iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
I just bumped into Steve Jobs. He said you are his #1 fanboi and he is
really close to inviting you over so you could have his baby. So your
dream may come true.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
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> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
A magazine for liberal idiots, run by liberal idiots.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
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"LHA" <nobody@nobody1.com1> wrote:
> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-6DD99A.14373101112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> > iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> A magazine for liberal idiots, run by liberal idiots.
wow. there aren't many who can demonstrate ignorance of the meanings
of the words "liberal" and "idiots" in a single phrase.
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Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> How much did Apple pay for that privilege?
Ah, whatever it cost to develop the iPhone would be the answer.
It's quite shocking how advanced it is, no smartphone/cell phone will
get close to it for at least 10 years. A true human achievement on the
level of the Microwave and TV.
Do you have one yet?
-----
iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
original phone back in 1876.
Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
1. The iPhone design
Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
technology is that good design is actually as important as good
technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
attractive while doing it.
An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
really is depth.
2. It's touchy-feely
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
(Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
with their hands‹flipping through album covers, clicking links,
stretching and shrinking photographs with their fingers.
This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
is the new seeing.
3. It will make other phones better
Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
need them.
And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
iPhone, so that you‹meaning people other than Apple employees‹will be
able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank
space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
pretty, useful icons.
5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
The iPhone has sold enough units‹more than 1.4 million at press
time‹that it'll be around for a while, and with all that room to develop
and its infinitely updatable, all-software interface, the iPhone is
built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
>Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
>This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
>been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
>original phone back in 1876.
More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
something old, not a way to do something new.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-B99E2A.17224001112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> original phone back in 1876.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1..._Telephone.jpg
>
> The iPhone changes EVERYTHING we knew before.
>
> Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
>
>
> 1. The iPhone design
>
> Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
> an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
> technology is that good design is actually as important as good
> technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
> unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
> attractive while doing it.
>
> An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
> mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
> zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
> like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
> gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
> really is depth.
>
> 2. It's touchy-feely
>
> Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
> (Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
> snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
> do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
> graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
> in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
> that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
> with their hands > stretching and shrinking photographs with their
> fingers.
>
> This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
> relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
> Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
> propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
> Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
> is the new seeing.
>
> 3. It will make other phones better
>
> Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
> dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
> negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
> reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
> hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
> gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
> specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
> the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
>
> 4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
>
> When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
> bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
> system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
> glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
> gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
> that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
> idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
> happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
> gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
> need them.
>
> And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
> month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
> iPhone, so that you > able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all
> that black blank
> space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
> pretty, useful icons.
>
> 5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
>
> The iPhone has sold enough units > time > and its infinitely updatable,
> all-software interface, the iPhone is
> built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
> interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
> whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
> something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
> have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...678581,00.html
>
>> Did you take your meds at 5?
>
> Laughing at you is the best medicine I've found
>
> -
You must like seeing yourself repeat the same old **** over and over again.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
> >iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
> >
> >This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> >been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> >original phone back in 1876.
>
> More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
> direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
> something old, not a way to do something new.
nobody has done multi-touch before, nobody has done a real browser in a
cell phone before, nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
workable visual voice mail another first. super slim size, incredible
battery life, airport mode, international mode, on and on...
but thanks for trying jack!
you'll get an iphone at some point, so don't worry!
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> Ah, whatever it cost to develop the iPhone would be the answer.
>
> It's quite shocking how advanced it is, no smartphone/cell phone will
> get close to it for at least 10 years.
What a load of ****, that is just a stupid claim to make, even IF it was
that advanced today there is no way it would take 10 years for anyone to
come to it!
> A true human achievement on the level of the Microwave and TV.
The microwave oven was invented by a Canadian during World War 2, he
came up with the idea after walking in front of a radar installation and
found that it had melted a bar of chocolate in is his pocket. So don't
go comparing your crappy iphone with an invention from a WW2 veteran.
> Do you have one yet?
NO, and I don't plan to get one. Not even when they are eventually
released here in Australia!
> -----
>
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
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their replies when you reply to them?!?!
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Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
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On 2007-11-02, Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> nobody seems to know... except you. how strange.
I assume the influence on Steve had something to do with Smalltalk. Wasn't
the Lisa's programming language based on Smalltalk? (grasping at straws here)
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Actually, nothing strange - other than the foolish fanatic fanboy
who can't answer a direct question. And, that is typical for Oxford
(or whatever name de' jour he's using)
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
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> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> nobody seems to know... except you. how strange.
>
> ---
>
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-6DD99A.14373101112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
> original phone back in 1876.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1..._Telephone.jpg
>
> The iPhone changes EVERYTHING we knew before.
>
> Congrats Apple for showing phone makers how a PHONE should actually work!
>
>
> 1. The iPhone design
>
> Most high-tech companies don't take design seriously. They treat it as
> an afterthought. Window-dressing. But one of Jobs' basic insights about
> technology is that good design is actually as important as good
> technology. All the cool features in the world won't do you any good
> unless you can figure out how to use said features, and feel smart and
> attractive while doing it.
>
> An example: look at what happens when you put the iPhone into "airplane"
> mode (i.e., no cell service, WiFi, etc.). A tiny little orange airplane
> zooms into the menu bar! Cute, you might say. But cute little touches
> like that are part of what makes the iPhone usable in a world of useless
> gadgets. It speaks your language. In the world of technology, surface
> really is depth.
>
> 2. It's touchy-feely
>
> Apple didn't invent the touchscreen. Apple didn't even reinvent it
> (Apple probably acquired its much hyped multitouch technology when it
> snapped up a company called Fingerworks in 2005). But Apple knew what to
> do with it. Apple's engineers used the touchscreen to innovate past the
> graphical user interface (which Apple helped pioneer with the Macintosh
> in the 1980s) to create a whole new kind of interface, a tactile one
> that gives users the illusion of actually physically manipulating data
> with their hands > stretching and shrinking photographs with their
> fingers.
>
> This is, as engineers say, nontrivial. It's part of a new way of
> relating to computers. Look at the success of the Nintendo Wii. Look at
> Microsoft's new Surface Computing division. Look at how Apple has
> propagated its touchscreen interface to the iPod line with the iPod
> Touch. Can it be long before we get an iMac Touch? A TouchBook? Touching
> is the new seeing.
>
> 3. It will make other phones better
>
> Jobs didn't write the code inside the iPhone. These days he doesn't
> dirty his fingers with 1's and 0's, if he ever really did. But he did
> negotiate the deal with AT&T to carry the iPhone. That's important: one
> reason so many cell phones are lame is that cell-phone-service providers
> hobble developers with lame rules about what they can and can't do. AT&T
> gave Apple unprecedented freedom to build the iPhone to its own
> specifications. Now other phone makers are jealous. They're demanding
> the same freedoms. That means better, more innovative phones for all.
>
> 4. It's not a phone, it's a platform
>
> When Apple made the iPhone, it didn't throw together some cheap-o
> bare-bones firmware. It took OS X, its full-featured desktop operating
> system, and somehow squished it down to fit inside the iPhone's elegant
> glass-and-stainless-steel case. That makes the iPhone more than just a
> gadget. It's a genuine handheld, walk-around computer, the first device
> that really deserves the name. One of the big trends of 2007 was the
> idea that computing doesn't belong just in cyberspace, it needs to
> happen here, in the real world, where actual stuff happens. The iPhone
> gets applications like Google Maps out onto the street, where we really
> need them.
>
> And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last
> month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the
> iPhone, so that you > able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all
> that black blank
> space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny,
> pretty, useful icons.
>
> 5. It is but the ghost of iPhones yet to come
>
> The iPhone has sold enough units > time > and its infinitely updatable,
> all-software interface, the iPhone is
> built to evolve. Look at the iPod of six years ago. That monochrome
> interface! That clunky touchwheel! It looks like something a caveman
> whittled from a piece of flint using another piece of flint. Now imagine
> something that's going to make the iPhone look that primitive. You'll
> have one in a few years. It'll be very cool. And it'll be even cheaper.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...678581,00.html
Don't you mean the greatest disaster of the 21st century.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Oxford wrote:
> Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> wrote:
>
>>> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>>>
>>> This goes without question of course, nothing so remarkable has ever
>>> been introduced to the phone market probably since the rotary dial or
>>> original phone back in 1876.
>> More remarkable that the idea of cell phones? Or transistors, or
>> direct dial? I don't think so. The iPhone is a new way to do
>> something old, not a way to do something new.
>
> nobody has done multi-touch before, nobody has done a real browser in a
> cell phone before, nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>
> workable visual voice mail another first. super slim size, incredible
> battery life, airport mode, international mode, on and on...
>
> but thanks for trying jack!
>
> you'll get an iphone at some point, so don't worry!
>
> -
No MMS messages
No 3G
No GPS
No user-replaceable battery
Poor PDA functionality
Restrictive terms of use...
No memory expansion..
Have to PAY for ringtones?
2 Megapixel Camera
No output to TV
VOIP?
Touch Screen? Been around for along time.. 'MultiTouch'.. Completely
superfluous.. What USEFUL thing can it do? Please do not come back with
the old pinch and stretch argument... It is a cute feature, but hardly
earth shattering..
No one has done the iPod in a phone? Have you forgotten the ROKr?, and
the iPhone doesn't have near the capacity it should to make it truly
'useful' as an iPod...
'Real' Browser? Please...
Visual Voice Mail? I get that with GrandCentral..(Who by the way, was
the 'first'..) and really have no use for it..
Airport Mode/ International Mode? Phones have had that for years...
Super Slim? Slim? maybe, but 'super'.. NOT...
The iPhone is 4.5x2.5x.46 inches.. The Razr (what is that a 5 year old
phone?) is 3.86x2.08x.54
As far as volume.. The iPhone is 5.2 cubic inches vs Razr's 4.3...
So why is it again? that the iPhone is so revolutionary? You, and many
others, have obviously fallen victim to another genius marketing blitz
by Apple and have gotten sucked into a flashy overpriced product with
little or no substance...
It is 'pretty'., I will give you that, but that's all it is..
If you like the phone, good for you, enjoy it.. But it sounds more like
you are trying to convince yourselves you didn't waste the money on old,
repackaged tech...
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
> > nobody seems to know... except you. how strange.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_G...uter_scientist)
>
> Heh, she's from my hometown.
>
> I assume the influence on Steve had something to do with Smalltalk. Wasn't
> the Lisa's programming language based on Smalltalk? (grasping at straws here)
and what does she have to do with steve or apple? the LISA nor the Mac
used smalltalk. it used Cascal as its programming environment.
no problem, but price wise it's the most inexpensive smartphone by far.
including cables in the box would be an ecological error since less than
10% are going to use it with a TV, plus it would make the box heavier to
ship, etc. no need to waste that much jet fuel / plastic on the few that
needed.
apple tends to get down to the "pure essence" of a product, they don't
go for frills or unneeded features. just all the power packed into a
well engineered box that is simple to use and will last for 4-6 years
without any maintenance.
other cell phone companies should try this approach and they have no
choice but to do it now. the iphone is incredible and puts every other
cell phone manufacture to shame.
Megapixels have little to do with image quality, the Lens in the iPhone
is higher grade than most any smartphone or cellphone.
> No output to TV
Apple offers cables to output TV from any iPhone or (most) any iPod.
> VOIP?
VoIP is still in the formative stages. iChat does this now so it's only
a matter of time before it can be moved to the iPhone. Apple tends to
wait until the time is right, not push out inferior products before they
are ready.
> Touch Screen?
Yes, it's the best on the market. The Multi-Touch tech is a revolution
that only Apple will have for the next 17 years. The use of "Gestures"
has been a long held research project of Apple. Even the CEO of MS was
shocked / impressed by how good Apple did it with the iPhone.
Flicking through data with a single finger is unreal. The future of all
phones in the 18 year time frame.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
In article <colalovesmacs-6DD99A.14373101112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>, Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
>iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
So why are you cross-posting this to every group and its mother? I'm seeing
this on the T-Mobile group, which I believe doesn't support that contraption.
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
To each his own... But...
Gene Jones wrote:
> Tony <tony@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> No MMS messages
>
> not needed by 99% of users
99%? really? I use it extensively..
>
>> No 3G
>
> kills battery life, WiFi is much faster and more common / free.
I tether my phone to either my laptop or a Nokia N800 frequently..
Wifi, esp 'free' wifi is not as ubiquitous as you might think... and
Edge is too slow to be useful for a number of tasks... IMHO, Jobs panned
3G as being a power hog as the 'company line' for not including it... I
suspect the story behind the scenes is quite different.. Most likely
couldn't get past an engineering hurdle before they needed to launch
it.. but I am speculating..
>
>> No GPS
>
> GPS might not yet be ready for the iPhone's level of needs.
This one is a 'push'.. but considering the emphasis on google maps in
their advertisements, I would disagree...
>
>> No user-replaceable battery
>
> Incorrect, it's $20 for a user to replace the iPhone battery
Doesn't it require the user to send the phone in to Apple, and then pay
for a rental iPhone if they cannot be without one for more than 10 days?
or has Apple changed their stance on it? I did say 'user-replaceable'...
>
>> Poor PDA functionality
>
> Ah, I think you mean GREAT PDA functionality, Apple invented PDA's so
> this is just an extension of Apple's original dream.
Nope, I meant POOR... Apparently, what either of us look for in a PDA is
very different... and if you mean to bring up the Newton, I will give
you a 'Mulligan' on that... I owned one of those things...
>
>> Restrictive terms of use...
>
> ? Use is the exact same as any smartphone.
Not if you purchase an unlocked phone.. Granted, in the US, that means I
can use either ATT or T-Mobile, or a few other smaller independent
providers... but it is still a choice..
>
>> No memory expansion..
>
> Ah, you are forgetting how iTunes works, syncing makes for little need
> for expansion when iTunes does this automatically.
I have in excess of 7,000 songs, a number of videos, audiobooks, etc...
on my current iPod 5G Video.. If you think that having to 'plan' what
you want to listen to in advance and check off several hundred little
boxes is more efficient, than God Bless You... I would find it a
maddening waste of time... I spent enough time digitizing my entire
music library..
Fair enough.. but, and I know it's nit-picky, you have to pay for
iToner.. therefore you are still 'paying' for ringtones.. and the MS
Windows crowd is left out...
>
>> 2 Megapixel Camera
>
> Megapixels have little to do with image quality, the Lens in the iPhone
> is higher grade than most any smartphone or cellphone.
Megapixels/Image Quality.. really depends on what you want to do with
the image... my cell phone (5MP/Carl Zeiss Lens) takes awesome pictures,
but I do not use it to take family portraits..
>
>> No output to TV
>
> Apple offers cables to output TV from any iPhone or (most) any iPod.
Yes, I saw that in a different section on the Apple Website.. It was not
listed as an iPhone accessory. See a previous post..
>
>> VOIP?
>
> VoIP is still in the formative stages. iChat does this now so it's only
> a matter of time before it can be moved to the iPhone. Apple tends to
> wait until the time is right, not push out inferior products before they
> are ready.
VOIP is used by numerous corporations, large and small, for their main
telecommunications needs.. the technology has matured quite well,
certainly well beyond, the 'formative' stages.
I use it all the time.. more so than the standard cell phone... Voice
quality is perfectly fine... Again, the reason was probably more
dependent on ATT not wanting the iPhone to circumvent their 'per minute'
plans than any view that VOIP is an immature technology..
>
>> Touch Screen?
>
> Yes, it's the best on the market. The Multi-Touch tech is a revolution
> that only Apple will have for the next 17 years. The use of "Gestures"
> has been a long held research project of Apple. Even the CEO of MS was
> shocked / impressed by how good Apple did it with the iPhone.
>
I actually moved away from a touch screen entirely and haven't had to
look back... to each his own...
> Flicking through data with a single finger is unreal. The future of all
> phones in the 18 year time frame.
>
> -----
Again, to each his own.. It seems counter productive to me to obscure
half of what is already not already that big of a screen with a virtual
keyboard, then obscure even more with a finger..
Like everything else, we will see.. Remember the Newton? The Lisa?
They were all visions of the future, Apple will show the world, etc...
Not that Apple is the only company with products that didn't quite 'make
it'..
Look at MS... Anyone here remember Microsoft Bob? Steve Ballmer was
very impressed with that as well... It died a quiet and speedy death...
I am definitely NOT a MS fan, and their opinions or what they are
'impressed' by, mean very little to me.
The iPhone is a good phone for a 'basic' user, it is a very well
designed phone from an aesthetic standpoint, but it is NOT the greatest
thing since sliced bread, nor is it as an innovative product as Apple
Marketing would like you to believe...
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Arthur Shapiro wrote:
> In article <colalovesmacs-6DD99A.14373101112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>, Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:
>> iPhone is the invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
>
> So why are you cross-posting this to every group and its mother? I'm seeing
> this on the T-Mobile group, which I believe doesn't support that contraption.
>
> Art
Ah, yes. I believe it would be called SPAMMING.
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Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
Tony <t...@nospam.net> wrote:
> To each his own... But...
Exactly.
> Gene Jones wrote:
> >> No 3G
> > kills battery life, WiFi is much faster and more common / free.
> I tether my phone to either my laptop or a Nokia N800 frequently..
Wish my Blackberry could do that.
> >> No user-replaceable battery
>
> > Incorrect, it's $20 for a user to replace the iPhone battery
>
> Doesn't it require the user to send the phone in to Apple, and then pay
> for a rental iPhone if they cannot be without one for more than 10 days?
> or has Apple changed their stance on it? I did say 'user-replaceable'...
I've done ~$20 battery replacements on iPods...its not that hard, even
though its not consider to be "User" replaceable. Some "Batteries
Plus" franchise stores already offer iPod battery swaps (some while-u-
wait), so I'd expect them to expand their services to iPhones by the
time that they're coming out of warranty, and may similarly in some
areas be a while-u-wait service.
> >> Restrictive terms of use...
> > ? Use is the exact same as any smartphone.
>
> Not if you purchase an unlocked phone.. Granted, in the US, that means
> I can use either ATT or T-Mobile, or a few other smaller independent
> providers... but it is still a choice..
Kind of sounds like a silly option within the USA: "Be locked onto
AT&T or be unlocked and still on AT&T" :-) In general, I'd be more
concerned about the phone's free features being lobotimized by the
cellular provider to increase their service fees based profits (see:
Verizon); YMMV.
> >> 2 Megapixel Camera
>
> > Megapixels have little to do with image quality, the Lens in the iPhone
> > is higher grade than most any smartphone or cellphone.
>
> Megapixels/Image Quality.. really depends on what you want to do
> with the image... my cell phone (5MP/Carl Zeiss Lens) takes
> awesome pictures, but I do not use it to take family portraits..
That may be so, but its missing the point. The point is that for a
given chip size, the more pixels you cram onto it, the fewer photons
are available with which to integrate your signal, and the worse your
S/N ratio becomes: the trade-off is more pixels but with more noise,
versus fewer pixels with less noise.
What's been learned is that the noise levels are generally low and
okay up to a point, and then they go to hell. At what specific MP
count this happens depends on the size of the chip. From what I've
read, the S/N acceptability limit appears to be around 25-35MP for
fullframe dSLRs, 12-16MP for crop body dSLRs, the 7-10MP range for
most Point&Shoot digitals, and for cellphones, the limit's at around
4-5MP.
Of course, many people don't notice this, partly because they're not
really serious photographers, but also shooting under favorable
conditions: a nice sunny day, etc. Marginal and low light are
frequently auto-compensated for with higher ISO, and a higher ISO is
another way in which the photon collection rate S/N problem comes to
light. This is easy to test for yourself with a digital camera with
which you have full manual control...assuming of course that you
actually know what "noise" looks like in an image. See:
Re: iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine
"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-CD0056.19060901112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> nobody has done multi-touch before
Mmm... OK.
> nobody has done a real browser in a
> cell phone before
Yes, although there were other devices like the Nokia N800 that was touted as,
"link to your cell phone so that you can use a real web browser!" (The N800's
screen resolution is 800x480 -- more than the iPhone's). There were also some
Windows Mobile devices with 640x480 screens. But I agree that the iPhone has
done a lot to demonstrate that a higher-resolution screen and more
full-featured web browser is quite useful on a phone-type device.
What I'm saying here is that the browser in the iPhone is definitely more
"evolutionary" than "revolutionary"
> nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone itself, but
Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have long had *many*
iPod-like media players to choose from.
> workable visual voice mail another first. super slim size, incredible
> battery life, airport mode, international mode, on and on...
All of these have appeared in other phones over time. The iPhone's main
contributation is combining them all together in a relatively seamless manner
using multi-touch. The TIME article is correct that Steve Jobs main
contribution is that he considers style & usability to be on equal footing
with technology itself.
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