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Old 05-09-2008, 09:47 PM
bobbymoose2008@gmail.com
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Default using a Pantech PC-5740 as a modem ?

Anyone setup an aircard PC5740 as a modem for DIAL IN connections? I
can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. I
want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. I've tried
hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.
Sorry, I hope this is the appropriate place to post this.
Thanks!
BM

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Old 05-10-2008, 01:37 AM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone setup an aircard PC5740 as a modem for DIAL IN connections? I
> can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. I
> want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
> Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. I've tried
> hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
> I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.


The problem is a call to the telephone number associated
with the aircard's data account will simply ring to a non-existent
termination.

So its not going to even work the way you want it to. Since you
already have an internet connection, would a remote desktop
approach work for you?


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Old 05-10-2008, 03:50 PM
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On May 9, 9:37*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Anyone setup an aircardPC5740as a modem for DIAL IN connections? *I
> > can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. *I
> > want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
> > Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. *I've tried
> > hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
> > I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.

>
> The problem is a call to the telephone number associated
> with the aircard's data account will simply ring to a non-existent
> termination.
>
> So its not going to even work the way you want it to. Since you
> already have an internet connection, would a remote desktop
> approach work for you?


Thanks for the reply DTC
Actually, Remote Desktop is exactly what I would like to use. Problem
is I don't have an internet connection at the remote site.
What I want to do is place a computer in a location where there is no
other means of internet connection other than the aircard. I can
connect to the internet in that location with my existing PC5740.
Since I already have this card and dataplan I was hoping there was a
way to use it. I can not simply leave it connected because the
connection will eventually time out.
I know I can use a device such as the Airlink's Raven-X which is
basically always on and connected but I was hoping to use what I
already have.
Interestingly, if I dial my aircard's number while it is powered off
the call immediately rolls over to voicemail. If the card is on (not
connected just powered on) the number will ring about 6 times then it
rolls over to voicemail. I was looking for a software solution to
tell the aircard to 'pick-up' an incoming call much like an analog
modem does.

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Old 05-10-2008, 04:01 PM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:

> On May 9, 9:37*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Anyone setup an aircardPC5740as a modem for DIAL IN connections? *I
>>> can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. *I
>>> want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
>>> Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. *I've tried
>>> hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
>>> I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.

>>
>> The problem is a call to the telephone number associated
>> with the aircard's data account will simply ring to a non-existent
>> termination.
>>
>> So its not going to even work the way you want it to. Since you
>> already have an internet connection, would a remote desktop
>> approach work for you?

>
> Thanks for the reply DTC
> Actually, Remote Desktop is exactly what I would like to use. Problem
> is I don't have an internet connection at the remote site.
> What I want to do is place a computer in a location where there is no
> other means of internet connection other than the aircard. I can
> connect to the internet in that location with my existing PC5740.
> Since I already have this card and dataplan I was hoping there was a
> way to use it. I can not simply leave it connected because the
> connection will eventually time out.
> I know I can use a device such as the Airlink's Raven-X which is
> basically always on and connected but I was hoping to use what I
> already have.
> Interestingly, if I dial my aircard's number while it is powered off
> the call immediately rolls over to voicemail. If the card is on (not
> connected just powered on) the number will ring about 6 times then it
> rolls over to voicemail. I was looking for a software solution to
> tell the aircard to 'pick-up' an incoming call much like an analog
> modem does.


As an alternative, could you set the scheduler on the remote PC to dial
up the Internet connection at predetermined times?

--
Dutch

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Old 05-13-2008, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: using a Pantech PC-5740 as a modem ?

On May 10, 12:01*pm, Dutch <bur...@blackholespam.net> wrote:
> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On May 9, 9:37*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> >> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Anyone setup an aircardPC5740as a modem for DIAL IN connections? *I
> >>> can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. *I
> >>> want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
> >>> Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. *I've tried
> >>> hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
> >>> I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.

>
> >> The problem is a call to the telephone number associated
> >> with the aircard's data account will simply ring to a non-existent
> >> termination.

>
> >> So its not going to even work the way you want it to. Since you
> >> already have an internet connection, would a remote desktop
> >> approach work for you?

>
> > Thanks for the reply DTC
> > Actually, Remote Desktop is exactly what I would like to use. *Problem
> > is I don't have an internet connection at the remote site.
> > What I want to do is place a computer in a location where there is no
> > other means of internet connection other than the aircard. I can
> > connect to the internet in that location with my existingPC5740.
> > Since I already have this card and dataplan I was hoping there was a
> > way to use it. *I can not simply leave it connected because the
> > connection will eventually time out.
> > I know I can use a device such as the Airlink's Raven-X which is
> > basically always on and connected but I was hoping to use what I
> > already have.
> > Interestingly, if I dial my aircard's number while it is powered off
> > the call immediately rolls over to voicemail. *If the card is on (not
> > connected just powered on) the number will ring about 6 times then it
> > rolls over to voicemail. *I was looking for a software solution to
> > tell the aircard to 'pick-up' an incoming call much like an analog
> > modem does.

>
> As an alternative, could you set the scheduler on the remote PC to dial
> up the Internet connection at predetermined times?
>
> --
> Dutch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Dutch, that is a pretty clever idea. I'm not sure I would know what
IP address the device would have. I wouldn't think it would always be
the same but I've never actually checked.
I could probably write a script to capture my current IP and have it
email me with this info when it starts up.
This isn't quite as convient as being able to just call the device but
it theoretically should work.
Thanks!

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Old 05-13-2008, 09:39 PM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:

> On May 10, 12:01*pm, Dutch <bur...@blackholespam.net> wrote:
>> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On May 9, 9:37*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>>> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Anyone setup an aircardPC5740as a modem for DIAL IN connections? *I
>>>>> can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. *I
>>>>> want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
>>>>> Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. *I've tried
>>>>> hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
>>>>> I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.

>>
>>>> The problem is a call to the telephone number associated
>>>> with the aircard's data account will simply ring to a non-existent
>>>> termination.

>>
>>>> So its not going to even work the way you want it to. Since you
>>>> already have an internet connection, would a remote desktop
>>>> approach work for you?

>>
>>> Thanks for the reply DTC
>>> Actually, Remote Desktop is exactly what I would like to use. *Problem
>>> is I don't have an internet connection at the remote site.
>>> What I want to do is place a computer in a location where there is no
>>> other means of internet connection other than the aircard. I can
>>> connect to the internet in that location with my existingPC5740.
>>> Since I already have this card and dataplan I was hoping there was a
>>> way to use it. *I can not simply leave it connected because the
>>> connection will eventually time out.
>>> I know I can use a device such as the Airlink's Raven-X which is
>>> basically always on and connected but I was hoping to use what I
>>> already have.
>>> Interestingly, if I dial my aircard's number while it is powered off
>>> the call immediately rolls over to voicemail. *If the card is on (not
>>> connected just powered on) the number will ring about 6 times then it
>>> rolls over to voicemail. *I was looking for a software solution to
>>> tell the aircard to 'pick-up' an incoming call much like an analog
>>> modem does.

>>
>> As an alternative, could you set the scheduler on the remote PC to dial
>> up the Internet connection at predetermined times?

>
> Dutch, that is a pretty clever idea. I'm not sure I would know what
> IP address the device would have. I wouldn't think it would always be
> the same but I've never actually checked.
> I could probably write a script to capture my current IP and have it
> email me with this info when it starts up.
> This isn't quite as convient as being able to just call the device but
> it theoretically should work.
> Thanks!


Yep, I know it wouldn't be quite as convenient, but it does get around
the dial-up issue.

You could use one of the free dynamic DNS services to handle the IP
problem:

http://www.no-ip.com/services/manage...namic_dns.html

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Old 05-13-2008, 11:16 PM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone setup an aircard PC5740 as a modem for DIAL IN connections? I
> can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. I
> want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
> Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. I've tried
> hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
> I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.


Just wondering, do you *need* to have a dial up connection? I'm
asking that as we remotely maintain some systems via dial up
modem and have some work arounds.

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:05 AM
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On May 13, 7:16 pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Anyone setup an aircard PC5740 as a modem for DIAL IN connections? I
> > can get it to dial out to any phone number I want...no problem. I
> > want to be able to call the aircard and have it pickup like a modem.
> > Of course the aircard has it's own phone number. I've tried
> > hyperterminal under WindowsXP and no luck.
> > I want to put a PC at a remote location and dial into it.

>
> Just wondering, do you *need* to have a dial up connection? I'm
> asking that as we remotely maintain some systems via dial up
> modem and have some work arounds.


No. I do not need dial up. I was trying to use my existing aircard
that I have and I was thinking the only way to access it was to dial
into it. As it turns out that doesn't work...hence my original post.
I am trying to avoid purchasing different equipment. I have found a
device that I think will for perfectly but if I can use what I have
I'd prefer not to spend any money.
I don't currently have a phone line at the remote site either.

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:38 AM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:
> No. I do not need dial up. I was trying to use my existing aircard
> that I have and I was thinking the only way to access it was to dial
> into it. As it turns out that doesn't work...hence my original post.


OK, now I follow you. What I have down with my Sprint card is let
my laptop use a virtual static IP service. I would connect to
for example)
http://mylittlelaptopwayoutthere.a_v...dy_service.com.

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:40 PM
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On May 14, 8:38*pm, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> bobbymoose2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > No. *I do not need dial up. *I was trying to use my existing aircard
> > that I have and I was thinking the only way to access it was to dial
> > into it. *As it turns out that doesn't work...hence my original post.

>
> OK, now I follow you. What I have down with mySprintcard is let
> my laptop use a virtual static IP service. I would connect to
> for example)http://mylittlelaptopwayoutthere.a_v...dy_service.com..


I see. If I understand correctly then you assign the static ip to your
laptop that you receive from the static IP service. When you connect
(via RDP for example) to that IP from a different computer then your
Sprintcard will "pick up" and volia you are connected to your remote
laptop.

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Old 05-21-2008, 07:30 AM
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bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:
> I see. If I understand correctly then you assign the static ip to your
> laptop that you receive from the static IP service. When you connect
> (via RDP for example) to that IP from a different computer then your
> Sprintcard will "pick up" and volia you are connected to your remote
> laptop.


No.
* My remote laptop has a Sprint card.
* Sprint assigns me a dynamic IP address for the connection.
* I run a virtual IP client that looks up my currently assigned dynamic
IP and transmits that to the virtual IP service.
* The virtual IP service associates mylittlelaptopwayoutthere
with the IP address the client sent to it.
* I browse over to
http://mylittlelaptopwayoutthere.a_v...dy_service.com
and I can get into my remote laptop.

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Old 05-23-2008, 02:30 AM
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On 2008-05-21, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> bobbymoose2008@gmail.com wrote:
>> I see. If I understand correctly then you assign the static ip to your
>> laptop that you receive from the static IP service. When you connect
>> (via RDP for example) to that IP from a different computer then your
>> Sprintcard will "pick up" and volia you are connected to your remote
>> laptop.

>
> No.
> * My remote laptop has a Sprint card.
> * Sprint assigns me a dynamic IP address for the connection.
> * I run a virtual IP client that looks up my currently assigned dynamic
> IP and transmits that to the virtual IP service.
> * The virtual IP service associates mylittlelaptopwayoutthere
> with the IP address the client sent to it.
> * I browse over to
> http://mylittlelaptopwayoutthere.a_v...dy_service.com
> and I can get into my remote laptop.


What is being described is dynamic DNS, you keep a domain name
updated with the current IP address of the device.

I think

http://www.dyndns.com

will provide this service for free. There are probably others.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 05-23-2008, 03:46 AM
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Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2008-05-21, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>> * The virtual IP service associates mylittlelaptopwayoutthere
>> with the IP address the client sent to it.


> What is being described is dynamic DNS, you keep a domain name
> updated with the current IP address of the device.


That's another way calling it. It sometimes easier to describe
it in a logical manner as a virtual static IP.

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Old 05-23-2008, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: using a Pantech PC-5740 as a modem ?

A follow up on this.

Sprint is the only carrier that lets you look back into a device
connected. So the virtual IP idea won't work on Cingular/AT&T.

Still waiting on my letter from Sprint telling me of the 5GB/month cap.

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Old 05-24-2008, 01:41 PM
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Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in
news:va9f34lhcslababoeg8oa4sjupgjpq0bcf@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:45:39 -0500, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx>
> wrote:
>
>>Still waiting on my letter from Sprint telling me of the 5GB/month cap.

>
> Internally, we've seen that announcement so I would expect it to show
> up in a new AUP/TOS 'soon'.
>


My condolences to the customers over their new OUTRAGEOUS RATE INCREASE.


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Old 05-24-2008, 06:31 PM
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Larry wrote:
> My condolences to the customers over their new OUTRAGEOUS RATE INCREASE.


Why that?

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Old 05-24-2008, 11:44 PM
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DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:3aZZj.1196$uE5.1117
@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com:

> Larry wrote:
>> My condolences to the customers over their new OUTRAGEOUS RATE INCREASE.

>
> Why that?
>


LESS product (5GB/mo limit) for same money!

Same as a price increase. If they're going to take away something from a
product, they could at LEAST sell it for LESS.....because it's LESS
product!

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Old 05-25-2008, 12:19 AM
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Larry wrote:
> LESS product (5GB/mo limit) for same money!
>
> Same as a price increase. If they're going to take away something from a
> product, they could at LEAST sell it for LESS.....because it's LESS
> product!


Pretty much a moot point. It will only affect 10% of the users that
likely shouldn't be using it like that in the first place. So no real
need for condolences.

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Old 05-25-2008, 08:36 PM
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"DTC" <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
news:vg2_j.330$89.60@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Larry wrote:
>> LESS product (5GB/mo limit) for same money!
>>
>> Same as a price increase. If they're going to take away something from a
>> product, they could at LEAST sell it for LESS.....because it's LESS
>> product!

>
> Pretty much a moot point. It will only affect 10% of the users that
> likely shouldn't be using it like that in the first place. So no real
> need for condolences.


You mean like the person in the corporate Sprint Store who said, yeah, rout
the sprint card and use it on your computers at home?


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