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Old 04-13-2009, 01:50 AM
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A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... 1 year -
Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
but will have to get a new phone while he's there.

Will it be the same as USA... just reversed,
with respect to Intl calling and Intl texting

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Old 04-13-2009, 01:54 AM
Mike S.
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In article <%TwEl.26897$yr3.3188@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... 1 year -
>Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
>and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
>He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
>but will have to get a new phone while he's there.


You might find some useful info here:

http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html



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Old 04-13-2009, 08:18 AM
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On Apr 12, 8:50*pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com> wrote:
> A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... *1 year -
> Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
> and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
> He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
> but will have to get a new phone while he's there.
>
> Will it be the same as USA... just reversed,
> with respect to Intl calling and Intl texting
>
> --



The consumer affairs radio show I listen to each day recommends you
buy a
used phone on ebay or craigslist and then buy a sim card once you are
in
country. The type of phone you want is called an "unlocked world
phone" or
"unlocked GSM"., assuming Germany uses the GSM system. The prices for
sim
cards will be cheapest there but if you must have a sim card before
traveling I believe you can buy them from numerous US sources,
including a
company called Telestial.

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Old 04-13-2009, 10:22 AM
Joe Seattle
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On Apr 13, 11:18*am, tscottme <scott.me.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 12, 8:50*pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com> wrote:
>
> > A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... *1 year -
> > Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
> > and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
> > He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
> > but will have to get a new phone while he's there.

>
> > Will it be the same as USA... just reversed,
> > with respect to Intl calling and Intl texting

>
> > --

>
> The consumer affairs radio show I listen to each day recommends you
> buy a
> used phone on ebay or craigslist and then buy a sim card once you are
> in
> country. *The type of phone you want is called an "unlocked world
> phone" or
> "unlocked GSM"., assuming Germany uses the GSM system. *The prices for
> sim
> cards will be cheapest there but if you must have a sim card before
> traveling I believe you can buy them from numerous US sources,
> including a
> company called Telestial.
>
> --
>
> Scott


You can use eBay or Craigslist but just be sure that you get a phone
that will work in Europe since Europe uses different frequencies than
are used in the US. Also, it doesn't need to be "triband" or quadband
just as long as it has the ability to use GSM at 900 and 1800 Mhz. US
GSM uses 850 or 1900.

It's much much cheaper to get a country specific prepaid card in the
country. Most places you can get a prepaid account in Europe for 10
Euros with 5 or 10 Euro credit. Telestial is for convenience only
since they inflate the charge they make for the cards on the order of
sometimes up to 200% or more. Once you are in a city center you
should be able to find places that will sell you prepaid accounts from
multiples of carriers. Just make sure that any phone you use is
unlocked.

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Old 06-15-2009, 07:35 PM
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"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message
news:gru60a$88$1@reader1.panix.com...
>
> In article <%TwEl.26897$yr3.3188@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... 1 year -
>>Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
>>and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
>>He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
>>but will have to get a new phone while he's there.

>
> You might find some useful info here:
>
> http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html
>
>

having never used or dealt with a SIM card -
what's on it - and how does it work if moved from one phone to another ?

if he decides to buy a phone over in Germany on DT,
will it then work back here on the carrier T-Mobile - or locked to the
Germany carrier ?

also - what about the phone number - coming back to US and getting a new
local number ?

Lastly - just curious -
Is there any way to retain a local US phone number (for ref)
in addition to the other local German number on the SIM card.....

Will texting work -
back and forth - but have to change to his German number & country code ?

I'm sure there are several other nuances about obtaining a new phone in
Germany,
and calling/texting back and forth - along with the other SIM issues
such as manually updating with all current phone number entries, etc





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Old 06-15-2009, 07:51 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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ps56k wrote:
> "Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message
> news:gru60a$88$1@reader1.panix.com...
>> In article <%TwEl.26897$yr3.3188@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>> ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>> A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... 1 year -
>>> Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
>>> and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
>>> He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
>>> but will have to get a new phone while he's there.

>> You might find some useful info here:
>>
>> http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html
>>
>>

> having never used or dealt with a SIM card -
> what's on it - and how does it work if moved from one phone to another ?
>

A SIM card is a "personality module" for phones equipped to use them.
The most important thing it stores is your phone number. My phone
doesn't use one so I can't really tell you much more about them.

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Old 06-15-2009, 11:46 PM
Dirk Bieber
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ps56k wrote:

> having never used or dealt with a SIM card -
> what's on it - and how does it work if moved from one phone to another ?


With a SIM card you authorize to the network. When you change the card
to another phone, you are avaible with the new one.

> if he decides to buy a phone over in Germany on DT,
> will it then work back here on the carrier T-Mobile - or locked to the
> Germany carrier ?


That depends, if it's SIM-locked it'll only work with a SIM card from
the operator which gave the phone (or one from a decent SIM range).
And the phone has to support 850 and/or 1900 MHz, most GSM networks
use 900/1800 MHz (all in Europe).

> also - what about the phone number - coming back to US and getting a new
> local number ?


No problem with a GSM-SIMlock-free-multiband-phone with an US-GSM-
operator. ;-)

Just put the new SIM in it.

> Lastly - just curious -
> Is there any way to retain a local US phone number (for ref)
> in addition to the other local German number on the SIM card.....


There are dual-SIM-cellphones, but VoIP and/or call forwarding should
be cheaper and easer to use. VoIP is not allowed (but possible) with
all German networks, so you should divert an US-number (e.g. from
a cheap VoIP-provider) to the German mobile number. Roaming is much
more expensive.

> Will texting work -
> back and forth - but have to change to his German number & country code ?


Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the used operators.

> I'm sure there are several other nuances about obtaining a new phone in
> Germany,
> and calling/texting back and forth - along with the other SIM issues
> such as manually updating with all current phone number entries, etc


You can get cheap phones without any subscription from local stores
or ebay. There are many providers in Germany and most charge horrible
tariffs for international calls. But you could use Call-Through. One
of the cheapest (prepaid) is <http://www.fonic.de/> with 0,09 EUR/min
national and many European fixed networks (and US (fixed and mobile)).

T-Mobile and Vodafone have the best coverage, but you shouldn't have
trouble with any of the networks (furthers are o2 and Eplus). Best
mobile internet speed is available at T-Mobile and Vodafone (in terms
of coverage and speed).

Cheers Dirk

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Old 06-16-2009, 01:53 PM
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:35:39 -0400, ps56k
<pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:

>
> "Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message
> news:gru60a$88$1@reader1.panix.com...
>>
>> In article <%TwEl.26897$yr3.3188@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>> ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>> A nephew is going to Germany as a cultural exchange... 1 year -
>>> Was wondering what services might be avail compared to USA,
>>> and different carriers and/or phones to look at ?
>>> He currently has VZ and the Voyager,
>>> but will have to get a new phone while he's there.

>>
>> You might find some useful info here:
>>
>> http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html
>>
>>

> having never used or dealt with a SIM card -
> what's on it - and how does it work if moved from one phone to another ?


A SIM card is issued by a cellular network provider.
It contains data identifying you, the cellular subscriber,
to the provider's network. It has its own ID number,
and it shows the phone number assigned to it.

> if he decides to buy a phone over in Germany on DT,
> will it then work back here on the carrier T-Mobile - or locked to the
> Germany carrier ?


Some phones are "SIM-locked" to work only with SIMs from one carrier.
Others are "unlocked," and will work with any carrier's SIMs.
In Belgium, it used to be the case that one could as easily buy
unlocked phones as SIM-locked ones -- probably still true there.
In Germany, second-hand phones are the more likely ones *not*
to be SIM-locked.

> also - what about the phone number - coming back to US and getting a new
> local number ?


To get a local number in the US, you'd need to get a SIM card
from a local carrier (T-Mobile or at&t/Cingular these days, for
the most part, in the US; Rogers in CA). And you'd need to know
that the handset you're using, surely working at least on the
900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands in Germany, is *also* capable of
working on the 1900 MHz (and preferably also 850 MHz) band(s)
here, otherwise you're as dead in the water as if you were in
Japan, or other non-GSM territory.

You *can* get such quad-band GSM phones anywhere, but you must
make sure your sales rep *knows* you need a quad-band phone :-) .

> Lastly - just curious -
> Is there any way to retain a local US phone number (for ref)
> in addition to the other local German number on the SIM card.....


On *one* SIM card: no. But a very small minority of handsets
can accept *two* SIM cards -- dual-SIM phones, they're called --
exactly for the purposes you probably have in mind.

> Will texting work -
> back and forth - but have to change to his German number & country code ?


Texting will work -- if the handset is capable of it -- and if the
service plan going with the SIM in the phone allows it.

> I'm sure there are several other nuances about obtaining a new phone in
> Germany,
> and calling/texting back and forth - along with the other SIM issues
> such as manually updating with all current phone number entries, etc


Some phones store entries entirely in the phone's memory; others,
entirely on the SIM card; still others, on whichever you choose;
and some of those let you even copy from phone to SIM and/or back.

BTW, it's *not* necessarily that case that a phone SIM-locked to a
T-Mobile SIM will work with both German and the American T-Mobile
SIM cards, as T-Mobile (US) and T-Mobile (DE), while they do have
roaming agreements, seems *not* to have SIM-card lock agreements
for each other's SIM cards :-{ .

On the other hand, T-Mobile (US) *will* deliver to you detailed
SIM-unlock instructions unique to your individual T-Mobile (US)
handset after about 3 months of your being a T-Mobile (US) client.
All my T-Mo handsets are now thus unlocked.


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