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Old 07-10-2009, 09:48 PM
John Navas
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Default NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/sprint_ericsson/>

Sprint has confirmed it will outsource the running of its US CDMA
network to Ericsson, but is keeping WiMAX to itself while admitting
that all its PDA-class devices will be able to fall back on Wi-Fi
when all else fails.

The outsourcing agreement involves transferring 6,000 staff to
Ericsson, who will take responsibility for the day-to-day running of
Sprint's CDMA, iDEN and wired networks for the next seven years - at
a cost slightly south of $5bn - while Sprint tries to migrate the
users onto its WiMAX network.

[MORE]

Bottom line is that Sprint's condition is getting increasingly
desperate.

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Old 07-12-2009, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

On Jul 10, 3:48*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/sprint_ericsson/>
>
> * *Sprint has confirmed it will outsource the running of its US CDMA
> * *network to Ericsson, but is keeping WiMAX to itself while admitting
> * *that all its PDA-class devices will be able to fall back on Wi-Fi
> * *when all else fails.
>
> * *The outsourcing agreement involves transferring 6,000 staff to
> * *Ericsson, who will take responsibility for the day-to-day running of
> * *Sprint's CDMA, iDEN and wired networks for the next seven years - at
> * *a cost slightly south of $5bn - while Sprint tries to migrate the
> * *users onto its WiMAX network.
>
> * *[MORE]
>
> Bottom line is that Sprint's condition is getting increasingly
> desperate.


How do you come to that conclusion?

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Old 07-12-2009, 01:34 PM
George
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Default Re: NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

carcarx@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 10, 3:48 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/sprint_ericsson/>
>>
>> Sprint has confirmed it will outsource the running of its US CDMA
>> network to Ericsson, but is keeping WiMAX to itself while admitting
>> that all its PDA-class devices will be able to fall back on Wi-Fi
>> when all else fails.
>>
>> The outsourcing agreement involves transferring 6,000 staff to
>> Ericsson, who will take responsibility for the day-to-day running of
>> Sprint's CDMA, iDEN and wired networks for the next seven years - at
>> a cost slightly south of $5bn - while Sprint tries to migrate the
>> users onto its WiMAX network.
>>
>> [MORE]
>>
>> Bottom line is that Sprint's condition is getting increasingly
>> desperate.

>
> How do you come to that conclusion?


I can't speak for him but it usually seems to be the order of
progression when a business is circling the rim. First customers run
away in droves and new ones are few, next the CEO or president appears
in commercials begging for business. Next they realize they can't manage
what they have so instead of figuring out how to manage they outsource
operations that they should be managing thinking it will somehow be
better or less expensive (it usually isn't).

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Old 07-12-2009, 03:42 PM
John Blutarsky
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Default Re: NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:h3cl8o$2gi$1@news.eternal-
september.org:

> carcarx@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 3:48 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/sprint_ericsson/>
>>>
>>> Sprint has confirmed it will outsource the running of its US CDMA
>>> network to Ericsson, but is keeping WiMAX to itself while admitting
>>> that all its PDA-class devices will be able to fall back on Wi-Fi
>>> when all else fails.
>>>
>>> The outsourcing agreement involves transferring 6,000 staff to
>>> Ericsson, who will take responsibility for the day-to-day running of
>>> Sprint's CDMA, iDEN and wired networks for the next seven years - at
>>> a cost slightly south of $5bn - while Sprint tries to migrate the
>>> users onto its WiMAX network.
>>>
>>> [MORE]
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that Sprint's condition is getting increasingly
>>> desperate.

>>
>> How do you come to that conclusion?

>
> I can't speak for him but it usually seems to be the order of
> progression when a business is circling the rim. First customers run
> away in droves and new ones are few, next the CEO or president appears
> in commercials begging for business. Next they realize they can't manage
> what they have so instead of figuring out how to manage they outsource
> operations that they should be managing thinking it will somehow be
> better or less expensive (it usually isn't).
>


But what is being done here is something that most of the big non-US
carriers have been doing for years.

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Old 07-12-2009, 09:18 PM
George
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Default Re: NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

John Blutarsky wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:h3cl8o$2gi$1@news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> carcarx@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 10, 3:48 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/10/sprint_ericsson/>
>>>>
>>>> Sprint has confirmed it will outsource the running of its US CDMA
>>>> network to Ericsson, but is keeping WiMAX to itself while admitting
>>>> that all its PDA-class devices will be able to fall back on Wi-Fi
>>>> when all else fails.
>>>>
>>>> The outsourcing agreement involves transferring 6,000 staff to
>>>> Ericsson, who will take responsibility for the day-to-day running of
>>>> Sprint's CDMA, iDEN and wired networks for the next seven years - at
>>>> a cost slightly south of $5bn - while Sprint tries to migrate the
>>>> users onto its WiMAX network.
>>>>
>>>> [MORE]
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is that Sprint's condition is getting increasingly
>>>> desperate.
>>> How do you come to that conclusion?

>> I can't speak for him but it usually seems to be the order of
>> progression when a business is circling the rim. First customers run
>> away in droves and new ones are few, next the CEO or president appears
>> in commercials begging for business. Next they realize they can't manage
>> what they have so instead of figuring out how to manage they outsource
>> operations that they should be managing thinking it will somehow be
>> better or less expensive (it usually isn't).
>>

>
> But what is being done here is something that most of the big non-US
> carriers have been doing for years.


Maybe something makes it different? At least in the US loss of
customers, CEO begging for customers and massive outsourcing typically
means prepare for the funeral.

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Old 07-13-2009, 09:20 PM
carcarx@hotmail.com
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Default Re: NEWS: Sprint to outsource network operations

On Jul 12, 3:18*pm, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> John Blutarsky wrote:


> > But what is being done here is something that most of the big non-US
> > carriers have been doing for years.

>
> Maybe something makes it different? At least in the US loss of
> customers, CEO begging for customers and massive outsourcing typically
> means prepare for the funeral.


It seems that Ericsson is managing networks for other people around
the world.

Here's a link to an article mentioning both that,and other carriers
around the world who are outsourcing management of their networks.

http://www.von.com/articles/outsourc...ss-models.html

So, what Sprint is doing is not unusual at all.

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