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Old 12-02-2009, 06:55 PM
Larry
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Default Re: Attention Larry, it's time to get out the heavy-duty foil

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
F3B878.10224602122009@nothing.attdns.com:

> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data
>
> Feds ŒPinged¹ Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year
>
> Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with customer location
> data more than 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009,
> according to a company manager who disclosed the statistic at a
> non-public interception and wiretapping conference in October.
>
> The manager also revealed the existence of a previously undisclosed web
> portal that Sprint provides law enforcement to conduct automated

³pings²
> to track users. Through the website, authorized agents can type in a
> mobile phone number and obtain global positioning system (GPS)
> coordinates of the phone.
>


Another reason Skype is so important. 256-bit AES encryption with a
different key on EVERY call, forwarded through any of 65,535 random ports
across a vast network of users acting like supernodes.

Think of how hard it is to just track the routing, to say nothing of
breaking a 256-bit AES encryption without the key during a 10 minute
phone call. Nothing's impossible. But it sure in hell beats sellphone's
wide-open government-regulated snoopers on GSM and CDMA....

I'm talking to New Zealand from a free hotel wifi sitting in Hardees
eating a hamburger on Skype-to-Skype. Send the FBI by and surprise me
with their abilities.

Sellphones are about as secure as the PA system from a Mosque
minarette....

================================================== ==================

On a more serious note, let's discuss using a prepaid sellphone that is
recharged from a PIN card bought for cash from a local 7-11. You only
needed a gmail email address to setup the prepaid card from the webpage
at that hotel wifi above. Click PAPERLESS BILLING and they never send
you a paper bill to any kind of address, bogus or otherwise. All your
verification information is sent to the bogus gmail account in the name
of Melvin Schultz, a fictitious character that doesn't exist. Doesn't
matter which prepaid company you use. They make their money off these
hobos living under a bridge in a cardboard box. The address is never
verified. Mine is a PO Box, not my home address. Only that gmail addy
needed to be valid for communications.

Now, how are the cops going to trace the GPS phone back to me, THAT WILL
STAND UP IN COURT, if I'm not connected to the Tracphone in any way?
They force Tracphone to tell them where my phone is. I don't HAVE a
Tracphone! I'm not listed, Melvin is! In the Tracphone records, I don't
exist and never have. So, no cop or Fed Gestapo tracing because I don't
exist. It has to be a real problem! I bought the phone for cash at
Wally World and didn't put it on the Verizon system until Melvin bought
the PagePlus account, anonymously, from that hotel IP that can't be
tracked to me, and loaded it up with $$ bought for cash at a phone card
store like 7-11.

Again, send the FBI around to that prepaid phone Melvin uses. The crooks
use it, I'm sure! The really good crooks aren't that stupid.

================================================== ===================

Melvin Schultz has a long history dating way back to the Ma Bell hard
wired days of the 1950's. A bunch of my ham radio friends used to hang
out 18 hours a day on 3903 Khz, AM at first, then SSB after its
popularity replaced AM in the late 1960's. But, you had to be at least
listening to hear someone calling you on 3903, which is always noisy.

So, Melvin Schultz was invented to alert you to get on the frequency when
your ham radio was off. Good ol' Ma Bell wanted $8/min to call the next
town over, to say nothing of calling your buddy in Chicago to get him on
3903. BUT, if you made a person-to-person, collect, long distance call
to your Chicago buddy's home phone for "Melvin Schultz", the operator
would call Chicago for you! "I have a collect, person-to-person long
distance call for a Mr Melvin Schultz. Will you accept the charge?", she
would ask them. Calling collect prevented the smartasses at some numbers
from saying "I'm Melvin", instantly starting the $8/min clock to be
funny, a joke on you. "No, Melvin left an hour ago and I don't know when
he'll be back.", the answering party would tell the operator. "I'm
sorry, Sir.", she'd say to the caller. "I cannot complete your call."
You thanked her and hung up....NO CHARGE. A few minutes later, after the
big tubes in The Beast at your buddy's station in Chicago warmed up,
YOU'd get a call from HIM on 3903, the "net" frequency.

Noone uses Melvin any more as it's free to call Chicago from your
sellphone to get them on the air....if you even need to get them on the
air because you're going to be on for hours....the way hams have been
since the turn of 1900. It saved us $M over the years back then...and
saved us from calling him on a Blue Box like Woz and Steve Jobs
used....hacking Ma Bell.

================================================== =====================

As usual, the cops can only track the HONEST sellphone users......


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Old 12-02-2009, 07:28 PM
Bill Sanderson
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Default Re: Attention Larry, it's time to get out the heavy-duty foil

Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not be
able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where you are.


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CD597CACAFA3noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> F3B878.10224602122009@nothing.attdns.com:
>
>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data
>>
>> Feds OPinged¹ Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year
>>
>> Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with customer location
>> data more than 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009,
>> according to a company manager who disclosed the statistic at a
>> non-public interception and wiretapping conference in October.
>>
>> The manager also revealed the existence of a previously undisclosed web
>> portal that Sprint provides law enforcement to conduct automated

> ³pings²
>> to track users. Through the website, authorized agents can type in a
>> mobile phone number and obtain global positioning system (GPS)
>> coordinates of the phone.
>>

>
> Another reason Skype is so important. 256-bit AES encryption with a
> different key on EVERY call, forwarded through any of 65,535 random ports
> across a vast network of users acting like supernodes.
>
> Think of how hard it is to just track the routing, to say nothing of
> breaking a 256-bit AES encryption without the key during a 10 minute
> phone call. Nothing's impossible. But it sure in hell beats sellphone's
> wide-open government-regulated snoopers on GSM and CDMA....
>
> I'm talking to New Zealand from a free hotel wifi sitting in Hardees
> eating a hamburger on Skype-to-Skype. Send the FBI by and surprise me
> with their abilities.
>
> Sellphones are about as secure as the PA system from a Mosque
> minarette....
>
> ================================================== ==================
>
> On a more serious note, let's discuss using a prepaid sellphone that is
> recharged from a PIN card bought for cash from a local 7-11. You only
> needed a gmail email address to setup the prepaid card from the webpage
> at that hotel wifi above. Click PAPERLESS BILLING and they never send
> you a paper bill to any kind of address, bogus or otherwise. All your
> verification information is sent to the bogus gmail account in the name
> of Melvin Schultz, a fictitious character that doesn't exist. Doesn't
> matter which prepaid company you use. They make their money off these
> hobos living under a bridge in a cardboard box. The address is never
> verified. Mine is a PO Box, not my home address. Only that gmail addy
> needed to be valid for communications.
>
> Now, how are the cops going to trace the GPS phone back to me, THAT WILL
> STAND UP IN COURT, if I'm not connected to the Tracphone in any way?
> They force Tracphone to tell them where my phone is. I don't HAVE a
> Tracphone! I'm not listed, Melvin is! In the Tracphone records, I don't
> exist and never have. So, no cop or Fed Gestapo tracing because I don't
> exist. It has to be a real problem! I bought the phone for cash at
> Wally World and didn't put it on the Verizon system until Melvin bought
> the PagePlus account, anonymously, from that hotel IP that can't be
> tracked to me, and loaded it up with $$ bought for cash at a phone card
> store like 7-11.
>
> Again, send the FBI around to that prepaid phone Melvin uses. The crooks
> use it, I'm sure! The really good crooks aren't that stupid.
>
> ================================================== ===================
>
> Melvin Schultz has a long history dating way back to the Ma Bell hard
> wired days of the 1950's. A bunch of my ham radio friends used to hang
> out 18 hours a day on 3903 Khz, AM at first, then SSB after its
> popularity replaced AM in the late 1960's. But, you had to be at least
> listening to hear someone calling you on 3903, which is always noisy.
>
> So, Melvin Schultz was invented to alert you to get on the frequency when
> your ham radio was off. Good ol' Ma Bell wanted $8/min to call the next
> town over, to say nothing of calling your buddy in Chicago to get him on
> 3903. BUT, if you made a person-to-person, collect, long distance call
> to your Chicago buddy's home phone for "Melvin Schultz", the operator
> would call Chicago for you! "I have a collect, person-to-person long
> distance call for a Mr Melvin Schultz. Will you accept the charge?", she
> would ask them. Calling collect prevented the smartasses at some numbers
> from saying "I'm Melvin", instantly starting the $8/min clock to be
> funny, a joke on you. "No, Melvin left an hour ago and I don't know when
> he'll be back.", the answering party would tell the operator. "I'm
> sorry, Sir.", she'd say to the caller. "I cannot complete your call."
> You thanked her and hung up....NO CHARGE. A few minutes later, after the
> big tubes in The Beast at your buddy's station in Chicago warmed up,
> YOU'd get a call from HIM on 3903, the "net" frequency.
>
> Noone uses Melvin any more as it's free to call Chicago from your
> sellphone to get them on the air....if you even need to get them on the
> air because you're going to be on for hours....the way hams have been
> since the turn of 1900. It saved us $M over the years back then...and
> saved us from calling him on a Blue Box like Woz and Steve Jobs
> used....hacking Ma Bell.
>
> ================================================== =====================
>
> As usual, the cops can only track the HONEST sellphone users......
>


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Old 12-02-2009, 11:20 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Default Re: Attention Larry, it's time to get out the heavy-duty foil

Bill Sanderson wrote:
> Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not
> be able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where
> you are.
>
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CD597CACAFA3noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>> F3B878.10224602122009@nothing.attdns.com:
>>
>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data
>>>
>>> Feds OPinged¹ Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year
>>>
>>> Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with customer location
>>> data more than 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009,
>>> according to a company manager who disclosed the statistic at a
>>> non-public interception and wiretapping conference in October.
>>>
>>> The manager also revealed the existence of a previously undisclosed web
>>> portal that Sprint provides law enforcement to conduct automated

>> ³pings²
>>> to track users. Through the website, authorized agents can type in a
>>> mobile phone number and obtain global positioning system (GPS)
>>> coordinates of the phone.
>>>

>>
>> Another reason Skype is so important. 256-bit AES encryption with a
>> different key on EVERY call, forwarded through any of 65,535 random ports
>> across a vast network of users acting like supernodes.
>>
>> Think of how hard it is to just track the routing, to say nothing of
>> breaking a 256-bit AES encryption without the key during a 10 minute
>> phone call. Nothing's impossible. But it sure in hell beats sellphone's
>> wide-open government-regulated snoopers on GSM and CDMA....
>>
>> I'm talking to New Zealand from a free hotel wifi sitting in Hardees
>> eating a hamburger on Skype-to-Skype. Send the FBI by and surprise me
>> with their abilities.
>>
>> Sellphones are about as secure as the PA system from a Mosque
>> minarette....
>>
>> ================================================== ==================
>>
>> On a more serious note, let's discuss using a prepaid sellphone that is
>> recharged from a PIN card bought for cash from a local 7-11. You only
>> needed a gmail email address to setup the prepaid card from the webpage
>> at that hotel wifi above. Click PAPERLESS BILLING and they never send
>> you a paper bill to any kind of address, bogus or otherwise. All your
>> verification information is sent to the bogus gmail account in the name
>> of Melvin Schultz, a fictitious character that doesn't exist. Doesn't
>> matter which prepaid company you use. They make their money off these
>> hobos living under a bridge in a cardboard box. The address is never
>> verified. Mine is a PO Box, not my home address. Only that gmail addy
>> needed to be valid for communications.
>>
>> Now, how are the cops going to trace the GPS phone back to me, THAT WILL
>> STAND UP IN COURT, if I'm not connected to the Tracphone in any way?
>> They force Tracphone to tell them where my phone is. I don't HAVE a
>> Tracphone! I'm not listed, Melvin is! In the Tracphone records, I don't
>> exist and never have. So, no cop or Fed Gestapo tracing because I don't
>> exist. It has to be a real problem! I bought the phone for cash at
>> Wally World and didn't put it on the Verizon system until Melvin bought
>> the PagePlus account, anonymously, from that hotel IP that can't be
>> tracked to me, and loaded it up with $$ bought for cash at a phone card
>> store like 7-11.
>>
>> Again, send the FBI around to that prepaid phone Melvin uses. The crooks
>> use it, I'm sure! The really good crooks aren't that stupid.
>>
>> ================================================== ===================
>>
>> Melvin Schultz has a long history dating way back to the Ma Bell hard
>> wired days of the 1950's. A bunch of my ham radio friends used to hang
>> out 18 hours a day on 3903 Khz, AM at first, then SSB after its
>> popularity replaced AM in the late 1960's. But, you had to be at least
>> listening to hear someone calling you on 3903, which is always noisy.
>>
>> So, Melvin Schultz was invented to alert you to get on the frequency when
>> your ham radio was off. Good ol' Ma Bell wanted $8/min to call the next
>> town over, to say nothing of calling your buddy in Chicago to get him on
>> 3903. BUT, if you made a person-to-person, collect, long distance call
>> to your Chicago buddy's home phone for "Melvin Schultz", the operator
>> would call Chicago for you! "I have a collect, person-to-person long
>> distance call for a Mr Melvin Schultz. Will you accept the charge?", she
>> would ask them. Calling collect prevented the smartasses at some numbers
>> from saying "I'm Melvin", instantly starting the $8/min clock to be
>> funny, a joke on you. "No, Melvin left an hour ago and I don't know when
>> he'll be back.", the answering party would tell the operator. "I'm
>> sorry, Sir.", she'd say to the caller. "I cannot complete your call."
>> You thanked her and hung up....NO CHARGE. A few minutes later, after the
>> big tubes in The Beast at your buddy's station in Chicago warmed up,
>> YOU'd get a call from HIM on 3903, the "net" frequency.
>>
>> Noone uses Melvin any more as it's free to call Chicago from your
>> sellphone to get them on the air....if you even need to get them on the
>> air because you're going to be on for hours....the way hams have been
>> since the turn of 1900. It saved us $M over the years back then...and
>> saved us from calling him on a Blue Box like Woz and Steve Jobs
>> used....hacking Ma Bell.
>>
>> ================================================== =====================
>>
>> As usual, the cops can only track the HONEST sellphone users......
>>


Which one is the honest one? ;-)

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Old 12-03-2009, 12:49 AM
Larry
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Default Re: Attention Larry, it's time to get out the heavy-duty foil

"Bill Sanderson" <bill_sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in
news:hf6ikm$8vp$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not
> be able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where
> you are.
>
>

Which MAC are you referring to? That's not registered or stored anywhere
by the cellular phone system the cops are after. The hotel didn't store
it, either.



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Old 12-03-2009, 01:00 AM
George
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Larry wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> F3B878.10224602122009@nothing.attdns.com:
>
>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data
>>
>> Feds ŒPinged¹ Sprint GPS Data 8 Million Times Over a Year
>>
>> Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with customer location
>> data more than 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009,
>> according to a company manager who disclosed the statistic at a
>> non-public interception and wiretapping conference in October.
>>
>> The manager also revealed the existence of a previously undisclosed web
>> portal that Sprint provides law enforcement to conduct automated

> ³pings²
>> to track users. Through the website, authorized agents can type in a
>> mobile phone number and obtain global positioning system (GPS)
>> coordinates of the phone.
>>

>
> Another reason Skype is so important. 256-bit AES encryption with a
> different key on EVERY call, forwarded through any of 65,535 random ports
> across a vast network of users acting like supernodes.
>
> Think of how hard it is to just track the routing, to say nothing of
> breaking a 256-bit AES encryption without the key during a 10 minute
> phone call. Nothing's impossible. But it sure in hell beats sellphone's
> wide-open government-regulated snoopers on GSM and CDMA....
>
> I'm talking to New Zealand from a free hotel wifi sitting in Hardees
> eating a hamburger on Skype-to-Skype. Send the FBI by and surprise me
> with their abilities.
>
> Sellphones are about as secure as the PA system from a Mosque
> minarette....
>
> ================================================== ==================
>
> On a more serious note, let's discuss using a prepaid sellphone that is
> recharged from a PIN card bought for cash from a local 7-11. You only
> needed a gmail email address to setup the prepaid card from the webpage
> at that hotel wifi above. Click PAPERLESS BILLING and they never send
> you a paper bill to any kind of address, bogus or otherwise. All your
> verification information is sent to the bogus gmail account in the name
> of Melvin Schultz, a fictitious character that doesn't exist. Doesn't
> matter which prepaid company you use. They make their money off these
> hobos living under a bridge in a cardboard box. The address is never
> verified. Mine is a PO Box, not my home address. Only that gmail addy
> needed to be valid for communications.
>
> Now, how are the cops going to trace the GPS phone back to me, THAT WILL
> STAND UP IN COURT, if I'm not connected to the Tracphone in any way?
> They force Tracphone to tell them where my phone is. I don't HAVE a
> Tracphone! I'm not listed, Melvin is! In the Tracphone records, I don't
> exist and never have. So, no cop or Fed Gestapo tracing because I don't
> exist. It has to be a real problem! I bought the phone for cash at
> Wally World and didn't put it on the Verizon system until Melvin bought
> the PagePlus account, anonymously, from that hotel IP that can't be
> tracked to me, and loaded it up with $$ bought for cash at a phone card
> store like 7-11.
>
> Again, send the FBI around to that prepaid phone Melvin uses. The crooks
> use it, I'm sure! The really good crooks aren't that stupid.
>
> ================================================== ===================
>
> Melvin Schultz has a long history dating way back to the Ma Bell hard
> wired days of the 1950's. A bunch of my ham radio friends used to hang
> out 18 hours a day on 3903 Khz, AM at first, then SSB after its
> popularity replaced AM in the late 1960's. But, you had to be at least
> listening to hear someone calling you on 3903, which is always noisy.
>
> So, Melvin Schultz was invented to alert you to get on the frequency when
> your ham radio was off. Good ol' Ma Bell wanted $8/min to call the next
> town over, to say nothing of calling your buddy in Chicago to get him on
> 3903. BUT, if you made a person-to-person, collect, long distance call
> to your Chicago buddy's home phone for "Melvin Schultz", the operator
> would call Chicago for you! "I have a collect, person-to-person long
> distance call for a Mr Melvin Schultz. Will you accept the charge?", she
> would ask them. Calling collect prevented the smartasses at some numbers
> from saying "I'm Melvin", instantly starting the $8/min clock to be
> funny, a joke on you. "No, Melvin left an hour ago and I don't know when
> he'll be back.", the answering party would tell the operator. "I'm
> sorry, Sir.", she'd say to the caller. "I cannot complete your call."
> You thanked her and hung up....NO CHARGE. A few minutes later, after the
> big tubes in The Beast at your buddy's station in Chicago warmed up,
> YOU'd get a call from HIM on 3903, the "net" frequency.
>
> Noone uses Melvin any more as it's free to call Chicago from your
> sellphone to get them on the air....if you even need to get them on the
> air because you're going to be on for hours....the way hams have been
> since the turn of 1900. It saved us $M over the years back then...and
> saved us from calling him on a Blue Box like Woz and Steve Jobs
> used....hacking Ma Bell.
>
> ================================================== =====================
>
> As usual, the cops can only track the HONEST sellphone users......
>

Whats a "sellphone"?

And of course you haven't announced how wonderful skype is in a long
time and for some reason you forgot to mention how they cooperated with
the Chinese government and possibly others to decrypt the conversation..

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Old 12-03-2009, 02:03 AM
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In article <Xns9CD5D3CD74159noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...
>
> "Bill Sanderson" <bill_sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in
> news:hf6ikm$8vp$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >
> > Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not
> > be able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where
> > you are.
> >
> >

> Which MAC are you referring to? That's not registered or stored anywhere
> by the cellular phone system the cops are after. The hotel didn't store
> it, either.


Some do. The ISP used by the San Diego hotel we use at work knows my
laptop's wireless MAC address. That's why I don't have to log in every
time I use the wi-fi.

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Old 12-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9CD597CACAFA3noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Another reason Skype is so important. 256-bit AES encryption with a
>> different key on EVERY call, forwarded through any of 65,535 random ports
>> across a vast network of users acting like supernodes.
>>
>> Think of how hard it is to just track the routing, to say nothing of
>> breaking a 256-bit AES encryption without the key during a 10 minute
>> phone call.

>
> If you think the NSA hasn't had this handled from the beginning, you're
> listening too much to your aluminum foil salesman.


Aluminum? I thought tin was traditional! ;-)

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Old 12-03-2009, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Attention Larry, it's time to get out the heavy-duty foil

Bill Sanderson wrote:
> Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not
> be able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where
> you are.
>


Yeah, because Lord knows they have the form he filled out after he
picked up that network adapter for $5 from a garage sale last summer...


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Old 12-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Larry
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"WindsorFox<[SS]>" <windsor.fox.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in news:hf8rup$7ge
$1@posting2.glorb.com:

> Bill Sanderson wrote:
>> Your nic's mac address is in every packet that goes out. They may not
>> be able to decode your traffic, but they do know it is you, and where
>> you are.
>>

>
> Yeah, because Lord knows they have the form he filled out after he
> picked up that network adapter for $5 from a garage sale last summer...
>
>


.....and for the record, you can use any Ethernet device on my cable
provider, not just the one Comcrap used to sentence us to trying to prevent
sharing or LANs Comcrap didn't get paid for.

You don't need to spoof anything in a hotel, either.

Why would the MAC of the HOTEL's router sent out with WAN packets from its
network trace back to any device temporarily hooked to its 192.168.1.122
LAN port? Your Ethernet card's MAC on the ROUTER LAN isn't passed to the
WAN side.

The post is nonsense. The cops are tracing the PHONE not the internet
connection that put that phone on Melvin's bogus prepaid account.


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Old 12-03-2009, 09:55 PM
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:09:44 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>....and for the record, you can use any Ethernet device on my cable
>provider, not just the one Comcrap used to sentence us to trying to prevent
>sharing or LANs Comcrap didn't get paid for.


Comcast never cared about that. You're probably thinking of the
defunct ISP, home.com.

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