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Old 04-30-2009, 03:26 PM
John Navas
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Default NEWS: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8027098.stm>

Mobile phone sales have plummeted by a record amount in the first
quarter of 2009 as the global financial crisis sapped demand, a
research firm said.

The number of phones shipped worldwide in the first three months of
the year dropped by 13% to 245 million units from the same period
last year.

Strategy Analytics said all of the five biggest mobile phone-makers
had drops in sales.

But Apple's iPhone defied the gloom to post a 123% annual gain in
sales.

Strategy Analytics said the previous worst quarter for mobile phone
sales was in the third quarter of 2001.

Massive declines

Nokia, the world's largest mobile phone maker, had a market share of
38% in the quarter. That is three percentage points less than a year
earlier.

Its sales dropped 19% to 115.5 million units.

Motorola and Sony Ericsson had the biggest sales drops, according to
Strategy Analytics.

Motorola's sales fell 46% to 14.7 million units, and Sony Ericsson
shipped 14.5 million handsets, down 40% from the first quarter of
2008.

Samsung sales fell 1% to 46.3 million units. And Korea's LG had a 7%
drop in sales, to 24.4 million units.

The iPhone, the first phone by computing firm Apple, had sales of 3.8
million, up from 1.7 million units the previous year.

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Old 04-30-2009, 11:40 PM
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8027098.stm>
>
> Mobile phone sales have plummeted by a record amount in the first
> quarter of 2009 as the global financial crisis sapped demand, a
> research firm said.
>
> The number of phones shipped worldwide in the first three months of
> the year dropped by 13% to 245 million units from the same period
> last year.


Well in the UK SP's are now offering SIM only deals, both to save them (and
customers) the cost of upgrading and to reduce finance requirements.

Most phones in the last few years have most of the features that most people
want, so the desire to keep upgrading has probably diminshed as well.

> SNIP




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Old 05-06-2009, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

On 2009-04-30, R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:fpgjv4ldpnue1eoi0c4qhbdv3p1fjt1smg@4ax.com...
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8027098.stm>
>>
>> Mobile phone sales have plummeted by a record amount in the first
>> quarter of 2009 as the global financial crisis sapped demand, a
>> research firm said.
>>
>> The number of phones shipped worldwide in the first three months of
>> the year dropped by 13% to 245 million units from the same period
>> last year.

>
> Well in the UK SP's are now offering SIM only deals, both to save them (and
> customers) the cost of upgrading and to reduce finance requirements.
>
> Most phones in the last few years have most of the features that most people
> want, so the desire to keep upgrading has probably diminshed as well.


Also - at least from what I've seen on Orange, on my tariff which was
originally a 12-month contract, upgrades became an 18-month contract
extension - so by being able to upgrade less often I'd get a newer phone
less often.

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Old 05-06-2009, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

Soruk wrote:
> On 2009-04-30, R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:fpgjv4ldpnue1eoi0c4qhbdv3p1fjt1smg@4ax.com...
>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8027098.stm>
>>>
>>> Mobile phone sales have plummeted by a record amount in the first
>>> quarter of 2009 as the global financial crisis sapped demand, a
>>> research firm said.
>>>
>>> The number of phones shipped worldwide in the first three months of
>>> the year dropped by 13% to 245 million units from the same period
>>> last year.

>> Well in the UK SP's are now offering SIM only deals, both to save them (and
>> customers) the cost of upgrading and to reduce finance requirements.
>>
>> Most phones in the last few years have most of the features that most people
>> want, so the desire to keep upgrading has probably diminshed as well.

>
> Also - at least from what I've seen on Orange, on my tariff which was
> originally a 12-month contract, upgrades became an 18-month contract
> extension - so by being able to upgrade less often I'd get a newer phone
> less often.
>


Is getting new phones your whole purpose in life?

Mine generally last for four or five years! Of course I don't use my
phone to play music, watch television, play games or drive nails.


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Old 05-06-2009, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> Well in the UK SP's are now offering SIM only deals, both to save them (and
> customers) the cost of upgrading and to reduce finance requirements.
>
> Most phones in the last few years have most of the features that most people
> want, so the desire to keep upgrading has probably diminshed as well.


The volumes are decreasing, but the ASP is going up as people switch to
smart phones. Smart phones account for as much as 50% of shipments in
many countries. It's actually better for the manufacturers and carriers
to sell fewer handsets at much higher prices and margins.

OTOH, the low end market has had the bottom fall out, with handsets
wholesaling for under $20.

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

On 2009-05-06, Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
> Soruk wrote:
>>
>> Also - at least from what I've seen on Orange, on my tariff which was
>> originally a 12-month contract, upgrades became an 18-month contract
>> extension - so by being able to upgrade less often I'd get a newer phone
>> less often.

>
> Is getting new phones your whole purpose in life?
>
> Mine generally last for four or five years! Of course I don't use my
> phone to play music, watch television, play games or drive nails.


No. But getting hold of replacement batteries (as they do wear out) is
actually a lot more difficult than getting a new phone - and often more
expensive.

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Old 05-07-2009, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

On Thu, 07 May 2009 05:50:23 GMT, Soruk <soruk@bitbucket.eridani.co.uk> wrote:
>On 2009-05-06, Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Soruk wrote:
>>>
>>> Also - at least from what I've seen on Orange, on my tariff which was
>>> originally a 12-month contract, upgrades became an 18-month contract
>>> extension - so by being able to upgrade less often I'd get a newer phone
>>> less often.

>>
>> Is getting new phones your whole purpose in life?
>>
>> Mine generally last for four or five years! Of course I don't use my
>> phone to play music, watch television, play games or drive nails.


>No. But getting hold of replacement batteries (as they do wear out) is
>actually a lot more difficult than getting a new phone - and often more
>expensive.


That's only true if you lack the ability to type the name of your
cell phone make and model followed by the magic word "battery" into
a web search site such as google.

Finding batteries is trivial. Finding batteries for a 10 year old phone is
still trivial. My first digital cell phone was a nokia 6160. Took me less than
2 seconds to find batteries for it. My absolute first phone was a motorola
"ultra classic" brick phone. Circa 1995. Took a bit longer to find a battery;
15 seconds: http://www.cell-phone-accessories.com/snsnsnn4199o.html

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Old 05-07-2009, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

Soruk wrote:
> On 2009-05-06, Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Soruk wrote:
>>> Also - at least from what I've seen on Orange, on my tariff which was
>>> originally a 12-month contract, upgrades became an 18-month contract
>>> extension - so by being able to upgrade less often I'd get a newer phone
>>> less often.

>> Is getting new phones your whole purpose in life?
>>
>> Mine generally last for four or five years! Of course I don't use my
>> phone to play music, watch television, play games or drive nails.

>
> No. But getting hold of replacement batteries (as they do wear out) is
> actually a lot more difficult than getting a new phone - and often more
> expensive.
>


Batteries are easy to find and definitely get less expensive with time.
About the only issue to be concerned about is to buy from a reputable
source since there are a lot of low quality clones.

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Mobile sales 'in record decline'

Soruk wrote:

> No. But getting hold of replacement batteries (as they do wear out) is
> actually a lot more difficult than getting a new phone - and often more
> expensive.


This is true for the less popular models, and even then only when newer
models don't happen to use the same model battery. I know some people
have had problems with batteries for older LG phones. For the
top-selling phones, batteries, at relatively low prices, remain
available for a long time.

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