Verizon, the telecommunications company, said Tuesday that it had higher
revenue for the fourth quarter, yet it reported a loss, mostly because
of costs related to layoffs.
....
Verizon Wireless has struggled to keep up with the momentum of the rival
carrier, AT&T, which has been adding subscribers at a rapid clip, in
large part because of the popularity of the iPhone, for which it is the
sole carrier in the United States. ...
> Verizon, the telecommunications company, said Tuesday that it had higher
> revenue for the fourth quarter, yet it reported a loss, mostly because
> of costs related to layoffs.
>
> ...
>
> Verizon Wireless has struggled to keep up with the momentum of the rival
> carrier, AT&T, which has been adding subscribers at a rapid clip, in
> large part because of the popularity of the iPhone, for which it is the
> sole carrier in the United States. ...
>
> MORE:
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/technology/companies/27verizon.html?hpw>
Yes, Verizon will continue to shrink unless they are allowed to sell the
iPhone or new Apple Tablet. We all feel sorry for them.
In article <4b5f6aa5$0$89874$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, davmoy@world.com
says...
>
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Verizon, the telecommunications company, said Tuesday that it had higher
> > revenue for the fourth quarter, yet it reported a loss, mostly because
> > of costs related to layoffs.
> >
> > Verizon Wireless has struggled to keep up with the momentum of the rival
> > carrier, AT&T, which has been adding subscribers at a rapid clip, in
> > large part because of the popularity of the iPhone, for which it is the
> > sole carrier in the United States. ...
> >
> > MORE:
> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/technology/companies/27verizon.html?hpw>
>
> Yes, Verizon will continue to shrink unless they are allowed to sell the
> iPhone or new Apple Tablet. We all feel sorry for them.
Hmmm, those that actually possess some reading comprehension will see
that VZW posted *gains* while the parent company lost money.
"The company said it added 2.2 million wireless subscribers in the
quarter, up substantially from the 1.2 million added a year earlier."
....
"Revenue from Verizon?s traditional wireline services dipped 3.9 percent
to $11.5 billion, compared with the fourth quarter of 2008, as more
customers shift to cellphones.
But the company also said data revenue, from services like text
messaging or browsing the Web, was up 31 percent, to $16 billion,
largely driven by increased use of services and data plans by cellphone
customers. Additionally, wireless data revenue represented a larger
share of all service revenues, 32 percent compared with 26.5 percent a
year earlier."
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in news:MPG.25c90cc2526840e0989892
@news.justthe.net:
> "Revenue from Verizon?s traditional wireline services dipped 3.9 percent
> to $11.5 billion, compared with the fourth quarter of 2008, as more
> customers shift to cellphones.
>
Bell$outh's landline business is in very serious trouble with something
like 1500 disconnects per month here.....Landlines are obsolete IF the
sellphone system can stand it....which it probably can't.
On 2010-01-26, David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Verizon, the telecommunications company, said Tuesday that it had higher
>> revenue for the fourth quarter, yet it reported a loss, mostly because
>> of costs related to layoffs.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Verizon Wireless has struggled to keep up with the momentum of the rival
>> carrier, AT&T, which has been adding subscribers at a rapid clip, in
>> large part because of the popularity of the iPhone, for which it is the
>> sole carrier in the United States. ...
>>
>> MORE:
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/technology/companies/27verizon.html?hpw>
>
> Yes, Verizon will continue to shrink unless they are allowed to sell the
> iPhone or new Apple Tablet. We all feel sorry for them.
Um, Verizon Wireless added 2.24 million customers in that quarter; I'm
not sure AT&T has added that many in any quarter ever. And Verizon
Wireless is still the most profitable mobile phone company in the
country by a wide margin, it is just that only 55% of the wireless
profit ends up on Verizon's bottom line and the landline part of the
company has been leaking some cash.
> Um, Verizon Wireless added 2.24 million customers in that quarter; I'm
> not sure AT&T has added that many in any quarter ever. And Verizon
> Wireless is still the most profitable mobile phone company in the
> country by a wide margin, it is just that only 55% of the wireless
> profit ends up on Verizon's bottom line and the landline part of the
> company has been leaking some cash.
>
> You need to look at the numbers, not the spin.
Um, you're talking about Navas and Moyer, so to expect anything but spin
would be unthinkable.
Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <Xns9D0CD5BA416D7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
> says...
>
>> We, probably, shouldn't ruin the illusion for them. They think Apple
> is
>> the number one sellphone company in the world.
>
> But I *like* proving that they're idiots.
>
>
The proof is really not all that interesting or exciting! Unless, of
course you have some really odd tastes!
NEWS: AT&T settles class action over termination fees
AT&T Inc. is paying $18 million to settle claims that it imposed
unfairly high fees on wireless customers who wanted to end their
contracts.
The settlement covers customers from as far back as 1998. Those who were
charged an early termination fee, or ETF, could get as much as $140
back, if they canceled a two-year contract just before it was about to
expire. Those who canceled earlier would get less.
Those who were never charged an early termination fee can get an AT&T
long distance phone card with up to 200 minutes, or if they have a AT&T
contract, choose to have the ETF changed from a $175 flat rate to one
that is prorated.
AT&T used to charge an ETF of $175, regardless of how long the customer
had left on the contract. Like other carriers, it started prorating the
fee in 2008, so customers canceling after a year of service paid less.
NEWS: As Devices Pull More Data, Patience May Be Required
Could Apple’s new iPad end up being too much of a good thing?
Steven P. Jobs, Apple’s chief executive, played up the iPad’s ability to
stream live baseball games and hit movies during his demonstration on
Wednesday. But people who are willing to pay more to get that content
over AT&T’s 3G data network may pay another price: glacial downloads and
spotty service on an already overburdened system.
America’s advanced cellphone network is already beginning to be bog down
by smartphones that double as computers, navigation devices and e-book
readers. Cellphones are increasingly being used as TVs, which hog even
more bandwidth. They can also transmit video, allowing for
videoconferencing on cellphones.
And a new generation of netbooks, tablet PCs and other mobile devices
that connect to cellphone networks will only add to the strain. “Carrier
networks aren’t set to handle five million tablets sucking down 5
gigabytes of data each month,” Philip Cusick, an analyst at Macquarie
Securities, said.
Wireless carriers have drastically underestimated the network demand by
consumers, which has been driven largely by the iPhone and its
applications, he said. “It’s only going to get worse as streaming video
gets more prevalent.”
Re: NEWS: As Devices Pull More Data, Patience May Be Required
John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:3sd2m59j82cjvck47ul0e0p69i62lvonru@4ax.com:
> It's only going to get worse as streaming video
> gets more prevalent.
As long as the 5GB/month LIMITED service is delivered to aircards and
tethered devices, the point is moot.
"unlimited" service, lower case intended, is only offered to devices
that lack the capabilities to download massive data storms and have no
way of offloading that data to other systems, play the vast majority of
the internet's streaming stations because they lack the licensed
technology such as Adobe Flash, DivX, XviD, Windows Media, Real Video
and Audio, to do so, relieving the carriers from having to provide
streaming services from the vast majority of the web. Adobe, by the
way, is about to release a web-based iPhone product Steve Jobs has yet
to block, so non-Flash devices like his will be able to play Adobe's
server customers' Flash content through an Adobe proxy. There was news
of that across the geekdom just today when reporters were asking Adobe
about the lack of Flash support for Apple's sellphone products. Adobe
has tried very hard to get Flash player on these devices to no avail.
I'm sure ATTWS is firmly against Flash support as the Adobe Flash
product head said something like 75% of video streaming content on the
net is FLASH based.
You can count the H.264 TV stations on a single sheet of paper....no
threat to ATTWS' bandwidth problem at all.
Note the SD card dongle is for READING camera data ONLY and does not
write, removing the threat that some smartass maxiPad owner downloads
Avatar from some website, storing it off the maxiPad so he can play it
on his mac over ATTWS' "unlimited" data usage $30 account.
This pig is all hobbled up just like iPhone....to LIMIT bandwidth on
ATTWS.
No programming, no root access, no loading your own programs off the SD
card dongle, etc., etc......
Another Apple Box Office Device the consumer is expected to pay for.
App sales
Content sales
Book sales
Music sales
all controlled by the CLOUD.
Re: NEWS: As Devices Pull More Data, Patience May Be Required
In article <Xns9D0EEEEA7ED81noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:
> Note the SD card dongle is for READING camera data ONLY and does not
> write, removing the threat that some smartass maxiPad owner downloads
> Avatar from some website, storing it off the maxiPad so he can play it
> on his mac over ATTWS' "unlimited" data usage $30 account.
when did you try one? oh right, you didn't, you're just spewing again.
> No programming,
what's the sdk for then? how did the 140,000 apps get written?
> no root access,
what do you need to do that requires root?
> no loading your own programs off the SD
> card dongle, etc., etc......
there's plenty of storage in the device itself and additional apps can
be downloaded at any time. no need for cards.
Re: NEWS: As Devices Pull More Data, Patience May Be Required
Larry wrote:
> As long as the 5GB/month LIMITED service is delivered to aircards and
> tethered devices, the point is moot.
>
> "unlimited" service, lower case intended, is only offered to devices
> that lack the capabilities to download massive data storms and have no
> way of offloading that data to other systems, play the vast majority of
> the internet's streaming stations because they lack the licensed
> technology such as Adobe Flash, DivX,
<snip>
You can currently use a jailbroken iPhone as a wireless router and
tether whatever you want to the 3G network. I'm sure that AT&T has
insisted that Apple make this impossible on the iPad as a condition of
the $30 unlimited 3G service.
NEWS: Adobe Shows Flash and AIR Apps for Google Android
Adobe on Monday introduced the Flash Player 10.1 and AIR platform for
the Google Android mobile operating system. With this announcement,
Adobe plans to present the AIR platform as a tool for building mobile
apps that run on multiple phone platforms.
Adobe AIR, which made possible cross-platform apps like TweetDeck or the
New York Times Reader, is now going mobile, starting with Android. Using
this platform, developers will be able to design an application once and
deliver it across multiple phone operating systems.
Google's Android mobile OS is the first on the list to support apps
developed using Adobe AIR, and also to run the Flash 10.1 player. Both
should be available on Android phones sometime in the first half of
2010, Adobe said.
Twenty-four telecom operators have formed an alliance to build an open
platform that will deliver applications to all mobile phone users in an
effort to compete with Apple's (AAPL.O) successful apps store.
The move is supported by three of the world's largest device makers --
LG Electronics, Samsung and Sony Ericsson, the telecoms industry body
GSM Association said on Monday at the Mobile World Congress in
Barcelona.
But analysts were sceptical whether so many operators could work
together efficienctly and noted that it was difficult to compete with
the strength of Apple's brand.
NEWS: Mobile Operators Talk up Prospects of Voice on LTE Phones
While LTE modems delivering mobile broadband services already appearing
on the market, LTE phones are still some way off -- not least because
manufacturers and operators have yet to agree how calls will be placed
and voice traffic carried over LTE's all-IP networks. One of the
solutions to that problem got a boost Monday, though, with more
operators and vendors lending it their support.
Support for One Voice, an initiative to standardize telephony over LTE
(Long-Term Evolution) networks, has increased from 12 operators and
vendors to over 40, according to the GSM Association (GSMA), which
represents mobile operators and equipment manufacturers.
The association will lead the development of the underlying
specification from now on, it said, changing its name to VoLTE (Voice
over LTE).
That all adds up to a greater chance for subscribers that the first
generation of LTE phones will work on multiple operators' networks --
although support for international roaming is still a work in progress.
There are two camps in the upcoming 4G wars in the United States. Right
now, the only 4G network that is commercially available comes from
Sprint and Clearwire. Other major producers are testing competing 4G
networks around the country and hope to start limited rollouts late in
2010.
Sprint and Clearwire backed WiMAX for their 4G technology while all
other major providers like AT&T and Verizon are backing LTE for 4G. The
only benefit of WiMAX over LTE is that WiMAX was faster to market.
Sprint and Clearwire offer WiMAX in a number of large cities around the
country and the two companies are rolling out coverage to more cities
all the time.
Five new WiMAX markets came online in November 2009 including Chicago,
Dallas-Fort Worth, and three North Carolina markets. The big catch so
far for the 4G covered areas is that connectivity has been limited to
USB modems for computers and no mobile phone supporting 4G have been
offered. Sprint has said the devices were coming, but so far, none have
materialized.
Forbes reports that Sprint has now announced new 4G compatible handsets
will be coming sooner than previously believed. The new handsets are
said to be launching in the first half of 2010, which is a few months
earlier than previously expected. The handsets will be dual-mode phones
capable of operating on the limited availability 4G network and on the
Sprint 3G network in other areas.
Sprint is counting on the new 4G phones to help it grow and gain on
major rivals like Verizon. Sprint has been hemorrhaging subscribers
badly and losing market share to both AT&T and Verizon as customers
leave the Sprint network in droves. Sprint CEO Dan Hesse says that 2010
is the year of 4G and Sprint is working with manufactures to embed 4G
into a number of devices.
There is no word at this time what company will be making 4G handsets
for Sprint.
--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>
If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
NEWS: Sprint is Pushing to Win in Mobile Data Connectivity with 3G, 4G
Lately, the battle between AT&T and Verizon Wireless has taken center
stage with the fight between an app for that and a map for that, but
Sprint and T-Mobile aren't to be left out of the race for wireless
dominance. T-Mobile as the underdog, the nation's number four carrier,
has ambitious plans to upgrade its 3G data network to HSPA+, giving 3G
download speeds that rivals 4G speeds while number three Sprint has
already deployed 4G access in a number of areas at a time when its
competitors are only beginning to talk about 4G coverage. Sprint's 4G
WiMax service is already present in 27 markets and will make its way to
larger metropolitan hubs this year, including Boston, Houston, New York
City, San Francisco, and the District of Columbia to name a few.
Currently, the 27 WiMax markets include: Georgia – Atlanta,
Milledgeville; Hawaii – Honolulu, Maui; Idaho – Boise; Illinois –
Chicago; Maryland – Baltimore; Nevada – Las Vegas; North Carolina –
Charlotte, Greensboro, (along with High Point and Winston-Salem),
Raleigh (along with Cary, Chapel Hill and Durham); Oregon – Portland,
Salem; Pennsylvania – Philadelphia; Texas – Abilene, Amarillo, Austin,
Corpus Christi, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Killeen/Temple, Lubbock,
Midland/Odessa, San Antonio, Waco, Wichita Falls; Washington –
Bellingham, Seattle.
That's not all. The the San Francisco Bay Area office of Sprint is
boasting, in light of AT&T's sub-par performance in San Francisco, that
it is rated as the best performer in the City by the Bay ...
Re: NEWS: Sprint is Pushing to Win in Mobile Data Connectivity with3G, 4G
Larry wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
> news:vp5lo5t7le11nn86lbcv62gamuvmc759le@navasgroup .com:
>
>> That's not all.
>
> Sprint's Clear offers one thing none of the sellphone carriers do:
>
> "Unlimited data usage in the coverage area"
>
> No GB limits, no THROTTLING if you go over X GB this month...none of
> that sellphone crap.
>
> BRING IT ON! $45/mo for 6Mbps mobile is very attractive without limits.
It is indeed. If you can live with Sprint coverage.
NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
Android Dominates, Windows Mobile Plummets, iPhone Stagnant
The results are in from comScore for the most recent quarter for
smartphone usage in the United States. With smartphone use up 18 percent
over the previous quarter, topping 42 million users, Google's Android
mobile operating system stands out as the dominant winner for this
quarter.
The smartphone statistics from this quarter demonstrate that the
smartphone is still viewed primarily as a business tool rather than a
consumer toy. Businesses and business professionals continue to embrace
BlackBerry and Android devices, in all of their many shapes and forms,
over the Apple iPhone.
Verizon's massive marketing effort leading to the launch of the Motorola
Droid, and Google's major media attention for the introduction of the
Nexus One appear to have paid off. Android more than doubled its market
share over the previous quarter--jumping more than 250 percent from 2.8
percent of the U.S. smartphone market to 7.1 percent.
Apparently, much of that market share increase came at Microsoft's
expense. Microsoft finally unveiled the next generation Windows Phone 7
platform, but that hasn't helped stop the bleeding for the current
Windows Mobile devices. In fact, the lack of a path to upgrade current
devices to the new Windows Phone 7 operating system when it arrives, and
the lack of backward compatibility to run current Windows Mobile apps
probably mean Microsoft can expect sharp losses in the next quarter as
well.
....
.... Apple may have reached a saturation point when it comes to consumer
adoption of a smartphone device.
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
In article <5u2ip5puvas9op5fmcpbj9kjjmo2ralmth@navasgroup.com >, John
Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> Android Dominates, Windows Mobile Plummets, iPhone Stagnant
>
> The results are in from comScore for the most recent quarter for
> smartphone usage in the United States. With smartphone use up 18 percent
> over the previous quarter, topping 42 million users, Google's Android
> mobile operating system stands out as the dominant winner for this
> quarter.
maybe in growth but android is in fourth place, by *their* numbers.
that's a very odd definition of 'dominant winner.'
> The smartphone statistics from this quarter demonstrate that the
> smartphone is still viewed primarily as a business tool rather than a
> consumer toy. Businesses and business professionals continue to embrace
> BlackBerry and Android devices, in all of their many shapes and forms,
> over the Apple iPhone.
70% of fortune 100 companies are currently deploying or testing iphone
apps.
> Verizon's massive marketing effort leading to the launch of the Motorola
> Droid, and Google's major media attention for the introduction of the
> Nexus One appear to have paid off. Android more than doubled its market
> share over the previous quarter--jumping more than 250 percent from 2.8
> percent of the U.S. smartphone market to 7.1 percent.
it's easy to double market share when it's in the low single digits,
and even with that growth, they're in fourth place.
> ... Apple may have reached a saturation point when it comes to consumer
> adoption of a smartphone device.
'may have.' what about rim? their growth was very small too. that's
also saturated.
expect iphone sales to spike when the next model is released, as it
always does. sampling per quarter is very dependent on which model is
'the latest.'
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
nospam wrote:
> In article <5u2ip5puvas9op5fmcpbj9kjjmo2ralmth@navasgroup.com >, John
> Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Android Dominates, Windows Mobile Plummets, iPhone Stagnant
>>
>> The results are in from comScore for the most recent quarter for
>> smartphone usage in the United States. With smartphone use up 18 percent
>> over the previous quarter, topping 42 million users, Google's Android
>> mobile operating system stands out as the dominant winner for this
>> quarter.
>
> maybe in growth but android is in fourth place, by *their* numbers.
> that's a very odd definition of 'dominant winner.'
Yes, they're talking about growth rates. Android, since it's starting
from such a low number to begin with, is of course going to have a much
faster growth rate than the iPhone.
The other thing helping Android is that it's being adopted by businesses
for applications that the iPhone isn't suitable for, while the iPhone is
almost exclusively sold into the consumer space. It's similar to what
happened back in the 1980's when the Apple II was very popular with
consumers, but the open architecture, IBM PC ended up dominating the
commercial and industrial market, and soon the consumer market as well.
Of course nothing is stopping Apple from coming out with products
targeted at the business and commercial market, but they seem to be
uncomfortable marketing to those sorts of customers, since those
customers won't accept the level of control that iPhone customers accept.
[alt.cellular.cingular removed, Cingular no longer exists]
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
In article <4b992dd0$0$1582$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> The other thing helping Android is that it's being adopted by businesses
> for applications that the iPhone isn't suitable for, while the iPhone is
> almost exclusively sold into the consumer space.
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
nospam wrote:
> In article <4b992dd0$0$1582$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The other thing helping Android is that it's being adopted by businesses
>> for applications that the iPhone isn't suitable for, while the iPhone is
>> almost exclusively sold into the consumer space.
>
> wrong.
Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm sure you are well aware of the reasons that the iPhone has been
deployed by very few major corporations:
1. AT&T only. AT&T’s coverage and network performance are not good
enough for business usage in many parts of the country. Verizon is the
carrier of choice for most major corporations because their network,
both voice and data, has more coverage, is more reliable, and is faster
in the real world (we're not talking about maximum theoretical peak speed).
2. Lacks the security and manageability of BlackBerrys that are used
with an Enterprise server.
3. No slide-out keyboard. For business users that are primarily using
the phone for e-mail, texting, or entering data, the soft keyboard is
not sufficient.
4. Tethering. The lack of tethering in the U.S. means that a business
that wants their employees to be able to use their laptops on the 3G
network has to buy a 3G modem for the employee, and pay twice for data
service, once for the iPhone, once for the 3G modem.
That's not to say Apple will never come out with products more suitable
for the corporate environment, they could easily do a corporate version
of the iPhone that solves at least three of the four major issues, but
they haven't done so yet.
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
news:4b993bf0$0$1594$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
> nospam wrote:
>> In article <4b992dd0$0$1582$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The other thing helping Android is that it's being
>>> adopted by businesses for applications that the iPhone
>>> isn't suitable for, while the iPhone is almost
>>> exclusively sold into the consumer space.
>>
>> wrong.
>
> Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>
> I'm sure you are well aware of the reasons that the iPhone
> has been deployed by very few major corporations:
>
> 1. AT&T only. AT&T’s coverage and network performance are
> not good enough for business usage in many parts of the
> country. Verizon is the carrier of choice for most major
> corporations because their network, both voice and data,
> has more coverage, is more reliable, and is faster in the
> real world (we're not talking about maximum theoretical
> peak speed).
>
> 2. Lacks the security and manageability of BlackBerrys that
> are used with an Enterprise server.
>
> 3. No slide-out keyboard. For business users that are
> primarily using the phone for e-mail, texting, or entering
> data, the soft keyboard is not sufficient.
>
> 4. Tethering. The lack of tethering in the U.S. means that
> a business that wants their employees to be able to use
> their laptops on the 3G network has to buy a 3G modem for
> the employee, and pay twice for data service, once for the
> iPhone, once for the 3G modem.
>
> That's not to say Apple will never come out with products
> more suitable for the corporate environment, they could
> easily do a corporate version of the iPhone that solves at
> least three of the four major issues, but they haven't done
> so yet.
>
These articles state otherwise.
"iPhone corporate users happier, more productive, Forrester
says"......
From a forum dated Sept '09.....
"My company with 8000 employees seems to have standardised on
iPhone now. I can't think of anyone with a Blackberry..."
Re: NEWS: Google shoots at Apple, ricochet hits Microsoft
nospam wrote:
> In article <4b993bf0$0$1594$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>
> yes i do.
>
>> I'm sure you are well aware of the reasons that the iPhone has been
>> deployed by very few major corporations:
>
> if by very few, you mean 70% of fortune 100 companies. source: tim
> cook, apple coo, last month.
You're confused. There are employees at those companies using the
iPhone, but almost none have deployed the iPhone via their IT
department. The reason it's only 70% and not 100% is because many
corporations forbid the use of the iPhone for security reasons. You
can't even log on to their internal networks with one.
You'll need to come up with a better reference than the Apple COO if you
want to be believed!
NEWS: Verizon and AT&T May Both Get Apple Tablet 
Linear Mode
