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Old 12-04-2010, 01:52 AM
Steve Sobol
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Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.

Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?

I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...

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Old 12-04-2010, 02:16 AM
Richard B. Gilbert
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On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>
> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>
> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>


Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
all is said and done it's still just a phone.


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Old 12-04-2010, 02:19 AM
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Steve Sobol wrote on [Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:52:12 -0800]:
> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>
> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?


should be 2.2

> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...


The Samsung phones look good.

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Old 12-04-2010, 02:21 AM
Justin
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>
>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>
>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>

>
> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
> all is said and done it's still just a phone.


No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant message
twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.

The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.

try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.

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Old 12-04-2010, 02:58 AM
Richard B. Gilbert
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On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
>> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>>
>>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>
>>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>>

>>
>> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
>> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
>> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
>> all is said and done it's still just a phone.

>
> No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant message
> twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.
>
> The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.
>
> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
> has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.


Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
is a MUCH better fit to my hands.

When I'm at the doctor's office, he has my full attention! Many doctors
request that you turn off your cell phone when you enter the examining
room and some request that you turn it off in the waiting room as well.


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Old 12-04-2010, 04:00 AM
Justin
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:58:23 -0500]:
> On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
>>> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>
>>>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
>>> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
>>> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
>>> all is said and done it's still just a phone.

>>
>> No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant message
>> twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.
>>
>> The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.
>>
>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
>> has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.

>
> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.


Most smart phones has a qwerty keyboard. Some have physical and some have
onscreen. Calling a physical keyboard a qwerty keyboard is stupid, moronic
and plain wrong. Quite a few android phones have physical keyboards, some
slide out, there's one from Motorola that is almost identical to a blackberry.


> When I'm at the doctor's office, he has my full attention! Many doctors
> request that you turn off your cell phone when you enter the examining
> room and some request that you turn it off in the waiting room as well.


So, the 30 minutes you wait between arriving on time and when you get called
into the exam room is filled with 5 year old nat geos?

I key in my next chiropractor appt. as the receptionist is running my
payment method, updates my google calendar immediately and sets up auto
reminders.


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Old 12-04-2010, 04:13 AM
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On 12/3/10 9:00 PM, Justin wrote:
>
> Most smart phones has a qwerty keyboard. Some have physical and some have
> onscreen. Calling a physical keyboard a qwerty keyboard is stupid, moronic
> and plain wrong. Quite a few android phones have physical keyboards, some
> slide out, there's one from Motorola that is almost identical to a blackberry.
>


Being frugal, I've delayed moving to a smartphone and rely on my iPod
Touch for similar capabilities (along with a cheapo T-Mobile prepaid).

However, I recently set my wife up with a smartphone when her texting
volume increased. It's the Samsung Intercept on Virgin Mobile for $25
bucks a month (that's it, no extra taxes). It's a great value if you
don't need quite the edgiest smartphone and expensive plan. It includes
300 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited 3G.

Even this not quite cutting edge phone and plan do quite a bit. The
phone was $200.

- Slide out keyboard
- 3g
- Android apps
- GPS

Though graphics intensive stuff doesn't work well, it still easily does
many things.

- Latitude
- Pandora
- ESPN Scorecenter
- TunedIn streaming radio
- Google apps

and so on. Smartphones are great and continue to get better. The only
drawback is the battery life is a big step backward.

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Old 12-04-2010, 04:19 AM
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 03:19:44 +0000 (UTC)
Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:

> Steve Sobol wrote on [Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:52:12 -0800]:
> > Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
> >
> > Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?

>
> should be 2.2
>
> > I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...

>
> The Samsung phones look good.


I'd love to get a Vibrant (I'm on T-Mobile), but even with a two-year contract, it's expensive.

Probably worth it - and I'm a fan of Samsung phones in the first place - but $199 (for one of the cheaper smartphones) is probably going to be all I can afford... when I'm finally able to afford an upgrade.

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Old 12-04-2010, 04:25 AM
Steve Sobol
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
> >
> > Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
> >
> > I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
> >

>
> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
> all is said and done it's still just a phone.
>


I can't even browse the web or use the social networking app on my Sentio. My Sentio is just slow, although it does a great job with text messages, IM and phone calls. (Oh, and the web browser sucks, but that's another rant for another day.)

And no, it's not the network that is slow. How do I know this? Because I ALSO have a T-Mobile WebConnect Rocket, a 3G USB stick, and when I plug it into my laptop, Internet access is plenty fast. Not as fast as my ultra-fast broadband connection at home, but hey, it's 3G cellular, I understand the limitations.

For me, the BIGGEST advantage of a smartphone is a much faster CPU.

And I like the idea of having a bunch of convenient apps in a smaller package. My mother got rid of her laptop because she can do everything she needs to do from her phone.

For me, since Android and BlackBerry apps are written in Java, I also see potential to make some money writing apps for those platforms. I've already installed the latest Android SDK and am playing around with it now.



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Old 12-04-2010, 04:27 AM
Steve Sobol
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:58:23 -0500
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.


The Droid X has an onscreen QWERTY keyboard and a touchscreen, as does my LG Sentio.

> When I'm at the doctor's office, he has my full attention! Many doctors
> request that you turn off your cell phone when you enter the examining
> room and some request that you turn it off in the waiting room as well.


You can answer emails without distracting other people. It's difficult to avoid disrupting others when you're on a call.


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Old 12-04-2010, 04:27 AM
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Travis James wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:13:29 -0800]:
> On 12/3/10 9:00 PM, Justin wrote:
>>
>> Most smart phones has a qwerty keyboard. Some have physical and some have
>> onscreen. Calling a physical keyboard a qwerty keyboard is stupid, moronic
>> and plain wrong. Quite a few android phones have physical keyboards, some
>> slide out, there's one from Motorola that is almost identical to a blackberry.
>>

>
> Being frugal, I've delayed moving to a smartphone and rely on my iPod
> Touch for similar capabilities (along with a cheapo T-Mobile prepaid).
>
> However, I recently set my wife up with a smartphone when her texting
> volume increased. It's the Samsung Intercept on Virgin Mobile for $25
> bucks a month (that's it, no extra taxes). It's a great value if you
> don't need quite the edgiest smartphone and expensive plan. It includes
> 300 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited 3G.


unlimited free texting using google voice, easy cheap international
calling using google voice or skype. Those are almost reasons enough
to get an android phone right there

> and so on. Smartphones are great and continue to get better. The only
> drawback is the battery life is a big step backward.


yep

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Old 12-04-2010, 05:32 AM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in news:Y_2dndPSoMP-
IWTRnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@giganews.com:

> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.
>


Patience, my son, Patience!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...9-shows-up-in-
the-wilds-of-china/

Cool phones are yet to come. N9 with a real keyboard is THINNER than
iPhone4....

Love the cool way it opens into a little desktop with tilting display.
Meego from Nokia/Intel on my netbook is pretty cool and very quick on the
Atom processor. 1.1.1 got installed this week.

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Old 12-04-2010, 05:43 AM
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:32:24 +0000
Fred <nobody@here.net> wrote:


> Patience, my son, Patience!
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...9-shows-up-in-
> the-wilds-of-china/


Nokias are fine for some people. My oldest daughter loves her Nuron. I was a Nokia fan for several years, back in the early days of CDMA (wanna talk solid? You could have beat someone to death with my Nokia 2180 with the extended battery. Not big, but solid and *heavy*, and Nokia was the Timex of the wireless world back then... those phones could really 'take a licking and keep on ticking')

But now, my tastes run more towards Samsung, and the HTC smartphones look nice too.

Actually, I must really love Korean products. At one point our family owned two Korean cars and three Korean cell phones.


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Old 12-04-2010, 05:51 AM
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@justthe.net> wrote in
news:20101203224323.ec1b8548.sjsobol@justthe.net:

> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:32:24 +0000
> Fred <nobody@here.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Patience, my son, Patience!
>>
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...n9-shows-up-in
>> - the-wilds-of-china/

>
> Nokias are fine for some people. My oldest daughter loves her Nuron. I
> was a Nokia fan for several years, back in the early days of CDMA
> (wanna talk solid? You could have beat someone to death with my Nokia
> 2180 with the extended battery. Not big, but solid and *heavy*, and
> Nokia was the Timex of the wireless world back then... those phones
> could really 'take a licking and keep on ticking')
>
> But now, my tastes run more towards Samsung, and the HTC smartphones
> look nice too.
>
> Actually, I must really love Korean products. At one point our family
> owned two Korean cars and three Korean cell phones.
>
>


Just saw this engadget page that says they're already over a million Tab
sales:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/03/s...on-galaxy-tab-
units-throws-an-android-pa/

I think the Samsung Galaxy S phones are the best currently for sale in
the USA. But, more interesting stuff is on the horizon. The N9 has been
found in China running Meego 1.1 and I find that very interesting as a
long-time Maemo fan, even though my old N800 has been abandoned by Nokia.

The cool way N9 opens from a thinner-than-IP4 phone into this little
desktop with the tilted display is really cool, indeed.


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Old 12-04-2010, 06:57 AM
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:51:03 +0000
Fred <nobody@here.net> wrote:

> I think the Samsung Galaxy S phones are the best currently for sale in
> the USA.


I think I agree. I also like that Samsung didn't make the phone carrier-exclusive. That was a very smart move on their part.

> But, more interesting stuff is on the horizon.


That's ALWAYS true.

My purchase will be based on what I can afford and what is available over the next 2-3 months, not what's coming.


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Old 12-04-2010, 12:00 PM
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?you can check the properties in the phone.

most droid x were offered the FROYO update several months ago.

mikeyshd



"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@justthe.net> wrote in message news:20101203185212.e9b61ecb.sjsobol@justthe.net.. .
Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.

Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?

I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...

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Old 12-04-2010, 01:13 PM
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On 12/4/2010 6:46 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<idcc3s$6cm$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Justin<nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it.

>
> Why?


Maybe because they have responsibilities and like to get paid so they
can feed themselves?

I just spent a few hours in the waiting room of a hospital in another
city yesterday because I had to take a family in for a procedure. It was
a business day and I accomplished a lot instead of sitting there looking
out the window.

>
> And if you're working there, why are you doing personal things and not
> working?



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Old 12-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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On 12/4/2010 12:00 AM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:58:23 -0500]:
>> On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
>>>> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>>>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
>>>> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
>>>> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
>>>> all is said and done it's still just a phone.
>>>
>>> No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant message
>>> twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.
>>>
>>> The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.
>>>
>>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
>>> has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.

>>
>> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
>> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
>> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
>> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
>> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.

>
> Most smart phones has a qwerty keyboard. Some have physical and some have
> onscreen. Calling a physical keyboard a qwerty keyboard is stupid, moronic
> and plain wrong. Quite a few android phones have physical keyboards, some
> slide out, there's one from Motorola that is almost identical to a blackberry.


Did I call a physical keyboard a QWERTY keyboard? A QWERTY keyboard is
the standard alphanumeric keyboard that offers the alphabet, digits 0-9,
punctuation marks, etc. I don't care if a keyboard is mechanical or
entirely electronic and displayed on a touch screen. When I strike the
key labeled "A", it adds the character to the text I'm writing and
advances the cursor.

My RAZR V3m does NOT have a keyboard in the sense I use. It can send
text but there are only twelve keys on my keyboard. If I want a "C"
I must press the 2-ABC key and then "scroll" to get to the "C". I
seldom "Text" or send e-mail using my phone.

If I wanted to "text", or send e-mail, I'd get a different phone, one
that DOES have a QWERTY keyboard.

>
>
>> When I'm at the doctor's office, he has my full attention! Many doctors
>> request that you turn off your cell phone when you enter the examining
>> room and some request that you turn it off in the waiting room as well.

>
> So, the 30 minutes you wait between arriving on time and when you get called
> into the exam room is filled with 5 year old nat geos?


You must see the same doctor I do! ;-)
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:30 PM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>
>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>
>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I
>> really want an Android smartphone...

>
> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
> all is said and done it's still just a phone.


No phones are not just phones nowadays.
They are informationcentres, and pocket computers.
I do a lot more other stuff then phoning on my android
smartphone. I read books on it, watch TV series etc etc etc.

But you are right, if it had an inbuild shower and
a microwave and heatingsystem. I could be homeless
and have all comforts of a home with me ;o)



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Old 12-04-2010, 01:33 PM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
>>> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>
>>>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn,
>>>> I
>>>> really want an Android smartphone...
>>>
>>> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
>>> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
>>> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
>>> all is said and done it's still just a phone.

>>
>> No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant
>> message
>> twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.
>>
>> The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.
>>
>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
>> has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.

>
> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard.


Android is the OS of the phone, it can have qwerty keyboards or not.
And a qwerty keyboard on screen works fine for me actually, less
knobs that could fall of or go bad,. ;o)

> I could send E-mail with my
> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.


Yes, but you can have a bluetooth one with you if you really wanted it

> When I'm at the doctor's office, he has my full attention! Many doctors
> request that you turn off your cell phone when you enter the examining
> room and some request that you turn it off in the waiting room as well.


Yes, that is because f the disturbance, has nothing to do with the phones
itself,



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Old 12-04-2010, 01:35 PM
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> and so on. Smartphones are great and continue to get better. The only
> drawback is the battery life is a big step backward.


Yep and when I shop around I can get great deals too, actually
it was less expensive in all, that I got a new phione then when I got a
simonly.
So the choice was made easily.




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Old 12-04-2010, 01:37 PM
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Fred wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in news:Y_2dndPSoMP-
> IWTRnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
>> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
>> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
>> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
>> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.
>>

>
> Patience, my son, Patience!
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...9-shows-up-in-
> the-wilds-of-china/
>
> Cool phones are yet to come. N9 with a real keyboard is THINNER than
> iPhone4....
>
> Love the cool way it opens into a little desktop with tilting display.
> Meego from Nokia/Intel on my netbook is pretty cool and very quick on the
> Atom processor. 1.1.1 got installed this week.


Hmm thinner ussually means, easier to break, to me ;o)
So I want someting that fills my hand.



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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:37:18 +0100
"Bellende Belhamel" <bellendebelh@m.el> wrote:



> Hmm thinner ussually means, easier to break, to me ;o)
> So I want someting that fills my hand.



Good news - I've never been so pleased to be wrong.

The Vibrant is $199 with a two-year contract, just like the other high-end T-Mo smartphones.

That does include a $50 web-only discount. On the other hand, I think I may be able to do even better than $199 if I buy the phone from the T-Mo reseller at the local shopping mall...



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Old 12-04-2010, 03:11 PM
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 07:00:06 -0600
"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ?you can check the properties in the phone.
>
> most droid x were offered the FROYO update several months ago.


I'm just curious. It makes no difference to me. I quit Verizon Wireless in 2004 and am not going back, so, no DROIDs for me.

I do, however, like the DROID X.

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Old 12-04-2010, 03:19 PM
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Steve Sobol wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:37:18 +0100
> "Bellende Belhamel" <bellendebelh@m.el> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Hmm thinner ussually means, easier to break, to me ;o)
>> So I want someting that fills my hand.

>
>
> Good news - I've never been so pleased to be wrong.
>
> The Vibrant is $199 with a two-year contract, just like the other high-end
> T-Mo smartphones.
>
> That does include a $50 web-only discount. On the other hand, I think I
> may
> be able to do even better than $199 if I buy the phone from the T-Mo
> reseller
> at the local shopping mall...


My deal, 20 euro p/month, free internet for a year, and a free phone Xperia
X10.
price per minute call, 21 cents, but, not per hole minute (only the first)
but seconds.
And since I have a smartphone, I have a VOIP, so 3 cents a minute(landline)
over that through
Tmobile internet from my phone ;o) (and to cellphones 15 cents.), now I have
to see if my borther
has skype on his phone, that would be free then.




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Old 12-04-2010, 03:24 PM
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On 12/4/2010 8:09 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:37:18 +0100
> "Bellende Belhamel"<bellendebelh@m.el> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Hmm thinner ussually means, easier to break, to me ;o)
>> So I want someting that fills my hand.

>
>
> Good news - I've never been so pleased to be wrong.
>
> The Vibrant is $199 with a two-year contract, just like the other high-end T-Mo smartphones.
>
> That does include a $50 web-only discount. On the other hand, I think I may be able to do even better than $199 if I buy the phone from the T-Mo reseller at the local shopping mall...


<http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003TXSKNE>

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Old 12-04-2010, 03:40 PM
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:24:07 -0800
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


> <http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003TXSKNE>


Yeah, found that too. Much better deal. Looks like Amazon has all of T-Mo's $199 smartphones priced at $119-$129.

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Old 12-04-2010, 03:49 PM
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:46:14 -0500]:
> In article <idcc3s$6cm$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it.

>
> Why?


I dunno, because you want to get in and see the doctor for the three
minutes it takes for the regular visit so he can prescribe you drugs
without taking a half day off work?

> And if you're working there, why are you doing personal things and not
> working?


I guess answering work emails isn't working?

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Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:17:01 -0500]:
> On 12/4/2010 12:00 AM, Justin wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:58:23 -0500]:
>>> On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:16:39 -0500]:
>>>>> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>>>>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
>>>>> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
>>>>> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
>>>>> all is said and done it's still just a phone.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not. It's a communications device. Facebook, email, instant message
>>>> twitter, etc. It's a PIM, it even plays music and games and video.
>>>>
>>>> The Droid X also works as an excellent phone.
>>>>
>>>> try answering work emails at the doctor's office without it. Sure, that
>>>> has downsides too, but the advantages are nice too.
>>>
>>> Other phones do much the same. Some, like the Blackberry, give you a
>>> QWERTY keyboard. I've not looked carefully an Android but the casual
>>> glance did not reveal a QWERTY keyboard. I could send E-mail with my
>>> RAZR V3m if I really needed to but I find a full sized QWERTY keyboard
>>> is a MUCH better fit to my hands.

>>
>> Most smart phones has a qwerty keyboard. Some have physical and some have
>> onscreen. Calling a physical keyboard a qwerty keyboard is stupid, moronic
>> and plain wrong. Quite a few android phones have physical keyboards, some
>> slide out, there's one from Motorola that is almost identical to a blackberry.

>
> Did I call a physical keyboard a QWERTY keyboard? A QWERTY keyboard is


No. You didn't. But the confusion around QWERTY keyboard defn online is
there. Look at a phone website and you will see it refered to as a QWERTY
keyboard when they mean a physical keyboard.

> the standard alphanumeric keyboard that offers the alphabet, digits 0-9,
> punctuation marks, etc. I don't care if a keyboard is mechanical or
> entirely electronic and displayed on a touch screen. When I strike the
> key labeled "A", it adds the character to the text I'm writing and
> advances the cursor.


then yes


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Old 12-04-2010, 04:15 PM
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On 12/3/2010 9:16 PM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> On 12/3/2010 9:52 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Mom's visiting town with her brand-new Motorola DROID X.
>>
>> Pretty sweet phone... Does anyone know if it runs Android 2.1 or 2.2?
>>
>> I won't own a DROID because I refuse to use Verizon Wireless, but
>> damn, I really want an Android smartphone...
>>

>
> Sorry, I just don't see the point of Android. AFAICT it's just another
> cell phone. It's not going to keep me warm at night or make coffee in
> the morning. It may have prettier buttons and blinking lights but when
> all is said and done it's still just a phone.


My HTC Incredible Droid phone is the very best toy I have ever had in
my life *and* it makes phone calls, too!

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