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Old 09-26-2011, 06:28 PM
Cameo
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Default AirTouch is still alive?

I thought AirTouch was the old name of Verizon and the brand ended in
2000, yet I noticed this news today:

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8909

Anyone knows more about it?


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Old 09-26-2011, 06:28 PM
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In article <j5qg2m$57d$1@dont-email.me>, Cameo says...
>
> I thought AirTouch was the old name of Verizon and the brand ended in
> 2000, yet I noticed this news today:
>
> http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8909
>
> Anyone knows more about it?


I think it's a different AirTouch. Originally, it looked like this:

Verizon = Bell Atlantic + GTE.

Verizon Wireless = Bell Atlantic Mobility Services + GTE Wireless +
Vodafone AirTouch + part of PrimeCo Cellular. (It wasn't just a name
change, it was a merger.)

As far as I know, AirTouch Cellular - which, at that point, was owned by
British telecomm giant Vodafone - ceased to exist. Vodafone is the
minority partner in VZW; they own 45%, Verizon owns 55%.

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Old 09-26-2011, 06:35 PM
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In article <MPG.28ea642f78383cef98983d@news.justthe.net>, Steve Sobol
says...

> As far as I know, AirTouch Cellular - which, at that point, was owned

by
> British telecomm giant Vodafone - ceased to exist. Vodafone is the
> minority partner in VZW; they own 45%, Verizon owns 55%.


Ah. DEFINITELY a different AirTouch:

http://www.lightsquared.com/press-ro.../lightsquared-
signs-multi-year-wholesale-agreement-with-airtouch-communications/

or

http://bit.ly/mPlfLk

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LightSquared?, a wholesale carrier building a nationwide wireless
broadband network that will create consumer choice and drive industry
innovation, has signed a wholesale agreement with AirTouch®
Communications (OTCBB: ATCH), which develops telecommunications products
that can converge various services including voice, data, video and even
traditional landline.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:49 AM
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On 9/26/2011 11:35 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:

> Ah. DEFINITELY a different AirTouch:
>
> http://www.lightsquared.com/press-ro.../lightsquared-
> signs-multi-year-wholesale-agreement-with-airtouch-communications/
>
> or
>
> http://bit.ly/mPlfLk


Can just anybody pick up an old, no longer used brand name in the
same industry? If so, someone could start a new airline and call it
PanAm, no? I think such practices mislead the public.

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Old 09-27-2011, 04:53 AM
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In article <j5rde3$t6e$1@dont-email.me>, Cameo says...
>
> On 9/26/2011 11:35 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>
> > Ah. DEFINITELY a different AirTouch:
> >
> > http://www.lightsquared.com/press-ro.../lightsquared-
> > signs-multi-year-wholesale-agreement-with-airtouch-communications/
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://bit.ly/mPlfLk

>
> Can just anybody pick up an old, no longer used brand name in the
> same industry? If so, someone could start a new airline and call it
> PanAm, no? I think such practices mislead the public.


Not if the name is trademarked. If it isn't trademarked, it's fair game.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:13 PM
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On 9/26/2011 9:53 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article<j5rde3$t6e$1@dont-email.me>, Cameo says...
>>
>> On 9/26/2011 11:35 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>
>>> Ah. DEFINITELY a different AirTouch:
>>>
>>> http://www.lightsquared.com/press-ro.../lightsquared-
>>> signs-multi-year-wholesale-agreement-with-airtouch-communications/
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/mPlfLk

>>
>> Can just anybody pick up an old, no longer used brand name in the
>> same industry? If so, someone could start a new airline and call it
>> PanAm, no? I think such practices mislead the public.

>
> Not if the name is trademarked. If it isn't trademarked, it's fair game.
>


As stated in their press release: "Upon learning that the AirTouch
trademark was available, management decided that this mark better
communicated its product and service message ..."

That answers that.

From my reading of some 8-K's and other filings through pinksheets.com,
it used to be Waxess Holdings and International Vine. In other words, it
used to be a wine company. It's one of those little scammy OTC traded
companies that puts up a business plan that won't be executed and then
changes plans on a dime.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:20 PM
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Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I thought AirTouch was the old name of Verizon and the brand ended
> in 2000, yet I noticed this news today:
>
> http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8909
>
> Anyone knows more about it?


http://www.airtouchinc.com/default/index.html



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Old 09-27-2011, 04:31 PM
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Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I thought AirTouch was the old name of Verizon and the brand ended
> in 2000, yet I noticed this news today:
>
> http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=8909
>
> Anyone knows more about it?


http://www.airtouchinc.com/default/index.html



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Old 09-27-2011, 07:05 PM
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On 9/27/2011 8:13 AM, Travis James wrote:

> As stated in their press release: "Upon learning that the AirTouch
> trademark was available, management decided that this mark better
> communicated its product and service message ..."
>
> That answers that.


Thanks. I missed that.

> From my reading of some 8-K's and other filings through pinksheets.com,
> it used to be Waxess Holdings and International Vine. In other words, it
> used to be a wine company. It's one of those little scammy OTC traded
> companies that puts up a business plan that won't be executed and then
> changes plans on a dime.


And confusing the public with that iconic brand name would fit that
purpose quite well.


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Old 10-04-2011, 12:57 PM
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In news:MPG.28ea642f78383cef98983d@news.justthe.net Steve Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> As far as I know, AirTouch Cellular - which, at that point, was owned
> by British telecomm giant Vodafone - ceased to exist. Vodafone is the
> minority partner in VZW; they own 45%, Verizon owns 55%.


US West's "New Vector" division offered wireless service under the name
AirTouch back in the mid 90s (my phone number was 612-AIR-Txxx). That
later changed to Verizon.

Of course, US West turned into Qwest, now consumed by CenturyLink.

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Old 10-04-2011, 11:15 PM
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On 04 Oct 2011 12:57:46 GMT, Bert Hyman wrote:
> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, AirTouch Cellular - which, at that point, was owned
>> by British telecomm giant Vodafone - ceased to exist. Vodafone is the
>> minority partner in VZW; they own 45%, Verizon owns 55%.

>
> US West's "New Vector" division offered wireless service under the name
> AirTouch back in the mid 90s (my phone number was 612-AIR-Txxx). That
> later changed to Verizon.
>
> Of course, US West turned into Qwest, now consumed by CenturyLink.


US West turned into _Crap_ -- *then* it turned into Qwest.

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Old 10-05-2011, 03:09 AM
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Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> wrote:

> US West turned into _Crap_ -- *then* it turned into Qwest.


Mountain Bell was _Crap_, then it turned into US West which was _Crap_,
then it turned into Qwest which was _Crap_ and now it's Century Link
which is _Crap_.


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