Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
with some kind of locator device in the main office.
How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
shoulder with every move I make.
"Jr." <me@doh.com> wrote in message
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> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
> shoulder with every move I make.
Is there any reason you can't just turn the cell phone off?
At 06 Dec 2007 14:26:11 -0600 Jr. wrote:
> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
I assume they're using an LBS (location-based service) offered by the
carrier.
> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
You can't. You COULD, however, forward your business phone to your
personal one, and shut off the work phone and "fall off the grid..."
....and into an unemployment office, most likely.
> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
> shoulder with every move I make.
Do you use a company vehicle? There's a possbility that they just tell you
they're tracking your phone, but are actually tracking the vehicle.
Vehicle locators are running about the same $$$/month as cell tracking
these days, and they still work even if you turn the phone off! Plus it
has the added benefit of locating stolen vehicles, which protects a larger
asset than tracking a stolen phone or errant employee. ;-)
Jr. wrote:
> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
> shoulder with every move I make.
>
>
Turn in your company-paid phone, use your personal phone for company
business and restrict who can access the locator info of your personal
phone.
"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jr." <me@doh.com> wrote in message
> news:sdmdnVBAv6g-x8XanZ2dnUVZ_rSrnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
>> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
>> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>>
>> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>>
>> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
>> shoulder with every move I make.
>
> Is there any reason you can't just turn the cell phone off?
>
>
They tell me that turning off the phone does not work.
I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or
received but I need it to work.
I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can get on
the phone service with my wife.
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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> At 06 Dec 2007 14:26:11 -0600 Jr. wrote:
>> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
>> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
>> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> I assume they're using an LBS (location-based service) offered by the
> carrier.
>
>> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
> You can't. You COULD, however, forward your business phone to your
> personal one, and shut off the work phone and "fall off the grid..."
>
> ...and into an unemployment office, most likely.
>
>> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
>> shoulder with every move I make.
>
> Do you use a company vehicle? There's a possbility that they just tell
> you
> they're tracking your phone, but are actually tracking the vehicle.
> Vehicle locators are running about the same $$$/month as cell tracking
> these days, and they still work even if you turn the phone off! Plus it
> has the added benefit of locating stolen vehicles, which protects a larger
> asset than tracking a stolen phone or errant employee. ;-)
>
Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator?
They tell us it is not the car it is the phone.
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:26:11 -0600, Jr. <me@doh.com> wrote:
>Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
>Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
>with some kind of locator device in the main office.
> They tell me that turning off the phone does not work.
"They" used to tell me Santa knew when I was sleeping and knew when I was
awake too.
Sometimes it just takes a little white lie to get people to behave the way
you want.
> I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or
> received but I need it to work.
> I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can get
on
> the phone service with my wife.
Or, just as a crazy alternative, you could always just be where the company
wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock...
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
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> At 07 Dec 2007 10:18:42 -0600 Jr. wrote:
>
>> They tell me that turning off the phone does not work.
>
>
> "They" used to tell me Santa knew when I was sleeping and knew when I
> was awake too.
>
> Sometimes it just takes a little white lie to get people to behave the
> way you want.
>
>> I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or
>> received but I need it to work.
>> I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can
>> get
> on
>> the phone service with my wife.
>
> Or, just as a crazy alternative, you could always just be where the
> company wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock...
>
>
>
I was going to mention that, but figured that pointing out the
responsibility to someone paying your bills might be received with some
indignation.
On Dec 6, 2:26 pm, "Jr." <m...@doh.com> wrote:
> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
> shoulder with every move I make.
It really all depends on what service they are using. As you are only
posting this to
alt.cellular.sprintpcs, I am going to asume that you all have sprint
or nextel devices.
Sprint's Precision Locator Service or Mobile Locator as I believe it
has been changed to
does require that the device be turned on [at least occording to the
information that we are given].
So as was stated earlier, turning the device off 'Should' work.
however, don't you think it might
look a little suspicious you simply dropping off the grid? Especially
when the company only
has to look at a coverage map to see that where you were last seen and
the area all around it
should have great coverage? Just a thought.
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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> At 07 Dec 2007 10:18:42 -0600 Jr. wrote:
>
>> They tell me that turning off the phone does not work.
>
>
> "They" used to tell me Santa knew when I was sleeping and knew when I was
> awake too.
>
> Sometimes it just takes a little white lie to get people to behave the way
> you want.
>
>> I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or
>> received but I need it to work.
>> I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can get
> on
>> the phone service with my wife.
>
> Or, just as a crazy alternative, you could always just be where the
> company
> wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock...
>
I think I have been misunderstood and I could go into a long explanation but
I have been with the company for over 7-1/2 years and doing my job well. On
the rare occasion that I need to do paperwork and would really like to be
done with that paperwork before 5 PM, I need to go home to my office.
It is the company's opinion that we should spend more time in the field
selling. They track our movements by phone and when the phone and call
report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other city
and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early.
This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on
where the phone tracking says I am.
> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other city
> and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early.
> This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on
> where the phone tracking says I am.
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:slrnflmj2k.10o.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net.. .
> On 2007-12-09, Jr. <me@doh.com> wrote:
>
>> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other
>> city
>> and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early.
>> This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on
>> where the phone tracking says I am.
>
> Get a new job.
>
> --
Yes, that would be one solution.
>>> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other
>>> city
>>> and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early.
>>> This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on
>>> where the phone tracking says I am.
>>
>> Get a new job.
> Yes, that would be one solution.
> Anyone out there need a 60 year old salesman?
> No, I thought not.
I'd agree. That probably puts you at a disadvantage.
It just sounds like one guy I worked for who didn't trust me, who
micromanaged the hell out of me. He'd been screwed over before, but to be
honest, he was a lousy manager. Thought he could walk on water, too, thought
he never did anything wrong, but all of the employees that left him said
otherwise (and there were MANY).
On Dec 8, 8:10 pm, "Jr." <m...@doh.com> wrote:
> "Steve Sobol" <sjso...@JustThe.net> wrote in message
>
> news:slrnflmj2k.10o.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net.. .> On 2007-12-09, Jr. <m...@doh.com> wrote:
>
> >> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other
> >> city
> >> and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early.
> >> This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on
> >> where the phone tracking says I am.
>
> > Get a new job.
>
> > --
>
> Yes, that would be one solution.
>
> Anyone out there need a 60 year old salesman?
>
> No, I thought not.
On Dec 7, 10:19 am, "Jr." <m...@doh.com> wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fj9sdv$k0u$3@aioe.org...
>
>
>
> > At 06 Dec 2007 14:26:11 -0600 Jr. wrote:
> >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> >> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> > I assume they're using an LBS (location-based service) offered by the
> > carrier.
>
> >> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
> > You can't. You COULD, however, forward your business phone to your
> > personal one, and shut off the work phone and "fall off the grid..."
>
> > ...and into an unemployment office, most likely.
>
> >> Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my
> >> shoulder with every move I make.
>
> > Do you use a company vehicle? There's a possbility that they just tell
> > you
> > they're tracking your phone, but are actually tracking the vehicle.
> > Vehicle locators are running about the same $$$/month as cell tracking
> > these days, and they still work even if you turn the phone off! Plus it
> > has the added benefit of locating stolen vehicles, which protects a larger
> > asset than tracking a stolen phone or errant employee. ;-)
>
> Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator?
> They tell us it is not the car it is the phone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I CAN SEE WHY THEY WOULD TRACK YOU, ANYONE THAT KNOWS YOU ANY AT ALL
KNOWS THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA
"Jr." <me@doh.com> wrote in message
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> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>
> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>
My understanding is that you can become track-proof by turning the phone off
and removing thr battery.
If you need to receive calls, you can always forward your calls to another
cell phone (you could get a Trac Phone or a Go Phone from AT&T, for
example), but that would probably entail being charged per-call forwarding
charges on your Sprint phone.
But you would, at least, be track-proof! All you would need to do is figure
out how to explain to your boss why your office cannot track your
whereabouts any more . . .
The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the
tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not signed any
consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be signed by the
employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my employer make this an
issue he is liable for invasion of privacy.
I am a commission paid sales rep. I do my job and am where I am "supposed
to be" I simply find the whole 24 hour surveillance thing very creepy. I
will not agree to be monitored. If my sales are too low, that should be the
issue. If they are acceptable or better, who cares where I am!
As to the creepy part, who has access to the tracking website and who can
hack it...
I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell.
Just my 2 cents.
"Jeremy" <jeremy@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Jr." <me@doh.com> wrote in message
> news:sdmdnVBAv6g-x8XanZ2dnUVZ_rSrnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is.
>> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are
>> with some kind of locator device in the main office.
>>
>> How can I make my phone "track-proof"?
>>
>
>
> My understanding is that you can become track-proof by turning the phone
> off and removing thr battery.
>
> If you need to receive calls, you can always forward your calls to another
> cell phone (you could get a Trac Phone or a Go Phone from AT&T, for
> example), but that would probably entail being charged per-call forwarding
> charges on your Sprint phone.
>
> But you would, at least, be track-proof! All you would need to do is
> figure out how to explain to your boss why your office cannot track your
> whereabouts any more . . .
>
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-8FC790.11542217022008@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <HPydnSO77oCa-yXanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Cindy" <chaney@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the
>> tracking option for our Nextel service.
>
> And that's exactly what it is--a rumor.
If she asks them to sign a written statement that she won't be tracked without
being notified and a consent form issued, she'll be able to get some idea of
whether her employer is already doing it, not doing it but perhaps thinking
about it, or not planning to do it at all.
Any employer who tells you, "no, you aren't being tracked and we won't do so
without obtaining your prior written consent" but refuses to put that in
writing is not one anyone should work for if they have the option to find
employment elsewhere.
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:50:54 -0500, Cindy <chaney@nospam.com> wrote:
>The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the
>tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not signed any
>consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be signed by the
>employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my employer make this an
>issue he is liable for invasion of privacy.
"Cindy" <chaney@nospam.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:HPydnSO77oCa-yXanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com:
> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing
> the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not
> signed any consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be
> signed by the employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my
> employer make this an issue he is liable for invasion of privacy.
> I am a commission paid sales rep. I do my job and am where I am
> "supposed to be" I simply find the whole 24 hour surveillance thing
> very creepy. I will not agree to be monitored. If my sales are too
> low, that should be the issue. If they are acceptable or better, who
> cares where I am! As to the creepy part, who has access to the
> tracking website and who can hack it...
> I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell.
> Just my 2 cents.
>
Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:36:13 -0600, The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>"Cindy" <chaney@nospam.com> amazed us all with the following in
>news:HPydnSO77oCa-yXanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com:
>> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing
>> the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not
>> signed any consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be
>> signed by the employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my
>> employer make this an issue he is liable for invasion of privacy.
>> I am a commission paid sales rep. I do my job and am where I am
>> "supposed to be" I simply find the whole 24 hour surveillance thing
>> very creepy. I will not agree to be monitored. If my sales are too
>> low, that should be the issue. If they are acceptable or better, who
>> cares where I am! As to the creepy part, who has access to the
>> tracking website and who can hack it...
>> I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell.
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland.
The Bob wrote:
> "Cindy" <chaney@nospam.com> amazed us all with the following in
> news:HPydnSO77oCa-yXanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing
>> the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not
>> signed any consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be
>> signed by the employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my
>> employer make this an issue he is liable for invasion of privacy.
>> I am a commission paid sales rep. I do my job and am where I am
>> "supposed to be" I simply find the whole 24 hour surveillance thing
>> very creepy. I will not agree to be monitored. If my sales are too
>> low, that should be the issue. If they are acceptable or better, who
>> cares where I am! As to the creepy part, who has access to the
>> tracking website and who can hack it...
>> I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell.
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>
> Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland.
LOL! Whaddaya want to bet that the rumor was started by coworkers who
want to bring a slacker in line to start pulling their weight?
How can I get off the tracking system? 
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