News: Apple already considering iPad price reduction

WOW!
News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?

Apple executives, speaking in a meeting with Credit Suisse analysts,
have suggested that the company is already considering price
reductions for its yet-to-be-released iPad tablet should early sales
of the device fail to live up to internal expectations. Citing Credit
Suisse analyst Bill Shope, the Wall Street Journal reports that Apple
wants the iPad to be the best device in several usage cases, including
consuming media and browsing the Internet.
--
My guess is a huge iPad back to School Sale in August.

Credit Suisse is the group that recently proclaimed, USA's biggest
cellular carrier, AT&T will continue with a USA Apple exclusive
locking Verizon out of any Apple relationship for 2010 and 2011.


That might be how we got unlimited no cap 3G data for only $30 on a
fabulous turn it on only when you need it AT&T data plan for the iPad.

On Feb 8, 5:40*pm, "iPad: Read e and save a tree"
<vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WOW!
> News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?
>
> Apple executives, speaking in a meeting with Credit Suisse analysts,
> have suggested that the company is already considering price
> reductions for its yet-to-be-released iPad tablet should early sales
> of the device fail to live up to internal expectations. Citing Credit
> Suisse analyst Bill Shope, the Wall Street Journal reports that Apple
> wants the iPad to be the best device in several usage cases, including
> consuming media and browsing the Internet.
> --
> My guess is a huge iPad back to School Sale in August.
>
> Credit Suisse is the group that recently proclaimed, USA's biggest
> cellular carrier, AT&T will continue with a USA Apple exclusive
> locking Verizon out of any Apple relationship for 2010 and 2011.
>
> That might be how we got unlimited no cap 3G data for only $30 on a
> fabulous turn it on only when you need it AT&T data plan for the iPad.

Consumers lose interest in iPad after Apple's unveiling - survey

By Katie Marsal
Published: 10:15 AM EST


Despite a highly publicized public debut, potential customers lost a
great deal of interest in Apple's new touchscreen iPad after it was
unveiled, a new study has found.

A survey of more than 1,000 randomly selected customers at the online
marketplace Retrevo found that 52 percent of respondents have heard of
Apple's iPad, but are not interested in buying one. Another 18 percent
said they had not heard of the product, but also were not interested.

Prior to the product's unveiling, 26 percent of those surveyed had
heard of the then-mythical "Apple tablet," but were not interested in
buying one. That total doubled after the iPad's official Jan. 26
unveiling.

"It's the apps that sell smartphones like the iPhone and it could very
well be those same apps that motivate buyers to run down to the Apple
Store and get in line to buy a shiny new iPad," the company said.
"Whether this device becomes a big hit is anyone’s guess but based on
this study it sure looks doubtful."

The survey found that awareness of the iPad is high -- more than 80
percent of respondents said they had heard of Apple's product. Of
those, 21 percent said they need more information on the iPad before
they purchase, and 9 percent said they would likely buy one. The
company even tracked conversations on Twitter, and found the iPad
announcement rivaled talk of the U.S. presidential State of the Union
address, held the same day.

The survey results suggest consumers may not see how the iPad would
fit into their lives. While 5 percent said they "definitely" need one,
61 percent said they do not think they need an iPad.

In addition, the $130 premium cost to add 3G connectivity was found to
be a turn-off for potential buyers. While 12 percent would pay the
extra money for 3G and 29 percent would think about it, 59 percent of
respondents said they would not pay any extra for 3G.

Retrevo 1


Retrevo's latest survey was conducted between Jan. 27 and Feb. 3
following Apple's announcement of the iPad, starting at $499 and
scheduled to arrive in late March. The results were compared to a
previous study done between Jan. 16 and Jan. 20, before the iPad was
unveiled.

Retrevo 2


Last week, another study of medical professionals found that one in
five physicians said they are likely to purchase an iPad. Of more than
350 clinicians surveyed, 9 percent said they plan to buy the product
immediately, while another 13 percent intend to purchase one in the
first year.

Analysts mostly expect the iPad to have a moderate but successful
start, selling between one million and five million in its first year.
The product's aggressive $499 starting price is seen to be its
greatest asset. One analyst believes a sales "catalyst" must emerge --
as the iTunes Store did for the iPod, and App Store for the iPhone --
before the iPad sees significant growth.

iPad: Read e and save a tree wrote:
> WOW!
> News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?
>


What do you mean already? They were considering it in the
engineering phase, and the first reduction will come 6 months after it
goes on sale.


--
..



"A smorgasbord of tomfoolery" - L0afy

On Feb 8, 5:40*pm, "iPad: Read e and save a tree"
<vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WOW!
> News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?
>
> Apple executives, speaking in a meeting with Credit Suisse analysts,
> have suggested that the company is already considering price
> reductions for its yet-to-be-released iPad tablet should early sales
> of the device fail to live up to internal expectations. Citing Credit
> Suisse analyst Bill Shope, the Wall Street Journal reports that Apple
> wants the iPad to be the best device in several usage cases, including
> consuming media and browsing the Internet.

What you will likely see is a 64GB non-3G model at the $499 price
point. The $499 price point was great marketing, but as everyone
quickly realized a 64GB, 3G model, with the connectivity kit, is going
to cost nearly $1000. They really need only two models--with and
without 3G. With a lot of new tablets hitting the market, they have to
be very careful about pricing.

> Credit Suisse is the group that recently proclaimed, USA's biggest
> cellular carrier,

AT&T is not the USA's biggest cellular carrier, they are the 2nd
biggest.

On Feb 10, 7:03*am, SMS <scharf.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 5:40*pm, "iPad: Read e and save a tree"
>
> <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > WOW!
> > News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?
>
> > Apple executives, speaking in a meeting with Credit Suisse analysts,
> > have suggested that the company is already considering price
> > reductions for its yet-to-be-released iPad tablet should early sales
> > of the device fail to live up to internal expectations. Citing Credit
> > Suisse analyst Bill Shope, the Wall Street Journal reports that Apple
> > wants the iPad to be the best device in several usage cases, including
> > consuming media and browsing the Internet.
>
> What you will likely see is a 64GB non-3G model at the $499 price
> point. The $499 price point was great marketing, but as everyone
> quickly realized a 64GB, 3G model, with the connectivity kit, is going
> to cost nearly $1000. They really need only two models--with and
> without 3G. With a lot of new tablets hitting the market, they have to
> be very careful about pricing.
>

Well you might see this much later but for now they appear to already
sold out with the current pricing.

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:03:53 -0800 (PST), SMS <scharf.steven@gmail.com>
wrote in
<1c9cc8a7-e8d5-4534-b42f-f76581bca460@c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 8, 5:40*pm, "iPad: Read e and save a tree"
><vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> WOW!
>> News: Apple already considering iPad price reductions?
>>
>> Apple executives, speaking in a meeting with Credit Suisse analysts,
>> have suggested that the company is already considering price
>> reductions for its yet-to-be-released iPad tablet should early sales
>> of the device fail to live up to internal expectations. Citing Credit
>> Suisse analyst Bill Shope, the Wall Street Journal reports that Apple
>> wants the iPad to be the best device in several usage cases, including
>> consuming media and browsing the Internet.
>
>What you will likely see is a 64GB non-3G model at the $499 price
>point. The $499 price point was great marketing, but as everyone
>quickly realized a 64GB, 3G model, with the connectivity kit, is going
>to cost nearly $1000. They really need only two models--with and
>without 3G. With a lot of new tablets hitting the market, they have to
>be very careful about pricing.

Nonsense. Apple has a standard practice of high pricing at launch,
harvesting iFans dumb enough to stand in line to pay full retail, later
dropping the price to whatever level is needed to keep demand high.

>> Credit Suisse is the group that recently proclaimed, USA's biggest
>> cellular carrier,
>
>AT&T is not the USA's biggest cellular carrier, they are the 2nd
>biggest.

More nonsense, not that it matters to anyone without your agenda.
It must really gall you that your all your iPhone forecasts have proven
to be dead wrong.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

In article
<e00e4cf1-fe14-47c9-a21a-c1af6e0c518f@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, No
iPad 4U - SOLD OUT! <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well you might see this much later but for now they appear to already
> sold out with the current pricing.

it's not for sale yet.

In article <bfh5n5t1dqqaaf02to2kfofjour3jllm28@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> Nonsense. Apple has a standard practice of high pricing at launch,
> harvesting iFans dumb enough to stand in line to pay full retail, later
> dropping the price to whatever level is needed to keep demand high.

ignoring your pejorative jabs, that's normal for most companies and
actually apple doesn't do it anywhere near as much as you suggest.

nospam wrote:
> In article
> <e00e4cf1-fe14-47c9-a21a-c1af6e0c518f@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, No
> iPad 4U - SOLD OUT! <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well you might see this much later but for now they appear to already
>> sold out with the current pricing.
>
> it's not for sale yet.
>
Yeah, explain his post to me. It lost me entirely.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-...OE02122010FEA1

Apple has been touting its iPad since it was first announced a few weeks ago. But after the hype wears off and we take an
honest look at the iPad, we quickly find that there are some major flaws with the company's tablet device that it just
doesn't want us to know about. When a consumer picks up the iPad expecting a top-of-the-line experience, they might be
surprised to learn that it can't quite provide that. They might be even more upset when they find out that the iPad isn't
as appealing as Steve Jobs wants the world to believe. So before you pick one up, let's take a look at what Apple doesn't
want you to know about the iPad.

Hobbled Web surfing
Although Steve Jobs didn't talk about it during his keynote, the device's browser doesn't support Flash. That omission
ensures that a large percentage of Websites won't work on the iPad. It also ensures that some elements of popular
Websites that don't entirely rely upon Flash won't work either. It's a major problem.

No multitasking
Those who are hoping to work in iWork and surf the Web at the same time will be disappointed with the iPad. Once again,
Steve Jobs failed to mention that, due to iPad software limitations, users won't be able to multitask. Being able to work
with multiple programs is not only a desired feature in today's tablet space, but it's quickly becoming a necessity.

Where's the video output?
Although the iPad will boast HD content through iTunes, a quick glance around the iPad reveals that there isn't a video
output slot, making it impossible for users to transfer video content to an HDTV or monitor. For now, it seems that the
iPad's video capabilities will rely only on iTunes.

Try printing
When a user receives an important e-mail on their Mac and decides to print it out, they simply click the "print" button
and do it. The iPad doesn't boast that luxury. Although Apple is marketing the iPad as the device that can bridge the gap
between the iPhone and the laptop, the company's tablet computer won't allow for printing to a connected device. It's a
major omission that could make some think twice about the iPad.

No DVD/Blu-ray drive
The iPad lacks an optical drive. Admittedly, the iPad is meant to be a mobile product that won't replace a computer. But
if Apple wants to market it as an entertainment product, wouldn't it make sense to make it easy for users to view or rip
movies and television shows on the device?

The $499 version is not a deal
Some point to the iPad's $499 price tag as a reason to pick up the device. Let's be honest, the $499 version lacks 3G and
it has the smallest available hard drive. The device's price tag is great for folks who want to only use the iPad at home
and won't add much content to it, but the iPad is meant to be a portable iPod Touch that can house entertainment content.
A 16GB hard drive with no 3G connectivity won't adequately deliver that experience.

Reading won't be fun
Since the iPad doesn't offer E-Ink technology or an OLED (Organic Light-Emitting Diod)] display, reading on its display
might be difficult for extended periods. It's another feature that Apple has glossed over. Yes, the iPad's technology
allows for viewing e-books in color, but E-Ink is so successful as an e-reader technology because it mimics a real book
and allows for longer reading periods without eye strain. The iPad will be like reading a book on a larger iPhone
display. That's probably not best for most readers.

Forget about USB
Although Steve Jobs touts the iPad's many built-in features, what about all those peripherals that users might want to
add to the device? Since it lacks a USB (and FireWire) port, connecting to peripherals won't be so easy. Admittedly,
Apple has said that the dock will be used for some add-ons, but that requires users to buy yet another device to get
their products to work. Omitting a USB port was a major blunder on Apple's part.

The apps won't all work well
Apple spent considerable time with developers showing off applications for the iPad. It even said that every app in the
App Store will run on the iPad without any extra tinkering on the developer's part. That said, it conveniently glossed
over the fact that any app that hasn't been updated to work with the iPad won't fit the device's display. That's a
bummer.

There are potentially better products out there
Steve Jobs said the iPad was revolutionary during the iPad announcement. But further inspection reveals that it's really
nothing more than a larger iPod Touch. More importantly, it's competing in a space where several products, including
those from Dell and HP, might provide a better tablet experience. Of course, Apple doesn't want users to know about the
competition. But they might be surprised to learn that when it comes to tablets, the iPad isn't necessarily the best
offering.

Ness-Net wrote:
>
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-...OE02122010FEA1
>
>
> Apple has been touting its iPad since it was first announced a few weeks
> ago. But after the hype wears off and we take an honest look at the
> iPad, we quickly find that there are some major flaws with the company's
> tablet device that it just doesn't want us to know about. When a
> consumer picks up the iPad expecting a top-of-the-line experience, they
> might be surprised to learn that it can't quite provide that. They might
> be even more upset when they find out that the iPad isn't as appealing
> as Steve Jobs wants the world to believe. So before you pick one up,
> let's take a look at what Apple doesn't want you to know about the iPad.
>
> Hobbled Web surfing
> Although Steve Jobs didn't talk about it during his keynote, the
> device's browser doesn't support Flash. That omission ensures that a
> large percentage of Websites won't work on the iPad. It also ensures
> that some elements of popular Websites that don't entirely rely upon
> Flash won't work either. It's a major problem.
>
> No multitasking
> Those who are hoping to work in iWork and surf the Web at the same time
> will be disappointed with the iPad. Once again, Steve Jobs failed to
> mention that, due to iPad software limitations, users won't be able to
> multitask. Being able to work with multiple programs is not only a
> desired feature in today's tablet space, but it's quickly becoming a
> necessity.
>
> Where's the video output?
> Although the iPad will boast HD content through iTunes, a quick glance
> around the iPad reveals that there isn't a video output slot, making it
> impossible for users to transfer video content to an HDTV or monitor.
> For now, it seems that the iPad's video capabilities will rely only on
> iTunes.
>
> Try printing
> When a user receives an important e-mail on their Mac and decides to
> print it out, they simply click the "print" button and do it. The iPad
> doesn't boast that luxury. Although Apple is marketing the iPad as the
> device that can bridge the gap between the iPhone and the laptop, the
> company's tablet computer won't allow for printing to a connected
> device. It's a major omission that could make some think twice about the
> iPad.
>
> No DVD/Blu-ray drive
> The iPad lacks an optical drive. Admittedly, the iPad is meant to be a
> mobile product that won't replace a computer. But if Apple wants to
> market it as an entertainment product, wouldn't it make sense to make it
> easy for users to view or rip movies and television shows on the device?
>
> The $499 version is not a deal
> Some point to the iPad's $499 price tag as a reason to pick up the
> device. Let's be honest, the $499 version lacks 3G and it has the
> smallest available hard drive. The device's price tag is great for folks
> who want to only use the iPad at home and won't add much content to it,
> but the iPad is meant to be a portable iPod Touch that can house
> entertainment content. A 16GB hard drive with no 3G connectivity won't
> adequately deliver that experience.
>
> Reading won't be fun
> Since the iPad doesn't offer E-Ink technology or an OLED (Organic
> Light-Emitting Diod)] display, reading on its display might be difficult
> for extended periods. It's another feature that Apple has glossed over.
> Yes, the iPad's technology allows for viewing e-books in color, but
> E-Ink is so successful as an e-reader technology because it mimics a
> real book and allows for longer reading periods without eye strain. The
> iPad will be like reading a book on a larger iPhone display. That's
> probably not best for most readers.
>
> Forget about USB
> Although Steve Jobs touts the iPad's many built-in features, what about
> all those peripherals that users might want to add to the device? Since
> it lacks a USB (and FireWire) port, connecting to peripherals won't be
> so easy. Admittedly, Apple has said that the dock will be used for some
> add-ons, but that requires users to buy yet another device to get their
> products to work. Omitting a USB port was a major blunder on Apple's part.
>
> The apps won't all work well
> Apple spent considerable time with developers showing off applications
> for the iPad. It even said that every app in the App Store will run on
> the iPad without any extra tinkering on the developer's part. That said,
> it conveniently glossed over the fact that any app that hasn't been
> updated to work with the iPad won't fit the device's display. That's a
> bummer.
>
> There are potentially better products out there
> Steve Jobs said the iPad was revolutionary during the iPad announcement.
> But further inspection reveals that it's really nothing more than a
> larger iPod Touch. More importantly, it's competing in a space where
> several products, including those from Dell and HP, might provide a
> better tablet experience. Of course, Apple doesn't want users to know
> about the competition. But they might be surprised to learn that when it
> comes to tablets, the iPad isn't necessarily the best offering.
>
>


Let the rationalizations begin!

In article <kvWdnUbXfKtgHejWnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Ness-Net
<richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

> Hobbled Web surfing

it's not hobbled. it's the same safari that's on the desktop. the only
issue is flash and it's not as big of a deal as people make it out to
be. youtube video links automatically get the h.264 stream, for
example.

> No multitasking

it has multitasking.

> Where's the video output?

via the dock connector.

> Try printing

there are plenty of apps that support printing on the iphone *now*.

> No DVD/Blu-ray drive

***. why would there be a dvd drive in an ipad?

> The $499 version is not a deal

for some it is, for others it isn't.

> Reading won't be fun

nonsense.

> Forget about USB

oh? how do you think it connects to the computer? a usb cable is
*included* and there's an optional usb camera connector.

> The apps won't all work well

they work well now, and new apps will be even better.

> There are potentially better products out there

there are better products and worse products. different people have
different needs.

On Feb 12, 11:25*am, "Ness-Net" <richard.nod...@nessnet.spam.com>
wrote:

MORON ALERT!

>
> No DVD/Blu-ray drive
> The iPad lacks an optical drive. Admittedly, the iPad is meant to be a mobile product that won't replace a computer. But
> if Apple wants to market it as an entertainment product, wouldn't it makesense to make it easy for users to view or rip
> movies and television shows on the device?
>

No one uses devices like this to 'rip DVDs'.
As a matter of fact I have two high end DVDs and I only use them to
rip DVD to HD. Most of our media is now STREAMED to the screen we are
going to use to look at it with.

The iPad is a perfect streaming receiver.

We use NetFlix as 90% of the rest of the US and get the occasional DVD
but stream 85% of all content we get from NetFlix.

As far as we are concerned BlockBuster is DEAD and we have a big one a
couple of blocks away. I haven't been in that place for about two
years now.

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:21:48 -0800 (PST), "Adobe = Security Breech"
<vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
<0caa466f-b508-436a-8a32-a3275d2c61aa@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 12, 11:25*am, "Ness-Net" <richard.nod...@nessnet.spam.com>
>wrote:
>
>MORON ALERT!

And again.

>> No DVD/Blu-ray drive
>> The iPad lacks an optical drive. Admittedly, the iPad is meant to be a mobile product that won't replace a computer. But
>> if Apple wants to market it as an entertainment product, wouldn't it make sense to make it easy for users to view or rip
>> movies and television shows on the device?
>
>No one uses devices like this to 'rip DVDs'.

It would actually be nice to be able to rip DVDs and compress them for
later viewing.

>As a matter of fact I have two high end DVDs and I only use them to
>rip DVD to HD. Most of our media is now STREAMED to the screen we are
>going to use to look at it with.
>
>The iPad is a perfect streaming receiver.

On (say) an airplane?

"It's not a limitation, it's a feature!"

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

"News" <News@Group.Name> wrote in message
newsOudneGearnSH-jWnZ2dnUVZ_r9i4p2d@speakeasy.net...
>
> Let the rationalizations begin!

Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies, nonsense
and brainless idiocy. Even remotely trying to convince such an idiot of
reality is just wasting time.

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:40:13 +1300, "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com>
wrote in <hl4e8i$39m$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>:

>"News" <News@Group.Name> wrote in message
>newsOudneGearnSH-jWnZ2dnUVZ_r9i4p2d@speakeasy.net...
>>
>> Let the rationalizations begin!
>
>Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies, nonsense
>and brainless idiocy. ...

aka facts.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

On 2/12/10 3:21 PM, in article shhbn5dodpi1cdfu0cqdpqns4k9vgp07dr@4ax.com,
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:40:13 +1300, "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com>
> wrote in <hl4e8i$39m$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>:
>
>> "News" <News@Group.Name> wrote in message
>> newsOudneGearnSH-jWnZ2dnUVZ_r9i4p2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>
>>> Let the rationalizations begin!
>>
>> Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies, nonsense
>> and brainless idiocy. ...
>
> aka facts.
NavASS, you wouldn't know a fact from a pile of ****.

In article <ujabn59o2os06ld11147581k2p3ro27m8h@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >No one uses devices like this to 'rip DVDs'.
>
> It would actually be nice to be able to rip DVDs and compress them for
> later viewing.

do that on a desktop computer, which is probably faster than any
portable, then copy the file to the portable device.

there is absolutely no reason to put a dvd or blu-ray drive in an ipad.

> >The iPad is a perfect streaming receiver.
>
> On (say) an airplane?

on board wifi is available on many flights and it's fast enough for
streaming, and if you encode a video, as above, you won't need to
stream at all.

people use kindles on airplanes all the time, even when there is no
wifi.

> "It's not a limitation, it's a feature!"

it's not a limitation.

In article <shhbn5dodpi1cdfu0cqdpqns4k9vgp07dr@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies, nonsense
> >and brainless idiocy. ...
>
> aka facts.

nonsense. frequently the anti-apple ******** is easily disproven.

In article <michelle-C383EC.16570312022010@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > there is absolutely no reason to put a dvd or blu-ray drive in an ipad.
>
> Sure there is: to make it bigger, heavier, and ungainly, so it will be
> like a Windroid's wet dream.

there is that.

nospam wrote:
> In article <shhbn5dodpi1cdfu0cqdpqns4k9vgp07dr@4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>> Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies, nonsense
>>> and brainless idiocy. ...
>> aka facts.
>
> nonsense. frequently the anti-apple ******** is easily disproven.

Is it important? To the users of five cell phone newsgroups at least
one of which (alt.cellular.verizon) is not related in any way to the
iPad??????

PLEASE!!! TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!!

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <120220101522151897%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> there is absolutely no reason to put a dvd or blu-ray drive in an ipad.
>
> Sure there is: to make it bigger, heavier, and ungainly

It's already a drinks tray. What did you have in mind, a pizza platter?

Not Me wrote:
> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <120220101522151897%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> there is absolutely no reason to put a dvd or blu-ray drive in an ipad.
>>
>> Sure there is: to make it bigger, heavier, and ungainly
>
> It's already a drinks tray. What did you have in mind, a pizza platter?

Why must you post this gibberish to alt.cellular.verizon?

PLEASE! Take it somewhere else?

In article <120220101522172033%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <shhbn5dodpi1cdfu0cqdpqns4k9vgp07dr@4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > >Nope. It's just the usual anti-Apple rant made up of complete lies,
> > >nonsense and brainless idiocy. ...
> >
> > aka facts.
>
> nonsense. frequently the anti-apple ******** is easily disproven.

Usually by simply reading Apple's web page for the product or actually
using the product for at least five second.

In article <-o6dnT4biLfbZejWnZ2dnUVZ_jdi4p2d@speakeasy.net>, Not Me
<Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > In article <120220101522151897%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> there is absolutely no reason to put a dvd or blu-ray drive in an ipad.
> >
> > Sure there is: to make it bigger, heavier, and ungainly
>
> It's already a drinks tray. What did you have in mind, a pizza platter?

You're thinking of the Windoze tablet, which does include a DVD drive, but
only so people can use the DVD tray as a pop-out cup holder. ;-)

In article <120220101522151897%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam@nospam.invalid says...
>
> on board wifi is available on many flights and it's fast enough for
> streaming, and if you encode a video, as above, you won't need to
> stream at all.
>
>
>

What flights are you talking about? No Wifi here in Australia, and
although I travel worldwide quite frequently, I've never yet come across
Wifi on a plane. And I fly business class too...

I'm flying Singapore Airlines business class on an Airbus A380 from
Australia to London and back again in May - I must look for the Wifi...!

--

NightStalker

On 2010-02-12, John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> "It's not a limitation, it's a feature!"

John, is there any chance you could configure your newsreader to give
identifiable Message-IDs to your posts (e.g. ending in @navasgroup.com),
so that those of us who wish to do so may easily kill-file both your
posts and other posts which are follow-ups to your posts?

A quick google sugests that putting "MsgIdRHS=navasgroup.com" in your
AGENT.INI file should suffice.

In article <MPG.25e10707451435179898e3@news-europe.giganews.com>,
NightStalker <NightStalker@somewhere.or.other> wrote:

> What flights are you talking about? No Wifi here in Australia, and
> although I travel worldwide quite frequently, I've never yet come across
> Wifi on a plane.

<http://www.gogoinflight.com/>
<http://www.row44.com/>

> And I fly business class too...

doesn't matter, it's on the entire plane.

> I'm flying Singapore Airlines business class on an Airbus A380 from
> Australia to London and back again in May - I must look for the Wifi...!

gogo uses base stations on land (think cellphones but *much* bigger
cells) while row 44 is satellite based and can work over water. gogo is
in a lot of planes, while row 44 is not. southwest and alaska have
selected row 44 and they only have a couple of planes so far.

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC), Jon Ribbens
<jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
<slrnhnd7ri.gtv.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>:

>On 2010-02-12, John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> "It's not a limitation, it's a feature!"
>
>John, is there any chance you could configure your newsreader to give
>identifiable Message-IDs to your posts (e.g. ending in @navasgroup.com),
>so that those of us who wish to do so may easily kill-file both your
>posts and other posts which are follow-ups to your posts?
>
>A quick google sugests that putting "MsgIdRHS=navasgroup.com" in your
>AGENT.INI file should suffice.

Done.
You're welcome.


--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

"When the superior scholar hears of Tao, he diligently practises it.
When the average scholar hears of Tao, he sometimes retains it,
sometimes loses it. When the inferior scholar hears of Tao, he loudly
laughs at it. Were it not thus ridiculed, it would not be worthy of the
name of Tao." [Lao-Tzu]

On 2010-02-13, John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC), Jon Ribbens
><jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
><slrnhnd7ri.gtv.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>:
>
>>On 2010-02-12, John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>> "It's not a limitation, it's a feature!"
>>
>>John, is there any chance you could configure your newsreader to give
>>identifiable Message-IDs to your posts (e.g. ending in @navasgroup.com),
>>so that those of us who wish to do so may easily kill-file both your
>>posts and other posts which are follow-ups to your posts?
>>
>>A quick google sugests that putting "MsgIdRHS=navasgroup.com" in your
>>AGENT.INI file should suffice.
>
> Done.
> You're welcome.
>

Much appreciated. *plonk* ;-)