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Old 06-17-2009, 07:39 PM
There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T
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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-att-3gs_N.htm

NEW YORK - AT&T's wireless network is having a hard time keeping up
with the
Apple iPhone, a top wireless analyst says.
That's the reason AT&T (T) isn't offering multimedia messaging and
"tethering" options for the new $199 iPhone 3G S - lack of network
juice,
says Roger Entner, head of telecom research for Nielsen.

When the iPhone 3G S was unveiled last week, Apple (AAPL) said it
would
offer both those features. "Tethering" allows a wireless device to
serve as
a broadband modem to provide over-the-air support for laptops, PCs and
the
like. Multimedia messaging, or MMS, enables users to attach video
clips,
audio files, pictures, etc. to text messages.

But when the list of global carriers offering the features was
unveiled,
AT&T wasn't on it. AT&T is the exclusive U.S. distributor.

AT&T says it plans to offer MMS "by the end of the summer," but it has
so
far declined to say when tethering might become available. As of
Tuesday,
that was still the case. The 3G S goes on sale Friday.

"Tethering will be available at some point," AT&T spokesman Mark
Siegel told
USA TODAY.

Meantime, iPhone users are gobbling up AT&T's network capacity at a
record
clip.

According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
megabytes of
capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is 40 to 80 megabytes.

Entner says the high usage is a testament to the power and popularity
of the
iPhone. "People really love that device and are using it intensively."

And network demands are only going to increase as pricing on the
current
iPhone 3G drops to $99, he says.

Part of the problem is due to iPhone's engineering. The device
constantly
checks back with the AT&T network, he says, making adjustments as
necessary.
The iPhone's "chatty" nature is one reason it performs so well. But
the back
and forth also eats up a lot of network capacity.

AT&T has more than 7 million iPhone users, Entner estimates, more than
any
other carrier in the world.

As a result, he says, "No other wireless network, in the United States
or
elsewhere, is nearly as loaded" as AT&T's.

Later this summer, AT&T plans to start upgrading its wireless software
with
"HSPA" - short for high-speed packet access.

Once the upgrade is complete - by 2011, AT&T says - "3G S owners will
have a
significantly better experience" on the mobile Web, Entner says. (HSPA
isn't
compatible with the 3G iPhone; you'll need to upgrade your device to
take
advantage of it.)

Speed will be the most obvious change, Entner says. "It will be a lot
faster
- four to five times."

AT&T agrees the move to HSPA will have a lot of benefits for
consumers. "We
engineer the wireless network to stay ahead of demand," Siegel says.
"That's
why we'll start deploying HSPA later this year."

_

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Old 06-17-2009, 08:03 PM
There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T
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It is only going to get worse. After updating the 3G 2.12 to 3G 3.0
all I can say is "this is a whole new phone".

I actually sat reading and replying to email on the iPhone 3G 3.0 with
a fast computer and 24" screen and two fast laptops sitting near my
desk! It has become very easy to use with email when flipped
horizontally. It is fast!

The whole update is a mere 230.1 MB download which decompresses to
about 268 MB. It takes a little longer than ten minutes to update the
firmware using iTunes.

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Speaking of spare HD I just bought two 3.5 inch 1.5 TB Seagate
Barracudas with 32MB buffers and a transfer rate over eSata of 3GB/sec
for $119 each from MicroCenter. They come with a five year warrenty
and Acronis software to manage these drives.

They have a whole shipping bin full of these things. I bet they are
under $100 by July 4, 2009. A combo eSata II and USB 2.0 case is only
$29 with a boat load of cables and other goodies included. You can
always use these drives with a Mac laptop using USB2.0 at a pokey 450
MBs if you like watching paint dry. They mount for file transfer with
Ubuntu Linux too which is nice.

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Old 06-17-2009, 08:05 PM
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A good deal of nonsense:
* Background data transfer isn't a huge issue
* MMS messaging will probably eat more capacity than tethering
* AT&T already has HSPA deployed
* Even with the iPhone, AT&T has as much or more capacity per
subscriber as other comparable carriers.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access>
<http://hspa.gsmworld.com/networks>


On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT), "There's an app for that...on
the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
<f34cc897-39ab-4c3d-a234-db08affb422c@f19g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>:

>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-att-3gs_N.htm
>
>NEW YORK - AT&T's wireless network is having a hard time keeping up
>with the
>Apple iPhone, a top wireless analyst says.
>That's the reason AT&T (T) isn't offering multimedia messaging and
>"tethering" options for the new $199 iPhone 3G S - lack of network
>juice,
>says Roger Entner, head of telecom research for Nielsen.
>
>When the iPhone 3G S was unveiled last week, Apple (AAPL) said it
>would
>offer both those features. "Tethering" allows a wireless device to
>serve as
>a broadband modem to provide over-the-air support for laptops, PCs and
>the
>like. Multimedia messaging, or MMS, enables users to attach video
>clips,
>audio files, pictures, etc. to text messages.
>
>But when the list of global carriers offering the features was
>unveiled,
>AT&T wasn't on it. AT&T is the exclusive U.S. distributor.
>
>AT&T says it plans to offer MMS "by the end of the summer," but it has
>so
>far declined to say when tethering might become available. As of
>Tuesday,
>that was still the case. The 3G S goes on sale Friday.
>
>"Tethering will be available at some point," AT&T spokesman Mark
>Siegel told
>USA TODAY.
>
>Meantime, iPhone users are gobbling up AT&T's network capacity at a
>record
>clip.
>
>According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
>megabytes of
>capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is 40 to 80 megabytes.
>
>Entner says the high usage is a testament to the power and popularity
>of the
>iPhone. "People really love that device and are using it intensively."
>
>And network demands are only going to increase as pricing on the
>current
>iPhone 3G drops to $99, he says.
>
>Part of the problem is due to iPhone's engineering. The device
>constantly
>checks back with the AT&T network, he says, making adjustments as
>necessary.
>The iPhone's "chatty" nature is one reason it performs so well. But
>the back
>and forth also eats up a lot of network capacity.
>
>AT&T has more than 7 million iPhone users, Entner estimates, more than
>any
>other carrier in the world.
>
>As a result, he says, "No other wireless network, in the United States
>or
>elsewhere, is nearly as loaded" as AT&T's.
>
>Later this summer, AT&T plans to start upgrading its wireless software
>with
>"HSPA" - short for high-speed packet access.
>
>Once the upgrade is complete - by 2011, AT&T says - "3G S owners will
>have a
>significantly better experience" on the mobile Web, Entner says. (HSPA
>isn't
>compatible with the 3G iPhone; you'll need to upgrade your device to
>take
>advantage of it.)
>
>Speed will be the most obvious change, Entner says. "It will be a lot
>faster
>- four to five times."
>
>AT&T agrees the move to HSPA will have a lot of benefits for
>consumers. "We
>engineer the wireless network to stay ahead of demand," Siegel says.
>"That's
>why we'll start deploying HSPA later this year."
>
>_


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Old 06-17-2009, 10:35 PM
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"There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote in news:f34cc897-39ab-4c3d-a234-
db08affb422c@f19g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
> megabytes of
> capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is 40 to 80 megabytes.
>


Alltel says I used 26.8GB last month on my tethered Z6m through 3 Nokia
N800 Linux tablets and two tethered netbooks.

400MB is a pittance, but stands to reason as iPhoney won't stream, play TV
videos, stream webcam video, download/decode stuff....



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Old 06-17-2009, 10:38 PM
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"There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" wrote:

> Later this summer, AT&T plans to start upgrading its wireless software
> with
> "HSPA" - short for high-speed packet access.
>
> Once the upgrade is complete - by 2011, AT&T says - "3G S owners will
> have a
> significantly better experience" on the mobile Web, Entner says. (HSPA
> isn't
> compatible with the 3G iPhone; you'll need to upgrade your device to
> take
> advantage of it.)


HSDPA is available with iPhone 3G and 3G S in Germany yet (3,6 Mbps vs.
7,2 Mbps). MMS will be available tomorrow and for tethering T-Mobile
Germany is planning a separate data plan. But with the first iPhone-
plans using multi-SIMs was allowed (up to three SIMs for using in
differant devices including data-cards/sticks) after a while, but
they discontinued this for new plans in february.

Cheers Dirk

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Old 06-17-2009, 10:38 PM
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"There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote in news:c2f86333-18e9-4b71-a6e9-db764d738b73
@x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:

> They mount for file transfer with
> Ubuntu Linux too which is nice.
>


Oh oh...this is gonna be trouble.

You were right, Vic! I got TWO 3G 16GB iPhoneys!



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Old 06-17-2009, 11:02 PM
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT), "There's an app for
that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

>NEW YORK - AT&T's wireless network is having a hard time keeping up
>with the Apple iPhone, a top wireless analyst says.

<snip>

I'm doing my part. I have zero interest in the iPhone.

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Old 06-17-2009, 11:15 PM
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:38:31 +0200, Dirk Bieber
<dirk.bieber@batrabbit.eu> wrote in <4A397066.FA73C9A1@batrabbit.eu>:

>"There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" wrote:
>
>> Later this summer, AT&T plans to start upgrading its wireless software
>> with
>> "HSPA" - short for high-speed packet access.
>>
>> Once the upgrade is complete - by 2011, AT&T says - "3G S owners will
>> have a
>> significantly better experience" on the mobile Web, Entner says. (HSPA
>> isn't
>> compatible with the 3G iPhone; you'll need to upgrade your device to
>> take
>> advantage of it.)

>
>HSDPA is available with iPhone 3G and 3G S in Germany yet (3,6 Mbps vs.
>7,2 Mbps). MMS will be available tomorrow and for tethering T-Mobile
>Germany is planning a separate data plan. ...


AT&T already supports HSPA. <http://hspa.gsmworld.com/networks>

T-Mobile USA likewise, also tethering.

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Old 06-18-2009, 03:37 AM
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John Navas wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:38:31 +0200, Dirk Bieber
> <dirk.bieber@batrabbit.eu> wrote in <4A397066.FA73C9A1@batrabbit.eu>:


[MMS/HSPA and tethering with AT&T]
> >HSDPA is available with iPhone 3G and 3G S in Germany yet (3,6 Mbps vs.
> >7,2 Mbps). MMS will be available tomorrow and for tethering T-Mobile
> >Germany is planning a separate data plan. ...

>
> AT&T already supports HSPA. <http://hspa.gsmworld.com/networks>
>
> T-Mobile USA likewise, also tethering.


But T-Mobile US doesn't sell iPhones. I spoke about the iPhone where
AT&T was saying "HSPA isn't compatible with the 3G iPhone; you'll need
to upgrade your device to take advantage of it." and "Once the upgrade
is
complete - by 2011, AT&T says - "3G S owners will have a significantly
better experience"".

What about that? Every iPhone 3G(S) supports HSDPA.

Tethering with an iPhone is possible when an operator supports it.

Unlike many other phones provided by operators (even AT&T) that support
tethering since a long time.

Cheers Dirk

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Old 06-18-2009, 04:31 AM
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:37:50 +0200, Dirk Bieber
<dirk.bieber@batrabbit.eu> wrote in <4A39B68E.80EEE82E@batrabbit.eu>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:38:31 +0200, Dirk Bieber
>> <dirk.bieber@batrabbit.eu> wrote in <4A397066.FA73C9A1@batrabbit.eu>:

>
>[MMS/HSPA and tethering with AT&T]
>> >HSDPA is available with iPhone 3G and 3G S in Germany yet (3,6 Mbps vs.
>> >7,2 Mbps). MMS will be available tomorrow and for tethering T-Mobile
>> >Germany is planning a separate data plan. ...

>>
>> AT&T already supports HSPA. <http://hspa.gsmworld.com/networks>
>>
>> T-Mobile USA likewise, also tethering.

>
>But T-Mobile US doesn't sell iPhones.


True, which is unfortunate if you're an iPhone fan, but I'm not.

>Tethering with an iPhone is possible when an operator supports it.


That's a bit like saying your can gets 100 MPG when coasting downhill.

The simple fact is that tethering with the iPhone is not possible in the
USA for the foreseeable future.

Meanwhile I'm happily tethering with my SE TM506 on T-Mobile.

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Old 06-18-2009, 05:01 AM
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At 17 Jun 2009 22:35:48 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
> > megabytes of
> > capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is 40 to 80 megabytes.
> >

>
> Alltel says I used 26.8GB last month on my tethered Z6m through 3 Nokia
> N800 Linux tablets and two tethered netbooks.



Yeah, well, we already knew you weren't "average," Larry...


> 400MB is a pittance, but stands to reason as iPhoney won't stream, play

TV
> videos, stream webcam video, download/decode stuff....



My wife only uses about 200MB/month on her iPhone- I wonder what she's
doing wrong...



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Old 06-18-2009, 05:53 AM
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:01:45 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in <XTj_l.7746$7C4.4538@newsfe04.iad>:

>At 17 Jun 2009 22:35:48 +0000 Larry wrote:
>
>> > According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
>> > megabytes of
>> > capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is 40 to 80 megabytes.

>>
>> Alltel says I used 26.8GB last month on my tethered Z6m through 3 Nokia
>> N800 Linux tablets and two tethered netbooks.

>
>Yeah, well, we already knew you weren't "average," Larry...
>
>> 400MB is a pittance, but stands to reason as iPhoney won't stream, play TV
>> videos, stream webcam video, download/decode stuff....

>
>My wife only uses about 200MB/month on her iPhone- I wonder what she's
>doing wrong...


She's probably not filesharing.

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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C2DBD2E5CD4noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> "There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T"

<vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote in news:f34cc897-39ab-4c3d-a234-
> db08affb422c@f19g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > According to Entner, the average iPhone user eats up around 400
> > megabytes of capacity each month. Average smartphone usage is
> > 40 to 80 megabytes.

>
> Alltel says I used 26.8GB last month on my tethered Z6m through 3 Nokia
> N800 Linux tablets and two tethered netbooks.
>
> 400MB is a pittance, but stands to reason as iPhoney won't stream, play TV
> videos, stream webcam video, download/decode stuff....


You should really learn to read. It says iPhone users average 400MB, while
the more hopeless and/or difficult smartphones only average 40MB to 80MB -
one-tenth of the iPhone usage. Nobody cares about you and your tablet - it's
NOT a mobile phone, so is irrelevant.



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Old 06-18-2009, 02:08 PM
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On 6/17/09 5:38 PM, in article Xns9C2DBDB4C4AC2noonehomecom@74.209.131.13,
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote:

> "There's an app for that...on the $99 iPhone @ AT&T" <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote in news:c2f86333-18e9-4b71-a6e9-db764d738b73
> @x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> They mount for file transfer with
>> Ubuntu Linux too which is nice.
>>

>
> Oh oh...this is gonna be trouble.
>
> You were right, Vic! I got TWO 3G 16GB iPhoneys!
>
>

Was that with the short order of flapjacks, Lar?


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Old 06-18-2009, 09:00 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in news:XTj_l.7746$7C4.4538
@newsfe04.iad:

> My wife only uses about 200MB/month on her iPhone- I wonder what she's
> doing wrong...
>
>


Nothing, really. With very few apps that actually use bandwidth, I don't
see how any of them can get anywhere near 5GB/mo. No SMS, streaming,
constantly refreshing webpages pushing, Flash streaming, Realvideo
streaming....Those eat the gigabytes.



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Old 06-18-2009, 09:06 PM
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"Your Name" <your.name@isp.com> wrote in news:h1cp6a$j44$1@lust.ihug.co.nz:

> Nobody cares about you and your tablet - it's
> NOT a mobile phone, so is irrelevant.
>
>


I was driving down interstate 26 at 70 mph talking to a crazy friend in
Osaka, Japan for about 20 miles on Skype using the Samsung NC10 netbook
tethered over USB to my Alltel Z6m EVDO. I had the netbook camera pointed
out the front window so my Japanese friend could see me driving on the
"wrong side of the road", from his point of view....in colour, of course.

We WERE talking just like on the phone, but over video VoIP. Doesn't that
count as a "phone" or do you have to be a contract slave on sellphone for
it to count??....

Sure looked like a mobile phone in Osaka! I guess it looked more like a
mobile TV station, though, maybe...(c;]

iPhones will have streaming video........someday..........maybe.....(sigh)
My iPhones don't either....no video at all...sucks.


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Old 06-18-2009, 09:56 PM
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Larry <noone@home.com> writes:

> Nothing, really. With very few apps that actually use bandwidth, I don't
> see how any of them can get anywhere near 5GB/mo. No SMS, streaming,
> constantly refreshing webpages pushing, Flash streaming, Realvideo
> streaming....Those eat the gigabytes.


Maps, YouTube, webradio, podcasts... You *can* eat bandwidth on the
iPhone, if you want. Really.

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Old 06-19-2009, 12:14 AM
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:56:34 +0200, Jochem Huhmann <joh@gmx.net> wrote
in <m2k539xl2l.fsf@revier.com>:

>Larry <noone@home.com> writes:
>
>> Nothing, really. With very few apps that actually use bandwidth, I don't
>> see how any of them can get anywhere near 5GB/mo. No SMS, streaming,
>> constantly refreshing webpages pushing, Flash streaming, Realvideo
>> streaming....Those eat the gigabytes.

>
>Maps, YouTube, webradio, podcasts... You *can* eat bandwidth on the
>iPhone, if you want. Really.


Likewise on much more modest phones, which can run those same apps.

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Old 06-26-2009, 01:49 AM
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John Navas wrote:

> >[MMS/HSPA and tethering with AT&T]
> >> >HSDPA is available with iPhone 3G and 3G S in Germany yet (3,6 Mbps vs.
> >> >7,2 Mbps). MMS will be available tomorrow and for tethering T-Mobile
> >> >Germany is planning a separate data plan. ...
> >>
> >> AT&T already supports HSPA. <http://hspa.gsmworld.com/networks>
> >>
> >> T-Mobile USA likewise, also tethering.

> >
> >But T-Mobile US doesn't sell iPhones.

>
> True, which is unfortunate if you're an iPhone fan, but I'm not.


I don't own an iPhone, I wanted to show that different operators
support different options. And when AT&T supports HSPA, that will
work with iPhone 3GS, against their statement.

> >Tethering with an iPhone is possible when an operator supports it.

>
> That's a bit like saying your can gets 100 MPG when coasting downhill.
>
> The simple fact is that tethering with the iPhone is not possible in the
> USA for the foreseeable future.


Except an iPhone with jail-break, not yet possible with 3G S buth the
others. Or an old iPhone out of contract.

> Meanwhile I'm happily tethering with my SE TM506 on T-Mobile.


You could do that with AT&T, too. ;-)

Cheers Dirk

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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:49:29 +0200, Dirk Bieber
<dirk.bieber@batrabbit.eu> wrote in <4A442929.733B6F33@batrabbit.eu>:

>John Navas wrote:


>> Meanwhile I'm happily tethering with my SE TM506 on T-Mobile.

>
>You could do that with AT&T, too. ;-)


I have. I've even published web pages on how to do it.

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why do fans keep making excuses for it?

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