Carrier IQ

I guess by now most of you heard about this "Carrier IQ" spyware that
most carriers preload on the phones they sell, supposedly for our own
good. The software is essentially a key logger, thus lending itself to
all kinds of privacy abuse. T-Mobile claims that they use the info
gained to improve the user experience but privacy advocates are ringing
the alarm bells. The paranoid in me suspects that carriers do this at
the quiet request of national security agencies but I doubt they would
admit it if it was true. What do you think?

In article <jbbsjn$5i0$1@dont-email.me>, Cameo says...
>
> I guess by now most of you heard about this "Carrier IQ" spyware that
> most carriers preload on the phones they sell, supposedly for our own
> good. The software is essentially a key logger, thus lending itself to
> all kinds of privacy abuse. T-Mobile claims that they use the info
> gained to improve the user experience but privacy advocates are ringing
> the alarm bells. The paranoid in me suspects that carriers do this at
> the quiet request of national security agencies but I doubt they would
> admit it if it was true. What do you think?


It's not clear that they were actually doing any keylogging.

http://cnet.co/s1kFYo

but, of course, many people still disagree.

It's a huge privacy violation, either way.


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Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
sjsobol@JustThe.net

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:38:50 -0500, Steve Sobol wrote
(in article <MPG.29432b9470ee181598988b@news.justthe.net>):

> In article <jbbsjn$5i0$1@dont-email.me>, Cameo says...
>>
>> I guess by now most of you heard about this "Carrier IQ" spyware that
>> most carriers preload on the phones they sell, supposedly for our own
>> good. The software is essentially a key logger, thus lending itself to
>> all kinds of privacy abuse. T-Mobile claims that they use the info
>> gained to improve the user experience but privacy advocates are ringing
>> the alarm bells. The paranoid in me suspects that carriers do this at
>> the quiet request of national security agencies but I doubt they would
>> admit it if it was true. What do you think?
>
>
> It's not clear that they were actually doing any keylogging.
>
> http://cnet.co/s1kFYo
>
> but, of course, many people still disagree.
>
> It's a huge privacy violation, either way.
>
>
>

I watched Eckhart's 17-minute video and it sure looked to me (not a
programmer, but also not a dummie) that his keystrokes were being "recorded"
by the program and I still haven't found where anyone has addressed that.

Meaning: how/why is that "recording" happening?
Is that not keylogging?

Even if those results aren't now being transmitted (N.B.: "now" being
important here) can't they be transmitted/tracked later?

I appreciate any insight. I love T-Mo, but this is disturbing.

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Joe

In article <0001HW.CAFF93650029A2BAB030A9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
Joe Dee says...


> I watched Eckhart's 17-minute video and it sure looked to me (not a
> programmer, but also not a dummie) that his keystrokes were being "recorded"
> by the program and I still haven't found where anyone has addressed that.
>
> Meaning: how/why is that "recording" happening?
> Is that not keylogging?

Probably.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging



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Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
sjsobol@JustThe.net