"Paul Miner" <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:00:54 GMT, "J. Michael Milner"
> <jmmilner@att.not> wrote:
>
> >I get this error with 3 different phones using two different phone
numbers
> >and
> >both the Sprint Classic and Nextel Hybrid services.
>
> Were you doing anything specific when you saw the errors? Web
> browsing, for example? If so, which sites caused the errors, and what
> kind of activity was occurring at the time? I'm asking because Sprint
> Classic and Nextel Hybrid don't mean anything to me. Which 3 phones
> were used?
>
Accessing a secure (https), password-protected web-based (hdml - yes
I mean "d", not "t") Workforce Management application using either
a Samsung A940 or Toshiba VM4050 on the fully deployed non-EVDO
Sprint network (hence "Classic") or a Motorola ic502 on the Nextel
network for voice and the Sprint non-EVDO infrastructure for data
(Hybrid is what Nextel calls this) in the western suburbs of Chicago.
The WM app is provided by CSG Systems and used by the cable
industry to link field techs to in-house CRM systems. The initial
URL is
https://technet.csgsystems.com/chi2/tn/tn.html.
> >Sprint "Advanced
> >Technical Support" told me to email "the IT department" while Nextel just
> >said "third party web sites (anything not owned by Sprint/Nextel) are not
> >supported".
>
> That sounds right. Sprint has nothing to do with the general Internet.
Except that they hold themselves out as the leader in providing mobile
access to it.
http://www.sprintahead.com/?id12=UHP...head_LearnMore
specifically claims "now you can instantly beam work, .... right to the palm
of your hand". While it is just a commercial, to me "can" is a bit
stronger than "might be able to". Maybe in the print version of the
ads they will have a full page of small print (like the prescription
medication ads) where the lawyers CYA.
> >I tried to explain that the web service wasn't very useful if
> >all I could expect to work was the web site(s) Sprint/Nextel owned.
>
> They aren't telling you that's all you can expect. They're telling you
> that's all they support.
>
> >I guess they don't understand that 99.9999999..% of the web isn't
> >owned by Sprint.
>
> No, they understand that but apparently weren't able to help you
> understand the difference between [your] expectations and [their]
> support.
As a customer I expect fair value for my dollar. In my experience
most businesses make a good-faith effort to support their products
and services in the real world. I wouldn't buy another car from a
manufacturer that dismissed a driveability problem by telling me that
all paved surfaces other than the dealer's lot were provided by third
parties and they don't support driving on them.
> >Anybody else seen this message? Any fixes out there?
>
> More information would be helpful.
Any concrete suggestions? Any more questions?
>
> --
> Paul Miner 
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