMKdnRJ6V4WwCMLWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> , Not Me
> <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:
>
>> No one who bought AAPL on the hype of 11, 10, 9.5, 9.3, 9.2, 9.1 or 9
>> million Q4 handset sales is "happy", especially given the kick-back
>> economics of iToy sales, and the shares closed flat.

>
> nobody? the stock was *up* today.


Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.
Guess the "good news" got out and the stock went flat.

>
>> Prediction: tablet underwhelms, too.

>
> so don't buy one.


Don't need any more drinks coasters, thanks.

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Old 01-27-2010, 01:50 AM
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In article <nqSdne41l_EZOsLWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d@speakeasy.net> , Not Me
<Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:

> Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.


that happens to a lot of stocks. nothing unusual there. the fact
remains that it was *up* for the day.

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Old 01-27-2010, 02:08 AM
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nospam wrote:
> In article <nqSdne41l_EZOsLWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d@speakeasy.net> , Not Me
> <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:
>
>> Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.

>
> that happens to a lot of stocks. nothing unusual there.


Once the hype is let out, sure does.

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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <nqSdne41l_EZOsLWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:
>
>>> nobody? the stock was *up* today.

>> Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.
>> Guess the "good news" got out and the stock went flat.

>
> Only a closed minded fanatic would consider a stock increase while the
> market is going down to be flat.
>



Only a tout would dismiss the dead cat bounce.

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Old 01-27-2010, 02:00 PM
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On 1/26/10 7:00 PM, in article
c4adndCPocjODcLWnZ2dnUVZ_tli4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Groups.Name>
wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <2IadnTthlfCeGMLWnZ2dnUVZ_rdi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> 8.7 million, obviously
>>>>> Way less than analysts expected.
>>>> Only an anti-Apple fanatic can consider doubling the sales from a year
>>>> previously, and a 17.6% increase from the previously highest quarter
>>>> to be negative.
>>> Lacks objectivity.
>>>
>>> "According to Wall Street analyst Brian Marshall of Broadpoint Am Tech,
>>> 11.3 million units will be sold worldwide in the current three month
>>> period. Marshall had originally expected 10 million iPhones to be sold
>>> in the fourth quarter, so the new estimate represents a nice increase
>>> for Apple. "
>>>
>>> The reality is underwhelming.

>>
>> Brian Marshall should bone up on his prognostication skills. And you
>> should learn what reality is; you are obviously out of touch with it.
>>
>> The facts are that Apple doubled its iPhone sales from a year-ago quarter,
>> increased them 17.6% from the previous quarter, and had its biggest quarter
>> ever for iPhone sales. You can deny the facts as much as you want, but you
>> can't change them.
>>

>
> More than Marshall...
>
> "Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
> were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
> doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
> what many analysts expected... Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
> in a year-over-year comparison.
>
> Apple had an undeniably such a hot quarter that it would seem unfair to
> condemn it as bad performance. But the potential is there, particularly
> on the way Apple usually neatly steers analyst expectations so it almost
> always comes out smelling like an indomitable winner. The iPhone and
> iPod details arenıt going to make most market seers happy.
>
> Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
> 9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. Thatıs a difference of
> 600,000, which is significant. And he wasnıt the only one. Kauffman
> Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
> Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."
>
> Oh, the reality!


You cheap-assed PC 'send' key is broken. Get a Mac.


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Old 01-27-2010, 02:04 PM
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On 1/26/10 9:09 PM, in article
jLCdnba0brLnM8LWnZ2dnUVZ_u1i4p2d@speakeasy.net, "Not Me" <Not.Me@Home.Base>
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> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <nqSdne41l_EZOsLWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>> Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:
>>
>>>> nobody? the stock was *up* today.
>>> Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.
>>> Guess the "good news" got out and the stock went flat.

>>
>> Only a closed minded fanatic would consider a stock increase while the
>> market is going down to be flat.
>>

>
>
> Only a tout would dismiss the dead cat bounce.


Sorry you sold all your AAPL @ <$100.00?!?

The only "dead cat" is you...


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Old 01-27-2010, 02:23 PM
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George Kerby wrote:
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>
> On 1/26/10 7:00 PM, in article
> c4adndCPocjODcLWnZ2dnUVZ_tli4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Groups.Name>
> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>> In article <2IadnTthlfCeGMLWnZ2dnUVZ_rdi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> 8.7 million, obviously
>>>>>> Way less than analysts expected.
>>>>> Only an anti-Apple fanatic can consider doubling the sales from a year
>>>>> previously, and a 17.6% increase from the previously highest quarter
>>>>> to be negative.
>>>> Lacks objectivity.
>>>>
>>>> "According to Wall Street analyst Brian Marshall of Broadpoint Am Tech,
>>>> 11.3 million units will be sold worldwide in the current three month
>>>> period. Marshall had originally expected 10 million iPhones to be sold
>>>> in the fourth quarter, so the new estimate represents a nice increase
>>>> for Apple. "
>>>>
>>>> The reality is underwhelming.
>>> Brian Marshall should bone up on his prognostication skills. And you
>>> should learn what reality is; you are obviously out of touch with it.
>>>
>>> The facts are that Apple doubled its iPhone sales from a year-ago quarter,
>>> increased them 17.6% from the previous quarter, and had its biggest quarter
>>> ever for iPhone sales. You can deny the facts as much as you want, but you
>>> can't change them.
>>>

>> More than Marshall...
>>
>> "Apple (AAPL) just released its earnings for last quarter .... there
>> were two major disappointments. iPhone sales, even though the almost
>> doubled those of the same quarter in the previous year, failed to hit
>> what many analysts expected... Furthermore, iPod sales actually dropped
>> in a year-over-year comparison.
>>
>> Apple had an undeniably such a hot quarter that it would seem unfair to
>> condemn it as bad performance. But the potential is there, particularly
>> on the way Apple usually neatly steers analyst expectations so it almost
>> always comes out smelling like an indomitable winner. The iPhone and
>> iPod details arenıt going to make most market seers happy.
>>
>> Apple cheerleader and Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster had predicted
>> 9.3 million iPhones selling last quarter. Thatıs a difference of
>> 600,000, which is significant. And he wasnıt the only one. Kauffman
>> Bros. analyst Shaw Wu predicted 9.5 units. Andy Hargreaves of Pacific
>> Crest Securities Inc. said between 9.1 million and 9.2 million."
>>
>> Oh, the reality!

>
> You cheap-assed PC 'send' key is broken. Get a Mac.
>



Spelling error. Sent from your iToy?

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Old 01-27-2010, 02:34 PM
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In article <nqSdne41l_EZOsLWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:

> nospam wrote:
> > In article <oMKdnRJ6V4WwCMLWnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> , Not Me
> > <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:
> >
> >> No one who bought AAPL on the hype of 11, 10, 9.5, 9.3, 9.2, 9.1 or 9
> >> million Q4 handset sales is "happy", especially given the kick-back
> >> economics of iToy sales, and the shares closed flat.

> >
> > nobody? the stock was *up* today.

>
> Closed almost 5% BELOW its intra-day, puff-piece high.
> Guess the "good news" got out and the stock went flat.


My AAPL has gained 105.35% since I bought it. Jealous? : )

> >> Prediction: tablet underwhelms, too.

> >
> > so don't buy one.

>
> Don't need any more drinks coasters, thanks.


We all know you'd say that about any Apple product, regardless of actual
quality, trollboi. : )

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3GS LEAPS OTHER ALL SMARTPHONES! <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apple Inc. may release the iPhone to all U.S. wireless carriers in the
> next 18 months, doubling or tripling the number of devices sold, said
> Tim Horan, a telecommunications analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.


But will it work? After all the iPhone uses the international standards
[GSM and 3G] not company-specific standards used in the US only.

Apple would have to release a separate iPhone for each single US carrier
and it would be unusable outside the US ...
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:43 PM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <2e-dncnB5PD1x_3WnZ2dnUVZ_oNi4p2d@speakeasy.net>,
> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
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>> Sent from your iToy?

>
> "iToy" An infantile term, meant to be derisive, expressed in jealousy.
>



Sounds defensive. Chronic thin skin a problem for you?

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Old 01-27-2010, 04:12 PM
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Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <t72dnfTwKu60FcLWnZ2dnUVZ_gFi4p2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Groups.Name> wrote:
>
>> Oh, the reality!

>
> The reality is that Apple is happy, its stockholders are happy, people
> buying Apple stock are happy, and Apple's coffers are happy. But fools
> like you can't accept reality.
>



LOL that's rich, a lesson on accepting reality from an apparent
ultra-lib.

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