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Old 11-04-2007, 04:10 PM
John Navas
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Default NEWS: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

<http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139240-c,google/article.html>

Google negotiators this weekend continue to hammer out agreements
with wireless carriers, handset makers, software developers, and
hardware providers, as the company prepares to announce on Monday an
ambitious platform for creating mobile applications.

Although Google has declined to comment for months on its rumored
move into the mobile space, sources said the company will make an
announcement Monday at 11 a.m. Eastern Time, and that details of the
plan are being finalized this weekend.

AppDev Tools, Partners Poised

Google will announce an open source development platform for mobile
applications that will contain a full set of components, including an
operating system, a set of common APIs, a middleware layer, a
customizable user interface, and even a mobile browser, sources said.
Instant messaging standard protocols will also be supported.

The platform is intended to simplify the process of creating and
deploying mobile applications, so that an application can be built
once and be compatible with multiple phones.

On the partner side, well over 30 industry heavyweights are already
on board, including Intel, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nvidia, Sprint Nextel,
T-Mobile, China Mobile, Telefonica, NTT DoCoMo, LG Electronics, and
HTC, the sources said.

With negotiations expected to continue through the weekend and into
Monday morning, it's possible that the list could exceed 40 partners.
Among those not supporting the announcement at press time are Nokia,
Verizon and Apple.

[MORE]

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Old 11-04-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

John Navas wrote:
>
> The platform is intended to simplify the process of creating and
> deploying mobile applications, so that an application can be built
> once and be compatible with multiple phones.
>


Where have I heard this before? Oh yea, Java.


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Old 11-04-2007, 04:48 PM
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> Among those not supporting the announcement at press time are Nokia,
> Verizon and Apple.


Color me surprised!

Uh... Open Source? Verizon? Apple? Sure. Right! No way jose! Not ever!

-Frank

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Old 11-04-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

In article <89ednYLCpf1-arDanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:

> > Among those not supporting the announcement at press time are Nokia,
> > Verizon and Apple.

>
> Color me surprised!
>
> Uh... Open Source? Verizon? Apple? Sure. Right! No way jose! Not ever!


This sounds a little like the Openmoko project, although presumably it
isn't using Linux. Does anyone here know how that's coming along?

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Old 11-05-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: NEWS: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:mirri3hcs1r8oqcpi8bbhina2m26pqlnbc@4ax.com:

> Google negotiators this weekend continue to hammer out

agreements
> with wireless carriers, handset makers, software developers,

and
> hardware providers, as the company prepares to announce on

Monday an
> ambitious platform for creating mobile applications.
>


We already have an ambitious mobile platform!
http://www.nseries.com/n800
Sprint has picked the N800 to flagship its WiMax rollout!
The platform is Maemo Linux:
http://www.maemo.org/

Gone to N800 but miss your Palm Pilot? NO PROBLEMO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPF19gypbGo
N800 runs Palm OS 4.1...(c;


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Old 11-05-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:

> > Among those not supporting the announcement at press time are Nokia,
> > Verizon and Apple.

>
> Color me surprised!
>
> Uh... Open Source? Verizon? Apple? Sure. Right! No way jose! Not ever!


Earth to "Frankster". most everything apple does is opensource. they
haven't been closedsourced for over a decade.

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

please try and keep up.

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Old 11-05-2007, 04:14 AM
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:mirri3hcs1r8oqcpi8bbhina2m26pqlnbc@4ax.com...

> Google will announce an open source development platform for mobile
> applications that will contain a full set of components, including an
> operating system, a set of common APIs, a middleware layer, a
> customizable user interface, and even a mobile browser, sources said.
> Instant messaging standard protocols will also be supported.


I can't help but ponder the privacy implications. What kind of agreements
are being made between Google and the carriers? Will Google be gaining
access to your name, cell #, billing address? Will Google be gaining
access to your call history? Acquiring GPS data? Will people be backing
up their contact list to Google? Will it be mining text messages? Heck,
voice recognition is a key feature of phones, so might as well ask whether
it will be mining the voice conversations themselves.





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Old 11-05-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, none wrote:
> Earth to "Frankster". most everything apple does is opensource. they
> haven't been closedsourced for over a decade.


The only thing that Apple has that is open source is a stripped down
operating system called Darwin, including the XNU kernel. With Apple's
open source, you can boot a system and get to a UNIX shell. So if you
want a time machine back to the world of 1980, Apple's open source will
get you that. But all the GUI stuff and all of the Apple applications are
very much closed source.

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Old 11-05-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default NEWS: Google pushes into mobile phones

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7078921.stm>

Google has unveiled software it hopes will power a variety of future
mobile phones and boost the web on the move.

The software could lead to cheaper phones as it is designed to speed
up the process of making mobile services.

The firm is working with four mobile manufacturers - Samsung, HTC,
Motorola and LG - but a Google branded phone was not announced.

The first phones using the so-called Google "software stack" will be
available in the second half of 2008.

...

Google has formed the Open Handset Alliance, made up of 34 companies,
including chip manufacturers and handset makers.

The move will be seen as a major competitor to Microsoft, Research in
Motion, Palm and Symbian, who make the leading software systems for
mobiles.

Google's Android software will be provided to handset makers free of
charge and could lead to a price war for operating system licenses
and potentially cheaper handsets.

In the United States mobile networks such as Sprint Nextel and
T-Mobile will carry the Google-powered phones.

...

"This is a shot that is going to be heard around the world, but it's
just the first shot in what is going to be a very protracted battle
in the next frontier of the mobile web," said analyst Michael
Gartenberg, at Jupiter Research.

...

Adam Leach, principal analyst with Ovum, said: "It's an important
announcement. That number of companies already committing to the
service is very impressive."

[MORE]

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Old 11-05-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: NEWS: Google pushes into mobile phones

John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

so guess this ends the story on Google ever coming out with a Phone.

I'm kinda sad, thought Google could pull it off, but it will remain a
nobody if the only contribution they can make is software. Nobody will
buy it that way.

Google serious screwed up, expect a big drop in the stock price on this
news.

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Old 11-05-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, none wrote:
> > Earth to "Frankster". most everything apple does is opensource. they
> > haven't been closedsourced for over a decade.

>
> The only thing that Apple has that is open source is a stripped down
> operating system called Darwin, including the XNU kernel. With Apple's
> open source, you can boot a system and get to a UNIX shell. So if you
> want a time machine back to the world of 1980, Apple's open source will
> get you that. But all the GUI stuff and all of the Apple applications are
> very much closed source.


yes, but it's still 100% more OPEN than Microsoft's OS's allows you to
do, thus OSX is the most OPEN OS in wide use by far.

Linux .74%
OSX 6.64%

Do the math Mark.

Apple allows programmers complete freedom, MS does not.

http://www.apple.com/opensource/

http://www.boydcreative.net/apple/to...rce-os-x-apps/

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/

http://www.opensourcemac.org/

http://www.macosforge.org/

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

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Old 11-05-2007, 10:34 PM
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Mark Thompson wrote:
> yes, but it's still 100% more OPEN than Microsoft's OS's allows you to
> do, thus OSX is the most OPEN OS in wide use by far.


Nonsense. Linux is far more open than OS X, and runs are far more
machines.

When is Apple going to allow OS X to run on machines not made by Apple?

Sheesh. Apple fanboys are stupid.

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Old 11-05-2007, 11:09 PM
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:09:46 -0700, Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net>
wrote in <markt-B48EDB.13094605112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>:

>John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>so guess this ends the story on Google ever coming out with a Phone.


Not so. Take the time to actually read the story.

>I'm kinda sad, thought Google could pull it off, but it will remain a
>nobody if the only contribution they can make is software. Nobody will
>buy it that way.
>
>Google serious screwed up, expect a big drop in the stock price on this
>news.


That's a joke, right? LOL

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: Google to Announce Mobile Platform on Monday

In article <xOudnWmZHfwMBbPanZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Sudohnim" <Sudohnim@example.invalid> wrote:

> I can't help but ponder the privacy implications. What kind of agreements
> are being made between Google and the carriers? Will Google be gaining
> access to your name, cell #, billing address? Will Google be gaining
> access to your call history? Acquiring GPS data? Will people be backing
> up their contact list to Google? Will it be mining text messages? Heck,
> voice recognition is a key feature of phones, so might as well ask whether
> it will be mining the voice conversations themselves.


isn't the government already illegally doing that? and isn't that one
reason bush wants to grant the telecoms immunity ... so they can't
implicate him and his administration in some of their crimes?

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: NEWS: Google pushes into mobile phones

John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7078921.stm


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7070929.stm
This one's a better read....(c;

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:47 AM
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Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in news:markt-
B48EDB.13094605112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net:

> Google serious screwed up, expect a big drop in the stock price

on this
> news.
>
>


http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GOOG&t=5y
Closed up 14.40 (2.02%) on the news at $725.65.
Notice how the chart makes a really steep climb near the end in
the panic selling on this news.....er, ah....since about
September as it shot up $200/share on buyer panic selling in
anticipation of this news.

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Sure wish I'd bought some shares when it was $120....nuts!
Today was a down day on Wall Street, but panic selling boosted
Google over 2%, anyways.

Bullshit.....pure Bullshit.

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