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Old 08-07-2009, 06:21 PM
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Default PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited VoiceMinutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

As expected, Pageplus (Verizon MVNO) fired a counter-attack against
Tracfone's StraightTalk service.

Unlimited voice, unlimited text messaging, and 20 megabytes of data for
$39.95/month. Like the earlier "Talk N Text" plan, you can pay for it
with discounted Pageplus refills, so the cost will be less than $34 per
month [a card with $56 of value can be purchased for $47 or less).
Unlike other unlimited plans from other carriers, there are no extra
fees or taxes, so that's the actual price you'll pay.

The one caveat is that if you're outside Verizon territory you'll pay to
roam onto other carriers. However unlike some prepaid services (Virgin
Mobile, StraightTalk) which don't allow roaming at all, at least on
PagePlus you can roam off the native network so you can still have
coverage in Alaska, Yosemite, etc., albeit at extra cost.

See
"http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Plans/Unlimited%20Talk%20n%20Text.aspx"
for details.

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Old 08-07-2009, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited VoiceMinutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

SMS wrote:

> The one caveat is that if you're outside Verizon territory you'll pay to
> roam onto other carriers. However unlike some prepaid services (Virgin
> Mobile, StraightTalk) which don't allow roaming at all, at least on
> PagePlus you can roam off the native network so you can still have
> coverage in Alaska, Yosemite, etc., albeit at extra cost.


From my kids' experience (both on PagePlus) you don't get charged the
roaming fee on certain non-Verizon networks. For example, Golden State
Cellular which covers parts of central California, including Yosemite,
Sonora, etc., appears to be considered "native" coverage. However when
we were in Wyoming (Yellowstone) there were areas where they would have
been charged roaming. If you're making a call that will incur roaming
charges you'll get the message "Please Re-Dial the 10 digit number
you're trying to call," and you'll get charged 59/minute. If you were
receiving a call while roaming you'd have no indication that you were
going to be charged 59/minute.

Don't sign up for PagePlus unless Verizon has a network, or a network
affiliate, in the area you live and travel to the most.

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Old 08-07-2009, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited Voice Minutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4a7c6240$0$1589
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Plan...0n%20Text.aspx


Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding the
Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more places to
the coverage maps than they have now.

Thanks, Steven....

I dumped the "New Alltel" at The Borg's office, yesterday. Just as soon as
The Borg took over Alltel's system, data service went from 800-1200Kbps to
37-400Kbps....Yes, that's 37K bps....simply horrible. UPload suffered
awful, too. They did that first.

I opened 4 trouble tickets and got nowhere. I'm cellular-free on Skype at
the moment, which works just fine for us old retired folks. Phone calls
can wait until I get on wifi.



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Old 08-07-2009, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited VoiceMinutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

Larry wrote:

> Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding the
> Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more places to
> the coverage maps than they have now.


If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.

On the other hand, I expect that many of the subscribers to those
unlimited plans are happily paying $100/month for unlimited voice, plus
another $10 for a messaging package, plus taxes and fees (for a total of
$120 month) would complain that they don't get a free phone or a
discount on a new phone every two years. The fact that saving $75/month
for 24 months adds up to $1800 in savings, enough to buy three smart
phones at full retail, is immaterial.

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Old 08-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited VoiceMinutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

SMS wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>
>> Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding
>> the Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more
>> places to the coverage maps than they have now.

>
> If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
> unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.
>
> On the other hand, I expect that many of the subscribers to those
> unlimited plans are happily paying $100/month for unlimited voice, plus
> another $10 for a messaging package, plus taxes and fees (for a total of
> $120 month) would complain that they don't get a free phone or a
> discount on a new phone every two years. The fact that saving $75/month
> for 24 months adds up to $1800 in savings, enough to buy three smart
> phones at full retail, is immaterial.



Not quite that simple. I would jump on it if they had a plan suitable
for a smartphone. I am not a Larry but 20 Mb of data wouldn't work for
me or most people I know.

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Old 08-08-2009, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited Voice Minutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:45:54 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>SMS wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>
>>> Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding
>>> the Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more
>>> places to the coverage maps than they have now.

>>
>> If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
>> unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.
>>
>> On the other hand, I expect that many of the subscribers to those
>> unlimited plans are happily paying $100/month for unlimited voice, plus
>> another $10 for a messaging package, plus taxes and fees (for a total of
>> $120 month) would complain that they don't get a free phone or a
>> discount on a new phone every two years. The fact that saving $75/month
>> for 24 months adds up to $1800 in savings, enough to buy three smart
>> phones at full retail, is immaterial.

>
>
>Not quite that simple. I would jump on it if they had a plan suitable
>for a smartphone. I am not a Larry but 20 Mb of data wouldn't work for
>me or most people I know.


Doesn't quite work for my wife and me, either. Way too many minutes
for too much money. So far, a family plan for a total of ~$30/month
with 250 shared minutes and 100 shared texts from AARP-discounted
www.consumercellular.com is looking to be the best value. The handset
selection is lousy, but the price is right and we're not picky, as
long as we can make and receive calls.

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Old 08-08-2009, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited Voice Minutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:h5i7pe$rm5$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> SMS wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>
>>> Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding
>>> the Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more
>>> places to the coverage maps than they have now.

>>
>> If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
>> unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.
>>
>> On the other hand, I expect that many of the subscribers to those
>> unlimited plans are happily paying $100/month for unlimited voice,
>> plus another $10 for a messaging package, plus taxes and fees (for a
>> total of $120 month) would complain that they don't get a free phone
>> or a discount on a new phone every two years. The fact that saving
>> $75/month for 24 months adds up to $1800 in savings, enough to buy
>> three smart phones at full retail, is immaterial.

>
>
> Not quite that simple. I would jump on it if they had a plan suitable
> for a smartphone. I am not a Larry but 20 Mb of data wouldn't work for
> me or most people I know.
>


That wouldn't work for me, either. I got a free USB modem on EVDO-A
from Cricket, who covers our city, with $40/month unlimited data. They
are supposed to throttle service if you go over 5GB/month, but do not
charge extra and, so far, I haven't seen any throttling at all. Sure is
faster than my tethered Verizon/Alltel became just before I dumped 'em.

Unlimited Cricket - $40
Pageplus Unlimited - $40

still much cheaper than buying either or both from The Borg. The phone
part will work wherever The Borg have service nationwide without the old
minute blowjob Verizon is famous for.



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Old 08-08-2009, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: PagePlus Rocks the Mobile World--Unlimited Texts, Unlimited Voice Minutes, 20MB of Data <$34/month on Verizon's Network

Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in
news:n0dp759vf9uobok2p0lura36clqbssjf86@4ax.com:

> The handset
> selection is lousy, but the price is right and we're not picky, as
> long as we can make and receive calls.
>


Page Plus doesn't care as long as the handset you bring in is CDMA
compatible. Of course ATT/t-mobiles won't work. Alltel, Sprint, Verizon
phones will all go on pageplus. Have your ECN (Meid) number from under the
battery ready when you call and they'll activate it right online.



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Old 08-08-2009, 03:10 AM
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:45:47 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in
>news:n0dp759vf9uobok2p0lura36clqbssjf86@4ax.com :
>
>> The handset
>> selection is lousy, but the price is right and we're not picky, as
>> long as we can make and receive calls.
>>

>
>Page Plus doesn't care as long as the handset you bring in is CDMA
>compatible. Of course ATT/t-mobiles won't work. Alltel, Sprint, Verizon
>phones will all go on pageplus. Have your ECN (Meid) number from under the
>battery ready when you call and they'll activate it right online.


I know, but they (PP) cost more than I'm willing to pay. The lowest
cost plan doesn't include any text messaging, and the next step up
costs too much.

My comment above about lousy handset selection refers to
consumercellular.

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Old 08-08-2009, 06:43 PM
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Larry wrote:
> Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in
> news:n0dp759vf9uobok2p0lura36clqbssjf86@4ax.com:
>
>> The handset
>> selection is lousy, but the price is right and we're not picky, as
>> long as we can make and receive calls.
>>

>
> Page Plus doesn't care as long as the handset you bring in is CDMA
> compatible. Of course ATT/t-mobiles won't work. Alltel, Sprint, Verizon
> phones will all go on pageplus. Have your ECN (Meid) number from under the
> battery ready when you call and they'll activate it right online.


I didn't think that Sprint handsets would work.

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Old 08-08-2009, 07:55 PM
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In article <4a7c721d$0$1600$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
scharf.steven@geemail.com says...

> > Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding

the
> > Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more places to
> > the coverage maps than they have now.

>
> If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
> unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.


No it wouldn't. Not any more than ultra-low-priced plans from MetroPCS
and Cricket that are already in place.


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Old 08-08-2009, 07:56 PM
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In article <4a7db8e7$0$1603$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
scharf.steven@geemail.com says...

> >> The handset
> >> selection is lousy, but the price is right and we're not picky, as
> >> long as we can make and receive calls.
> >>

> >
> > Page Plus doesn't care as long as the handset you bring in is CDMA
> > compatible. Of course ATT/t-mobiles won't work. Alltel, Sprint, Verizon
> > phones will all go on pageplus. Have your ECN (Meid) number from under the
> > battery ready when you call and they'll activate it right online.

>
> I didn't think that Sprint handsets would work.


Larry doesn't know jack-**** about Sprint, never having even been a
Sprint customer, so anything he says about Sprint needs to be taken with
a grain of salt.

Sprint handsets should work IF they are unlocked and IF they aren't
single-band. Sprint is 1900 MHz nationwide, and Verizon (AFAIK) is still
mostly 800.


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Old 08-09-2009, 04:38 AM
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Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <4a7c721d$0$1600$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> scharf.steven@geemail.com says...
>
>>> Man that's impossible to beat if you consider Verizon will be adding

> the
>>> Alltel system that I assume, maybe wrongly, will add even more places to
>>> the coverage maps than they have now.

>> If anyone actually knew about PagePlus it might be bad news for the
>> unlimited plans from all of the other carriers.

>
> No it wouldn't. Not any more than ultra-low-priced plans from MetroPCS
> and Cricket that are already in place.


They're very different than the MetroPCS and Cricket plans. With
PagePlus included coverage is the entire Verizon network (and actually a
little more), plus you can roam onto non-Verizon networks at extra cost.

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Old 08-09-2009, 05:52 PM
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in news:MPG.24e63dd4c426f80c989720
@news.justthe.net:

> No it wouldn't. Not any more than ultra-low-priced plans from MetroPCS
> and Cricket that are already in place.
>
>
>


Unlike Cricket and probably MetroPCS, Page Plus has Verizon's footprint
nationwide. So your comment there has a flaw, but I won't call you names
like you did me.

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Old 08-09-2009, 05:55 PM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4a7e4486$0$1639
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> plus you can roam onto non-Verizon networks at extra cost.
>


From what I've read on the blogs/forums, PagePlus doesn't use the Verizon
non-roaming PRL like Verizon does, making your comment quite valuable as it
would roam onto systems Verizon would say NO SERVICE to...

Now we all know Page Plus is making a nice profit off reselling Verizon or
they wouldn't be doing it. What's most revealing is how much of a ripoff
Verizon's own super priced plans are if Page Plus can make a profit off
buying from them wholesale and reselling it to us for $40 a month.



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Old 08-09-2009, 08:25 PM
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Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns9C62838F8C4B7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13:

> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4a7e4486$0$1639
> $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
>> plus you can roam onto non-Verizon networks at extra cost.
>>

>
> From what I've read on the blogs/forums, PagePlus doesn't use the
> Verizon non-roaming PRL like Verizon does, making your comment quite
> valuable as it would roam onto systems Verizon would say NO SERVICE
> to...
>
> Now we all know Page Plus is making a nice profit off reselling
> Verizon or they wouldn't be doing it. What's most revealing is how
> much of a ripoff Verizon's own super priced plans are if Page Plus can
> make a profit off buying from them wholesale and reselling it to us
> for $40 a month.
>
>
>


And with that, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are
clueless on the subject.

Prepaid services profit from the very limited sales organizations and
backend customer support required to effectively run the business. Because
of the limited selection of phones and the prepayment of minutes, Customer
Care becomes almost unnecessary. And because of the prepayment of minutes,
the need for a Collections organization is again almost obsolete (except to
deal with payment fraudsters). Add reduced marketing and advertising costs
and no associated network maintenance and it becomes quite easy to
understand how they are profitable while Verizon needs to charge more.

This crap is Business 101 stuff. Your stated inability to understand it
proves that you are either an idiot or a troll. I know what my vote would
be.

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Old 08-09-2009, 09:47 PM
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In article <Xns9C6282FA68956noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...

> Unlike Cricket and probably MetroPCS, Page Plus has Verizon's footprint
> nationwide. So your comment there has a flaw, but I won't call you names
> like you did me.


#1. Yes, I know PagePlus has a bigger footprint.

#2. I've politely pointed out, in the past, that you have never been a
Sprint customer and therefore couldn't be expected to know much (if
anything) about their network and policies. Still, you seem to like to
make the occasional assertion that you can't back up. No, actually, the
typical Sprint phone WILL NOT work on Verizon's Network because they're
all subsidy-locked. And at least until recently, they've had a lot of
phones that only run on 1900MHz, since 100% of their network runs at
that frequency. That makes the phones useless on most of Verizon's
network, even if you are able to get them unlocked.

You pull these assertions out of your ***. I'm just letting everyone
know that, as I said, those assertions must be taken with a grain of
salt. I don't claim to be a Sprint Nextel expert, but hey, at least I
was a customer of theirs for four years, so I do know *some* things
about the company and the service.

#3. Ha. Call you names? Are you seriously trying to take the moral high
road after all of the nasty personal attacks aimed at me?

No, really, are you? Because if you are, that is the height of
hypocrisy, and I will have to laugh because it's utterly hilarious.

Thanks for the laugh. You really brightened up my day!

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Old 08-10-2009, 05:07 AM
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:MPG.24e8d5d42a440ec3989723@news.justthe.net:

> In article <Xns9C6282FA68956noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> noone@home.com says...
>
>> Unlike Cricket and probably MetroPCS, Page Plus has Verizon's
>> footprint nationwide. So your comment there has a flaw, but I won't
>> call you names like you did me.

>
> #1. Yes, I know PagePlus has a bigger footprint.
>
> #2. I've politely pointed out, in the past, that you have never been a
> Sprint customer and therefore couldn't be expected to know much (if
> anything) about their network and policies. Still, you seem to like to
> make the occasional assertion that you can't back up. No, actually,
> the typical Sprint phone WILL NOT work on Verizon's Network because
> they're all subsidy-locked. And at least until recently, they've had a
> lot of phones that only run on 1900MHz, since 100% of their network
> runs at that frequency. That makes the phones useless on most of
> Verizon's network, even if you are able to get them unlocked.
>
> You pull these assertions out of your ***. I'm just letting everyone
> know that, as I said, those assertions must be taken with a grain of
> salt. I don't claim to be a Sprint Nextel expert, but hey, at least I
> was a customer of theirs for four years, so I do know *some* things
> about the company and the service.
>
> #3. Ha. Call you names? Are you seriously trying to take the moral
> high road after all of the nasty personal attacks aimed at me?
>
> No, really, are you? Because if you are, that is the height of
> hypocrisy, and I will have to laugh because it's utterly hilarious.
>
> Thanks for the laugh. You really brightened up my day!
>


Gee, Steve, calm down! Noone gives a **** about a Sprint locked phone
enough to cause you some heart attack.

Why do you feel it necessary to attack me for simply pointing out to
anyone who may be interested that they can get great Verizon service
with NO MINUTES and unlimited texting for $40/month with no addon fees?

Why does this put YOU in attack mode? I'd think ANY Verizon customer
sucking up to his 150 minute nationwide plan with a $150 Verizon bill
from The Borg would be more than happy to at least hear this news. They
don't give a **** about your Sprint phones or anything else. I'm
telling them how to save over a hundred a month! Most people would be
MOST friendly to hear this news.....providing, of course, they weren't
some Verizon investor, fanboi, employee who may feel threatened in some
way.

Cool off! Go have some BBQ and a beer!



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Old 08-10-2009, 05:17 AM
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Larry wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4a7e4486$0$1639
> $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
>> plus you can roam onto non-Verizon networks at extra cost.
>>

>
> From what I've read on the blogs/forums, PagePlus doesn't use the Verizon
> non-roaming PRL like Verizon does, making your comment quite valuable as it
> would roam onto systems Verizon would say NO SERVICE to...


I suspect that PagePlus uses a PRL similar to what the old America's
Choice plan used. My kids have not been charged for some off-network
roaming, such as Golden State Cellular (which Verizon owns part of) but
there was a network in Wyoming where PagePlus worked with double
dialing, on AMPS. Since our Verizon phones are on America's Choice, we
were able to also use this AMPS network even though most off-network
AMPS is not available to Verizon users.

> Now we all know Page Plus is making a nice profit off reselling Verizon or
> they wouldn't be doing it. What's most revealing is how much of a ripoff
> Verizon's own super priced plans are if Page Plus can make a profit off
> buying from them wholesale and reselling it to us for $40 a month.


As someone else pointed out, what PagePlus lacks is a high volume data
plan. As the smart phone becomes the defacto standard a carrier without
the availability of a high volume data plan is at a disadvantage.

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Old 08-10-2009, 06:37 PM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>I suspect that PagePlus uses a PRL similar to what the old America's
>Choice plan used.


Hi Steven....

Need some advice if you don't mind

I currently use T Mo prepaid and having decent luck
with it but as you know it and ATT require GSM based
phones

Well I just bought a new Nokia E63 unlocked smart phone
from Dell for $150. I use prepaid min's on this phone
and just use the wifi at ant free hotspot

Having said that...... with all the competition in
prepaid I'm wondering if I should have NOT bought this
phone as it locks me in GSM networks only and there may
be some REALLY good prepaid deals coming up on other
networks!

What would you do if cost of service IS and issue and
wanting the best deal you can find?
Keep the phone or send it back ?

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Old 08-10-2009, 09:48 PM
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In article <Xns9C63138672D2noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...


> Why do you feel it necessary to attack me for simply pointing out to
> anyone who may be interested that they can get great Verizon service
> with NO MINUTES and unlimited texting for $40/month with no addon fees?


The reason had nothing to do with Verizon. But if you'd actually paid
attention, you'd realize that.


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Old 08-11-2009, 03:09 AM
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me@privacy.net wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that PagePlus uses a PRL similar to what the old America's
>> Choice plan used.

>
> Hi Steven....
>
> Need some advice if you don't mind
>
> I currently use T Mo prepaid and having decent luck
> with it but as you know it and ATT require GSM based
> phones
>
> Well I just bought a new Nokia E63 unlocked smart phone
> from Dell for $150. I use prepaid min's on this phone
> and just use the wifi at ant free hotspot
>
> Having said that...... with all the competition in
> prepaid I'm wondering if I should have NOT bought this
> phone as it locks me in GSM networks only and there may
> be some REALLY good prepaid deals coming up on other
> networks!
>
> What would you do if cost of service IS and issue and
> wanting the best deal you can find?
> Keep the phone or send it back ?


A great deal depends on what sort of coverage you need.
AFAIK Verizon Wireless has virtually the entire country covered.
If you need to be able to use the phone wherever you are, that may be a
consideration. If another carrier covers all the places you might
reasonably be and offers a lower price, you might consider it.

I signed with Bell Atlantic Mobile, now Verizon Wireless, many years
ago. I don't know if there were any competing carriers in the area at
the time. Bell Atlantic Mobile had a store in a local shopping center.
I walked in, inquired about prices and bought a phone. I've never had
cause to regret it. YMMV!!!!

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Old 08-11-2009, 03:22 AM
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me@privacy.net wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect that PagePlus uses a PRL similar to what the old America's
>> Choice plan used.

>
> Hi Steven....
>
> Need some advice if you don't mind
>
> I currently use T Mo prepaid and having decent luck
> with it but as you know it and ATT require GSM based
> phones
>
> Well I just bought a new Nokia E63 unlocked smart phone
> from Dell for $150. I use prepaid min's on this phone
> and just use the wifi at ant free hotspot
>
> Having said that...... with all the competition in
> prepaid I'm wondering if I should have NOT bought this
> phone as it locks me in GSM networks only and there may
> be some REALLY good prepaid deals coming up on other
> networks!
>
> What would you do if cost of service IS and issue and
> wanting the best deal you can find?
> Keep the phone or send it back ?


Personally, I'd find a Verizon smart phone with WiFi and activate it on
PagePlus on their unlimited plan. Their new unlimited plan is an
amazingly good deal if you aren't using too much 3G data a month.

1. It's sometimes useful to have 3G data access, and even 20MB is
sufficient if you're just using it as needed, at not tethering.

2. There's a lot of areas I go to with no T-Mobile coverage, and either
poor or no AT&T service, so neither of the GSM providers are too great
for me to use. Even in the San Francisco Bay area, there are many areas
with no T-Mobile coverage, and while AT&T coverage is better it's still
far worse than Verizon coverage.

3. T-Mobile has no data plan for prepaid unless you get a Sidekick plan
and play some games with the device. Even if they do have data, you
won't get 3G data with the E63, wrong band.

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Old 08-11-2009, 03:41 AM
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In article <4a80d584$0$1624$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> 3. T-Mobile has no data plan for prepaid unless you get a Sidekick plan
> and play some games with the device. Even if they do have data, you
> won't get 3G data with the E63, wrong band.


that never was supported and no longer works.

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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>> Well I just bought a new Nokia E63 unlocked smart phone
>> from Dell for $150. I use prepaid min's on this phone
>> and just use the wifi at ant free hotspot


>Personally, I'd find a Verizon smart phone with WiFi and activate it on
>PagePlus on their unlimited plan. Their new unlimited plan is an
>amazingly good deal if you aren't using too much 3G data a month.


That is a great deal!!

Where I live now ( Rolla, Mo ) does have PagePlus and
Verizon coverage

But my hometown which I go back to often (Hannibal,
MO)...... does NOT

How would that impact things?

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Old 08-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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me@privacy.net wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Well I just bought a new Nokia E63 unlocked smart phone
>>> from Dell for $150. I use prepaid min's on this phone
>>> and just use the wifi at ant free hotspot

>
>> Personally, I'd find a Verizon smart phone with WiFi and activate it on
>> PagePlus on their unlimited plan. Their new unlimited plan is an
>> amazingly good deal if you aren't using too much 3G data a month.

>
> That is a great deal!!
>
> Where I live now ( Rolla, Mo ) does have PagePlus and
> Verizon coverage
>
> But my hometown which I go back to often (Hannibal,
> MO)...... does NOT
>
> How would that impact things?


Depends on who the carrier is in your home town, and whether or not its
network is considered roaming.

I've found that some non-Verizon networks are not charged roaming, i.e.
Golden State Cellular doesn't. But they are part owned by Verizon.

I don't know if there is any way to determine if a smaller carrier is
roaming or not on PagePlus. I don't think you'll get a good answer from
customer service.

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Old 08-11-2009, 10:15 PM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>> But my hometown which I go back to often (Hannibal,
>> MO)...... does NOT
>>
>> How would that impact things?

>
>Depends on who the carrier is in your home town, and whether or not its
>network is considered roaming.


The carriers in Hannibal Mo are US Cellular, Sprint,
ATT

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Old 08-11-2009, 10:56 PM
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me@privacy.net wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> But my hometown which I go back to often (Hannibal,
>>> MO)...... does NOT
>>>
>>> How would that impact things?

>> Depends on who the carrier is in your home town, and whether or not its
>> network is considered roaming.

>
> The carriers in Hannibal Mo are US Cellular, Sprint,
> ATT


Well in Oregon, U.S. Cellular was not included with PagePlus and double
dialing was required, indicating roaming.

But be patient as Verizon's next target acquisition is U.S. Cellular.

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Old 08-12-2009, 02:36 AM
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me@privacy.net wrote in news:ucj385hpqb5rsgsslq50993rn52n6ucp0a@4ax.com:

> How would that impact things?
>
>


That's fairly obvious. You'd be paying big roaming charges in Hannibal.

Did Hannibal have Alltel coverage? It should add to the Verizon coverage
shortly.


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Old 08-12-2009, 02:38 AM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:4a81e8bf$0$1596
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> But be patient as Verizon's next target acquisition is U.S. Cellular.
>
>


"We are The Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."


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