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Old 06-11-2008, 06:30 AM
David Moyer
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Default Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.

Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008

"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."

much more here....

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

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Old 06-11-2008, 07:24 AM
Alan Baker
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Default Re: Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

In article
<meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>,
David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote:

> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/


Ah, everybody knows that Thurrott is just a "Maccie"...

LOL

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

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Old 06-11-2008, 11:19 AM
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David Moyer wrote:

> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200



Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...


, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,



Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.

Still a fashion accessory, no more.



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Old 06-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Ron
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Default Re: Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:24:08 GMT, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:

>In article
><meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>,
> David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote:
>
>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>> much more here....
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
>Ah, everybody knows that Thurrott is just a "Maccie"...
>
>LOL

100% WRONG

Dont like the message try to descredit the messanger?

Paul is a Microsft person, and has dozens of great books
telling about Windows the things Microsoft left out of their
manuals.

His book on Windows XP, I belive is the largest selling XP book
out there. Windows XP Secrets

He has Windows web site:

http://www.winsupersite.com

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Old 06-11-2008, 01:36 PM
Ron
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:

>
>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.



Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where
you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters
feed) FREE.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/appstore.html

Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with
apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices.

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Old 06-11-2008, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> stated in post
meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-00....static.ge.com on 6/10/08 11:30
PM:

> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/


But... but... Steve Carroll wants me to defend the idea that the iPhone is
industry changing. Maybe if he read a thing or two about the device he
would understand.

Then again, speaking out of his other brain he claimed to agree me.
Someday, I hope, he learns to be consistent.


--
Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein


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Old 06-11-2008, 02:37 PM
Richard Colton
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"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:

<bollocks snipped>
> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple,


Do you have to get up especially early to practice being this fucking
stoopid?

Now take your cross-posted shite and keep it to relevant groups.

XP'd & FU'd

--
Unlock Your Phone's Potential
www.UselessInfo.org.uk
www.ThePhoneLocker.co.uk
www.GSM-Solutions.co.uk



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Old 06-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Mayor of R'lyeh
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
wrote:

>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
>Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
>"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
>much more here....
>
>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
>http://www.apple.com/iphone/


"What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
that
the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
one
of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
comments. "
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3?dmode=source

"Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....f?dmode=source

Among many others.

It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)




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Old 06-11-2008, 03:32 PM
Carl
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David Moyer wrote:
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
> planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
> in How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few
> reasons to ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a
> dramatically important computing platform and one you should not
> ignore. Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or
> Windows Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient
> Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>

Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a task
manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS Outlook, moving it a
little more away from being a glorified toy and more towards business use,
much as I want one, I won't have one. I don't even begin to understand how
you can compare it to a Blackberry. The iPhone is still a device designed
for the non-professional user.



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Old 06-11-2008, 06:10 PM
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In article <484ff03a$0$5003$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> David Moyer wrote:
> > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
> > planet.
> >
> > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >
> > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> > device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
> > in How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few
> > reasons to ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing.
> > I've said it before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a
> > dramatically important computing platform and one you should not
> > ignore. Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or
> > Windows Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient
> > Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >
> > much more here....
> >
> > http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >

> Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a task
> manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS Outlook,


Coming in early July. Of this year. It was announced at the beginning of
this week.

If you'd done just a smidgen of homework....

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:12 PM
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On Jun 11, 2:10*pm, Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID>
wrote:
> In article <484ff03a$0$5003$607ed...@cv.net>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *"Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
> > David Moyer wrote:
> > > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
> > > planet.

>
> > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008

>
> > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> > > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> > > device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
> > > in How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few
> > > reasons to ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing.
> > > I've said it before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a
> > > dramatically important computing platform and one you should not
> > > ignore. Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or
> > > Windows Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient
> > > Soviet-era technology by comparison."

>
> > > much more here....

>
> > >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp

>
> > >http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
> > Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a task
> > manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS Outlook,

>
> Coming in early July. Of this year. It was announced at the beginning of
> this week.
>
> If you'd done just a smidgen of homework....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Basically the only way the iPhone can succeed is when they force it to
work with all the Windows business tools! Without MSFT, Apple
wouldn't exit. Without stealing all of Xerox's intellectual property,
Apple wouldn't exist.

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Steve de Mena
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Carl wrote:
> David Moyer wrote:
>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
>> planet.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
>> in How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few
>> reasons to ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing.
>> I've said it before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a
>> dramatically important computing platform and one you should not
>> ignore. Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or
>> Windows Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient
>> Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>> much more here....
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>

> Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a task
> manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS Outlook, moving it a
> little more away from being a glorified toy and more towards business use,
> much as I want one, I won't have one. I don't even begin to understand how
> you can compare it to a Blackberry. The iPhone is still a device designed
> for the non-professional user.


I guess you haven't read about the Apple support for Microsoft
Exchange servers upcoming in version 2.0?

Steve

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:23 PM
News
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Ron wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.

>
>
>
> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store



If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:50 PM
Alan Baker
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In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
> >
> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >
> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >
> >much more here....
> >
> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >
> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
> e=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
> e=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>
>
>


You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
interest"...

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:52 PM
Ron
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:

>
>
>Ron wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.

>>
>>
>>
>> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store

>
>
>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....



If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
there's no reasoning with You.

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Old 06-11-2008, 07:06 PM
News
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Ron wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Ron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store

>>
>>
>>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....

>
>
>
> If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
> there's no reasoning with You.




Wouldn't know. I have never used a Palm device.

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Old 06-11-2008, 07:11 PM
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In article
<8326096e-f43c-4dd7-b2b3-c78d11a424f4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Without stealing all of Xerox's intellectual property, Apple wouldn't exist.


Prove it, or Lurky will make you prove it.

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:09 PM
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"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
>>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>>Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>>"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>>ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>>before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>>computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>>used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>>on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>>much more here....
>>
>>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3?dmode=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....f?dmode=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)


My first thought when I read Alan's post.


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Old 06-11-2008, 08:10 PM
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"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
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> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/


I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.


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Old 06-11-2008, 08:18 PM
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In article <calvin-77962B.08110411062008@news.goldengate.net>,
Calvin <calvin@microsoft.com> wrote:

> In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
> > David Moyer wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> > >
> > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> > > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> > > device to just $200

> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
> >
> >
> > , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> > > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,

> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
> >
> > Still a fashion accessory, no more.

>
> This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF?


MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
real e-mail with attachments?

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com:

> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with
> apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices.
>
>


I'm saving this statement to My Documents for later......(c;


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Old 06-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>> >
>> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>> >
>> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>> >
>> >much more here....
>> >
>> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>> >
>> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>>
>> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
>> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
>> that
>> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
>> one
>> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
>> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
>> comments. "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> Among many others.
>>
>> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
>> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
>> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
>> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>>
>>
>>

>
> You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> interest"...


We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
argument.


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Old 06-11-2008, 09:11 PM
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0600, "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
>news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>> much more here....
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
>I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.



Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still
find a RIM or Palm cheaper.

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Old 06-11-2008, 09:22 PM
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"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:58 -0600, "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
>>news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
>>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>>
>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>>
>>> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>>> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>>> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>>> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>>> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>>> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>>
>>> much more here....
>>>
>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>>
>>I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.

>
>
> Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still
> find a RIM or Palm cheaper.


And?


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Old 06-11-2008, 09:34 PM
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In article <w7idnd2vOYs8is3VnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:

> Ron wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.

> >
> >
> >
> > Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store

>
>
> If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....


Poke around a bit for articles about the iPhone SDK this week at WWDC.

Or, if pictures are easier for you than words, watch the WWDC keynote
video and see examples of some of the upcoming applications being demoed.

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:04 PM
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In article <484ff03a$0$5003$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a task
> manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS Outlook, moving it a
> little more away from being a glorified toy and more towards business use,
> much as I want one, I won't have one. I don't even begin to understand how
> you can compare it to a Blackberry. The iPhone is still a device designed
> for the non-professional user.


they announced that on Monday as well, take the tour of "MobleMe.com"...
and if you want to do more than syncing of phone, addresses, calendars,
task, todo's, then you can connect any iPhone to MS Exchange 2003, or
2007.

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/

the tour of the features

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/guidedtour/

and the iPhone for Enterprise

http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/

Sweet!

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:07 PM
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In article
<8326096e-f43c-4dd7-b2b3-c78d11a424f4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Without MSFT, Apple
> wouldn't exit. Without stealing all of Xerox's intellectual property,
> Apple wouldn't exist.


actually, Apple was the one that put MS on the map when won the contract
to make their basic for the Apple //.

and Apple PAID Xerox, they didn't steal a thing. Plus Xerox "invited"
Apple to see what they were doing, they never invited MS to anything.

and besides.... today, everyone uses the Mac UI, not the Xerox one.

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:18 PM
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In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
News <News@Group.name> wrote:

> , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,

>
>
> Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.


ah, there are over 1700 apps for the iPhone, with 1000's more coming on
July 11th.

http://www.apple.com/webapps/
>
> Still a fashion accessory, no more.


nah, the iPhone is far and away the most sophiscated cell phone you can
buy. It has the largest library of quality apps, the longest battery
life, the easy to navigate UI, the only phone with a real browser, etc,
etc, etc. no other cell phone is even close to the iphone in overall
functionality.

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:22 PM
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In article <p0lv44po0cd3p3u665aojm27q8ar4n0ae6@4ax.com>,
Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where
> you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters
> feed) FREE.
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/appstore.html
>
> Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with
> apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices.


yes, that's a nice feature, plus it's on OSX so you won't have to deal
with quirky issues like Windows users are force to work with every day.

it's one incredible device, that's for sure.

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:25 PM
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David Moyer wrote:

> In article
> <8326096e-f43c-4dd7-b2b3-c78d11a424f4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Without MSFT, Apple
>> wouldn't exit. Without stealing all of Xerox's intellectual property,
>> Apple wouldn't exist.

>
> actually, Apple was the one that put MS on the map when won the contract
> to make their basic for the Apple //.


MS was founded to develop and sell BASIC interpreters for the Altair
8800. The Apple //'s integer BASIC in ROM was written by Steve Wozniak.

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