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Old 03-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch
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Default AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

New Choice - No contract required after March 26
http://is.gd/nUBb

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Old 03-18-2009, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Mar 18, 4:31*pm, "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your
iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
> *http://is.gd/nUBb



For most people it would be cheaper to activate an IPhone for 31 days
and then pay the AT&T $175 ETF!

$200 +$35 +$76 + $175 = $486 for 16GB iPhone

Do you see an error in my Math or Logic?

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Old 03-19-2009, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

"Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch"
<vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7a7d50c5-c643-4200-892d-f3847d7506b1
@t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
> http://is.gd/nUBb
>


Business much be much worse than I thought.....


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Old 03-19-2009, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Mar 19, 1:22*am, TennCup <b...@cha.bud> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:03:29 -0700 (PDT), "Read more than 240,000
> Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 18, 4:31*pm, "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your
> >iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
> >> *http://is.gd/nUBb

>
> >For most people it would be cheaper to activate an IPhone for 31 days
> >and then pay the AT&T $175 ETF!

>
> >$200 +$35 +$76 + $175 = $486 for 16GB iPhone

>
> >Do you see an error in my Math or Logic?

>
> After thinking about this some more, I wonder why one would get this
> phone if he is going to cancel service which you would have to do to
> cancel the contract. It really doesn't make much sense to pay this
> much for a phone for less than a year anyway.
>
> So, I don't see the logic either.


I have local friends that have iPhones and they want more to give as
gifts to relatives who are not on the AT&T Network. In some cases they
want to give the existing iPhone to a relative in another country and
buy a new one for themselves.


The $76 is the tariff with $10 taxes etc for one month on AT&T




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Old 03-19-2009, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:03:29 -0700 (PDT), "Read more than 240,000
Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mar 18, 4:31*pm, "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your
>iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
>> *http://is.gd/nUBb

>
>
>For most people it would be cheaper to activate an IPhone for 31 days
>and then pay the AT&T $175 ETF!
>
>$200 +$35 +$76 + $175 = $486 for 16GB iPhone
>
>Do you see an error in my Math or Logic?



The 8 GB version is $200. The 16 GB is $300. So your example is about
$100 short but still a savings of over $100.

What is the $76 charge in your example?

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Old 03-19-2009, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:03:29 -0700 (PDT), "Read more than 240,000
Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mar 18, 4:31*pm, "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your
>iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
>> *http://is.gd/nUBb

>
>
>For most people it would be cheaper to activate an IPhone for 31 days
>and then pay the AT&T $175 ETF!
>
>$200 +$35 +$76 + $175 = $486 for 16GB iPhone
>
>Do you see an error in my Math or Logic?



After thinking about this some more, I wonder why one would get this
phone if he is going to cancel service which you would have to do to
cancel the contract. It really doesn't make much sense to pay this
much for a phone for less than a year anyway.

So, I don't see the logic either.

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Old 03-19-2009, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

Larry wrote:
> "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch"
> <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7a7d50c5-c643-4200-892d-f3847d7506b1
> @t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
>> http://is.gd/nUBb
>>

>
> Business much be much worse than I thought.....


No, they are trying to work through their inventory before the new model
comes out this summer.

Prediction is that the new model is going to address the remaining
issues that are keeping the iPhone from moving up in terms of market
share--including vitally important features to enterprise users.

$699! That's pretty funny.

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Old 03-19-2009, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

TennCup wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:03:29 -0700 (PDT), "Read more than 240,000
> Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 18, 4:31 pm, "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your
>> iPhone or iPod touch" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> New Choice - No contract required after March 26
>>> http://is.gd/nUBb

>>
>> For most people it would be cheaper to activate an IPhone for 31 days
>> and then pay the AT&T $175 ETF!
>>
>> $200 +$35 +$76 + $175 = $486 for 16GB iPhone
>>
>> Do you see an error in my Math or Logic?

>
>
> The 8 GB version is $200. The 16 GB is $300. So your example is about
> $100 short but still a savings of over $100.
>
> What is the $76 charge in your example?


I suspect that it's one month of service.

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Old 03-19-2009, 05:03 PM
Kevin K
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:15:03 UTC, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> "Read more than 240,000 Kindle books on your iPhone or iPod touch"
> <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7a7d50c5-c643-4200-892d-f3847d7506b1
> @t3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > New Choice - No contract required after March 26
> > http://is.gd/nUBb
> >

>
> Business much be much worse than I thought.....
>


This has been promised since the 3G was released last year. Finally,
it is made available.

I guess it could be useful if you were to break your existing phone,
such as washing it, and you weren't eligible for an upgrade. You can
buy a new one from a reputable source, rather than risk a bad
transaction on eBay.


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Old 03-20-2009, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > Business much be much worse than I thought.....

>
> No, they are trying to work through their inventory before the new model
> comes out this summer.


no SMS, apple / att do not maintain significant inventories of iphones.
apple is a "just in time" shop, so say 34,000 iphones were sold today,
that means 34,000 will be produced tomorrow in china, then those fly to
alaska tomorrow night, then arrive in stores saturday / sunday. repeat.

sure, collectively they keep around 10 days of inventory in the channel,
but they don't operate like old, rust belt companies, their supply chain
is one of the most advanced in the world and have turn rates higher than
most any electronics firm.

so they don't have to "work through inventory", the don't operate like
that, and haven't for about 11 years.

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Old 03-20-2009, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:49c2dd21$0$89399$815e3792@news.qwest.net:

> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Business much be much worse than I thought.....

>>
>> No, they are trying to work through their inventory before the new
>> model comes out this summer.

>
> no SMS, apple / att do not maintain significant inventories of
> iphones. apple is a "just in time" shop, so say 34,000 iphones were
> sold today, that means 34,000 will be produced tomorrow in china, then
> those fly to alaska tomorrow night, then arrive in stores saturday /
> sunday. repeat.
>
> sure, collectively they keep around 10 days of inventory in the
> channel, but they don't operate like old, rust belt companies, their
> supply chain is one of the most advanced in the world and have turn
> rates higher than most any electronics firm.
>
> so they don't have to "work through inventory", the don't operate like
> that, and haven't for about 11 years.


Retailers choking on huge supplies of unsold AppleTV prducts say hello, as
do the retailers in various countries around the world that are giving away
the iPhone due to massive stockpiles.


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Old 03-20-2009, 01:46 AM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:JRlwl.20814$YU2.14695
@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Prediction is that the new model is going to address the remaining
> issues that are keeping the iPhone from moving up in terms of market
> share--including vitally important features to enterprise users.
>
>


He's gonna make it boot Windows programs??

He'll open up the system to Enterprise IT departments to install their own
software and security on it?

Until this happens, it'll never be of any use to Enterprise....a picky
group of SECURITY people, to be sure.

Other things are missing....replaceable battery, memory card slot, etc.,
also enterprise solutions.

Many enterprises here are buying NETBOOKS by the hundreds!


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Old 03-20-2009, 03:08 AM
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On 2009-03-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> He'll open up the system to Enterprise IT departments to install their own
> software and security on it?


They already can, it's called the Enteprise iPhone Developer Program.

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Old 03-20-2009, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: AT&T Changing iPhone Terms March 26

On Mar 19, 9:46*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> ry, memory card slot, etc.,
> also enterprise solutions.
>
> Many enterprises here are buying NETBOOKS by the hundreds!


While others are buying iPhone OS devices by the MILLIONS... big
difference Larry.

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Old 03-20-2009, 03:56 AM
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Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
news:slrngs625i.khl.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net:

> On 2009-03-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> He'll open up the system to Enterprise IT departments to install
>> their own software and security on it?

>
> They already can, it's called the Enteprise iPhone Developer Program.
>


No, no....I think you misunderstand. IT will NEVER, repeat NEVER, let
Apple mother them as to what they can and cannot do. Apple will never be
allowed to see any real IT department software, either....


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Old 03-20-2009, 03:57 AM
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"Ki4je ( http://twitter.com/Alert_Me )" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b9b3a2b8-3281-42be-9dee-cc6264c90ba1@y13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 19, 9:46*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>> ry, memory card slot, etc.,
>> also enterprise solutions.
>>
>> Many enterprises here are buying NETBOOKS by the hundreds!

>
> While others are buying iPhone OS devices by the MILLIONS... big
> difference Larry.
>


Where did this come from, some blogger you quote, regularly?


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Old 03-20-2009, 03:58 AM
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"Ki4je ( http://twitter.com/Alert_Me )" <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us
all with the following in news:b9b3a2b8-3281-42be-9dee-cc6264c90ba1
@y13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 19, 9:46*pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>> ry, memory card slot, etc.,
>> also enterprise solutions.
>>
>> Many enterprises here are buying NETBOOKS by the hundreds!

>
> While others are buying iPhone OS devices by the MILLIONS... big
> difference Larry.
>


MILLIONS of enterprises are buying the iPhone?

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Old 03-20-2009, 06:35 AM
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Larry wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:JRlwl.20814$YU2.14695
> @nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> Prediction is that the new model is going to address the remaining
>> issues that are keeping the iPhone from moving up in terms of market
>> share--including vitally important features to enterprise users.
>>
>>

>
> He's gonna make it boot Windows programs??
>
> He'll open up the system to Enterprise IT departments to install their own
> software and security on it?
>
> Until this happens, it'll never be of any use to Enterprise....a picky
> group of SECURITY people, to be sure.
>
> Other things are missing....replaceable battery, memory card slot, etc.,
> also enterprise solutions.
>
> Many enterprises here are buying NETBOOKS by the hundreds!


Do you think Apple is going to permanently write off the Enterprise?
They'll be dragged, kicking and screaming perhaps, into producing an
iPhone that is suitable for the Enterprise. Things are changing at
Apple. The stubbornness will lessen with the changes in management.

But you're wrong about netbooks. It's not hundreds, it's millions, and
it's having a negative effect on sales of more expensive small laptops
like the UPCs.

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Old 03-20-2009, 07:31 PM
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On 2009-03-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> They already can, it's called the Enteprise iPhone Developer Program.

>
> No, no....I think you misunderstand. IT will NEVER, repeat NEVER, let
> Apple mother them as to what they can and cannot do.


I think *you* misunderstand. If you use the Enterprise developer
programme, you can distribute iPhone applications within your own
organisation without them being approved (or even seen) by Apple.

For more information see Chapter 5 of:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/...ment_Guide.pdf

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Old 03-25-2009, 12:44 AM
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AT&T

1.Rudest customer support in the business

2.Crawl up a tree backwards to tell you a lie.

3.Sorry, sorry, sorry networks.

4.Bill for services you didn't buy.

5.Constantly worry you with trying to sell you services you don't
want.

6.Crooked as a 50-gallon barrel of snakes.

7.True rat *******s of the industry.

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Old 03-25-2009, 05:33 PM
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On 3/24/09 7:44 PM, in article
5d8eb4ff-5e05-4fa7-b26a-81e8f63a9fb6...oglegroups.com, "jl"
<jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> AT&T
>
> 1.Rudest customer support in the business
>
> 2.Crawl up a tree backwards to tell you a lie.
>
> 3.Sorry, sorry, sorry networks.
>
> 4.Bill for services you didn't buy.
>
> 5.Constantly worry you with trying to sell you services you don't
> want.
>
> 6.Crooked as a 50-gallon barrel of snakes.
>
> 7.True rat *******s of the industry.

Com'on, tell us how you REALLY feel and don't hold back!


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