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Old 12-05-2007, 12:41 PM
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-= Hawk =- wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:57:00 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> scribbled:
>
>> In article <_Ar5j.326$vs5.187@fe119.usenetserver.com>,
>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For minimal use, T-Mobile is $100 the first year, $10 (yes, ten) each
>>> additional year.

>> No, after the second year everything expires and nothing rolls over.
>> You're back to $100 every other year, if that's what you're doing.

>
> That's the first I've heard of that in the two years I've been reading
> this group. Odd you're the only person in all that time to bring it up.


That poster is a source of misinformation on a wide variety of subjects.

It's clear that "Gold Rewards Status" isn't something that needs to be
requalified for. Once you're "Gold" you're "Gold" for as long as you
keep the prepaid account. If "Gold" status had to be requalified for
every two years then they would have to have explicitly stated that
fact. See:

"http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/default.aspx?plancategory=4"
"http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm22440.htm"

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Old 12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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At 05 Dec 2007 05:57:00 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> > For minimal use, T-Mobile is $100 the first year, $10 (yes, ten) each
> > additional year.

>
> No, after the second year everything expires and nothing rolls over.


That's incorrect. First you piss on PagePlus for being unavailable for
purchase (which wasincorrect) and then on T-Mo with more misinformation.
What's your interest in this Elmo? Are you a Sprint stockholder?

> You're back to $100 every other year, if that's what you're doing.


No. Not only is that not mentioned anywhere in T-Mo's website or literature,
I can tell you from personal experience that you're dead wrong. As long as
you don't let the account expire, all future refills on "gold" accounts
(over $100 of airtime added) have a one year expiration. I have three
active T-Mo prepaid accounts now that I don't even need, but for $10/year I
can't let them go. One is going on it's fourth year this month (the first
year cost me $25, due to a special Christmas promo T-Mo ran a few years ago
that gave you "Gold" status for $25 instead of $100) so I have invested $45
in that account- $25 for year one, and $10 each for 2 and 3. Another $10 is
due later this month to carry me through 2008.




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Old 12-05-2007, 05:07 PM
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 05 Dec 2007 05:57:00 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>>> For minimal use, T-Mobile is $100 the first year, $10 (yes, ten)
>>> each additional year.

>>
>> No, after the second year everything expires and nothing rolls over.

>
> That's incorrect. First you piss on PagePlus for being unavailable
> for purchase (which wasincorrect) and then on T-Mo with more
> misinformation. What's your interest in this Elmo? Are you a Sprint
> stockholder?
>
>> You're back to $100 every other year, if that's what you're doing.

>
> No. Not only is that not mentioned anywhere in T-Mo's website or
> literature, I can tell you from personal experience that you're dead
> wrong. As long as you don't let the account expire, all future
> refills on "gold" accounts (over $100 of airtime added) have a one
> year expiration. I have three active T-Mo prepaid accounts now that
> I don't even need, but for $10/year I can't let them go. One is
> going on it's fourth year this month (the first year cost me $25, due
> to a special Christmas promo T-Mo ran a few years ago that gave you
> "Gold" status for $25 instead of $100) so I have invested $45 in that
> account- $25 for year one, and $10 each for 2 and 3. Another $10 is
> due later this month to carry me through 2008.


I can confirm this. Both my parents bought an initial $100 card and then
they just buy another $10 card every year. They've had the service for 3
years.



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Old 12-05-2007, 06:51 PM
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bruceR wrote:

<snip>

> I can confirm this. Both my parents bought an initial $100 card and then
> they just buy another $10 card every year. They've had the service for 3
> years.


Same with my mother and stepfather. They were conned into converting
from AT&T TDMA/AMPS to AT&T GSM, then went to Cingular when AT&T was
bought out. Coverage sucked with AT&T GSM at the time, and they switched
to T-Mobile prepaid. I walked my mother through unlocking her Nokia
handset from AT&T because she didn't want to enter all her contacts
again. They went from $40/month to about $7/month, and they also got a
bunch of their friends to dump Cingular postpaid in favor of T-Mobile
prepaid as well. T-Mobile works fine where they live. Page Plus would
have been too complicated for them. They want to go to a store to have
someone help them with stuff.

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Old 12-05-2007, 07:29 PM
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), SMS wrote:

> 8. Satellite TV boxes need a landline, and satellite TV service is
> much cheaper than cable TV service.


My DirectTV uses my wireless broadband connection. No need for a landline.

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Old 12-05-2007, 09:50 PM
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Cellguy <cellguy@moto3.net> wrote in
news:19jbnic6iplvn.1l3worlwphwk5.dlg@40tude.net:

> On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), SMS wrote:
>
>> 8. Satellite TV boxes need a landline, and satellite TV

service is
>> much cheaper than cable TV service.

>
> My DirectTV uses my wireless broadband connection. No need for

a
> landline.
>


You guys have TV? Why? There's nothing on it to watch except a
constant barrage of commercials. Buy Winrar and get a
Usenetserver.com account. There's no way to ever watch 10% of
the movies, documentaries, music videos or listen to the MP3
files posted every day. How silly it is to listen to that
spamcrapped BILLBOARD in your living room!

I'm still working on BBC-TV to put up a subscription broadband
server for all their channels. I offered to pay my radio and TV
taxes, but they very politely refused. The radio ratings people
called me and asked what my favorite radio station was on a
survey call. "Hmm...That's a tough one!", I said. "I'm torn
between BBC2 and BBC4. I like 'em both!", I mused. "No, I meant
what was your favorite LOCAL radio station?", she persisted.
"Oh, I haven't listened to that string of constant commercials
since 1992 or so.", I replied. "There's nothing to listen to on
radio in America except commercials, the God Squad trying to pry
money out of you or Public Radio, where the academics are trying
to take us back into the Middle Ages of Classical Music."

As we parted, I could hear BBC2 playing from the speakers on her
desktop in the office. She needed a little instruction on how to
make it play...(c; It seemed to make her day!

Amazing. I knew some people were still watching that Livingroom
Billboard. I think it's insane to be brainwashed like that.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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Old 12-05-2007, 10:12 PM
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In article <Xns99FDB5D2E6FB9noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Cellguy <cellguy@moto3.net> wrote in
> news:19jbnic6iplvn.1l3worlwphwk5.dlg@40tude.net:
>
> > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), SMS wrote:
> >
> >> 8. Satellite TV boxes need a landline, and satellite TV

> service is
> >> much cheaper than cable TV service.

> >
> > My DirectTV uses my wireless broadband connection. No need for

> a
> > landline.
> >

>
> You guys have TV? Why? There's nothing on it to watch except a
> constant barrage of commercials. Buy Winrar and get a
> Usenetserver.com account. There's no way to ever watch 10% of
> the movies, documentaries, music videos or listen to the MP3
> files posted every day. How silly it is to listen to that
> spamcrapped BILLBOARD in your living room!
>
> I'm still working on BBC-TV to put up a subscription broadband
> server for all their channels. I offered to pay my radio and TV
> taxes, but they very politely refused. The radio ratings people
> called me and asked what my favorite radio station was on a
> survey call. "Hmm...That's a tough one!", I said. "I'm torn
> between BBC2 and BBC4. I like 'em both!", I mused. "No, I meant
> what was your favorite LOCAL radio station?", she persisted.
> "Oh, I haven't listened to that string of constant commercials
> since 1992 or so.", I replied. "There's nothing to listen to on
> radio in America except commercials, the God Squad trying to pry
> money out of you or Public Radio, where the academics are trying
> to take us back into the Middle Ages of Classical Music."
>
> As we parted, I could hear BBC2 playing from the speakers on her
> desktop in the office. She needed a little instruction on how to
> make it play...(c; It seemed to make her day!
>
> Amazing. I knew some people were still watching that Livingroom
> Billboard. I think it's insane to be brainwashed like that.
>
> Larry


I Have DirecTivo. I don't watch live TV or commercials. 30 second skip.

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Old 12-05-2007, 11:24 PM
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Larry wrote:
> Amazing. I knew some people were still watching that Livingroom
> Billboard. I think it's insane to be brainwashed like that.


well of thirty years ago, my dad would turn the TV at 5:30 for the
national news, then 6:00 local news...he like Wheel of fortune at 6:30.
Then the Tonight Show would be over by midnight.

I called it Video Wallpaper.

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Old 12-06-2007, 02:42 AM
Larry
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Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
DA2740.15124805122007@news.giganews.com:

> I Have DirecTivo. I don't watch live TV or commercials. 30 second

skip.
>
>


That cuts the 1 hour show down to what, 20 minutes, now? It'll cut
a Nascar race down to 30!

Larry
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Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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Old 12-06-2007, 02:45 AM
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DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:LiH5j.51777$eY.15280
@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net:

> Larry wrote:
>> Amazing. I knew some people were still watching that

Livingroom
>> Billboard. I think it's insane to be brainwashed like that.

>
> well of thirty years ago, my dad would turn the TV at 5:30 for

the
> national news, then 6:00 local news...he like Wheel of fortune

at 6:30.
> Then the Tonight Show would be over by midnight.
>
> I called it Video Wallpaper.
>


In my father's house, and including the TV in the nursing home
before he died at 83....from his first TV in 1947, the first one
in our small town that had a tiny oscilloscope screen from
Raytheon...TV ran 18 hours a day, between him and my mother...and
her soaps.

I escaped into the Navy in 1964 from the stench of their
cigarette addictions and TV addictions. It warped me for
life....

Larry
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Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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Old 12-06-2007, 04:10 AM
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We've had the gross generalizations discussion before.
This is another of those situations.

Painting an entire medium with such a broad brush is
really VERY stupid!

You really are one negative SOB...

OK, let me just address just a few reasons.

#1. Quality - as in HD - the combo of HD and (2 actually) Tivo series 3
simply
means I have the ability to watch 1080i almost exclusively now - and I
don't watch any of those pesky commercials. Boop, boop, boop...
Try to watch a shit quality, compressed as hell MP3 on a 50" plasma.

#2. Legality - I can watch DRM stuff - no, I'm not going to argue RIAA
here...
But, HBO, Showtime, etc's HD content is all protected...

#3. Real time - I don't have to wait (and be a Larry bandwidth hog)
I can watch it NOW, vs hours or even days later. Sure, I'm going to download
the local news to get the latest on the flooding - get real.

There are MANY more....


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99FDB5D2E6FB9noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...

>
> You guys have TV? Why? There's nothing on it to watch except a
> constant barrage of commercials. Buy Winrar and get a
> Usenetserver.com account. There's no way to ever watch 10% of
> the movies, documentaries, music videos or listen to the MP3
> files posted every day. How silly it is to listen to that
> spamcrapped BILLBOARD in your living room!
>



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Old 12-06-2007, 10:26 PM
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"Ness-Net" <richard.no@more.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
newsomdnSkyyJfSGcranZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@giganews.com :

> and be a Larry bandwidth hog


Oh, horseshit......If only this were true! You'd think from Nessy
I could bring the internet to its knees with my little PC.



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Old 12-08-2007, 12:48 PM
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"P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in message
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> My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
> However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
> cost
> is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
> but it also includes the local TAXES.
>
> Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
> it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
>
> So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added
> taxes ?
>

Sprint SERO plan 500 anyminutes 7pm nite weekends, unlimited data, unlimited
text; $37/month with taxes in FL.



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Old 12-08-2007, 02:44 PM
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GolfGod wrote:

> Sprint SERO plan 500 anyminutes 7pm nite weekends, unlimited data, unlimited
> text; $37/month with taxes in FL.


Those are great deals. If Sprint had coverage where I live I'd be there
in a minute. Lots of Sprint Employee e-mail addresses are available on
the web to use in getting SERO pricing.

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Old 12-10-2007, 11:15 AM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99FC5332FD91noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote in
> news:Vz45j.2844$Vq.1321@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
> > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
> > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
> >
> > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs

> added
> > taxes ?
> >
> >

> Alltel in South Carolina, here. The $39 plan is over $47 after
> the bureaucrats get their cuts. Every fiefdom wants some. It's
> obscene. There'll be more taxes, now with the additional $25/mo
> EVDO data added to that. $64/mo will total over $75.
>
> I justify it by not having an AT&T landline at home, which I
> consider obsolete. I'll never figure why someone with a
> SELLphone they're paying so much for has another drain on their
> funds with a useless landline with even MORE stupid addon
> charges, like "long distance", a throwback into the 1930's.
>
> People are stupid.
>
> Larry
> --


tnx again for immediately dragging a thread off-topic...

a simple basic research question on billing facts
became a personal discussion on landline vs cellphone....



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