Is Nokia the only company that makes such GSM phones? Their latest
models can work on 5 WCDMA bands: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100. With
such phones you could travel virtually anywhere and use a local SIM
cards in them. If it was not for their deprecated Symbios OS, I would
buy one of those. I wish someone would make them with Android.
On 2011-07-08, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Is Nokia the only company that makes such GSM phones? Their latest
> models can work on 5 WCDMA bands: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100. With
> such phones you could travel virtually anywhere and use a local SIM
> cards in them. If it was not for their deprecated Symbios OS, I would
> buy one of those. I wish someone would make them with Android.
Nokia is the only company I know of, though I'd be interested
if you found someone else selling phones with that band coverage.
I have a Nokia C6-01, despite the fact that Symbian deserves to
die and I would find it hard to call that phone a "smartphone".
I can, however, use any carrier I can buy a SIM card from just about
anywhere, and the phone makes a good modem when I need to do
that.
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:32:00 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On 2011-07-08, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Is Nokia the only company that makes such GSM phones? Their latest
>> models can work on 5 WCDMA bands: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100. With
>> such phones you could travel virtually anywhere and use a local SIM
>> cards in them. If it was not for their deprecated Symbios OS, I would
>> buy one of those. I wish someone would make them with Android.
>
> Nokia is the only company I know of, though I'd be interested
> if you found someone else selling phones with that band coverage.
> I have a Nokia C6-01, despite the fact that Symbian deserves to
> die and I would find it hard to call that phone a "smartphone".
> I can, however, use any carrier I can buy a SIM card from just about
> anywhere, and the phone makes a good modem when I need to do
> that.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
Q.: Good in Japan and Korea (where a GSM-only phone is useless), too?
Cheers, -- tlvp
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On 2011-07-08, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:32:00 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-07-08, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Is Nokia the only company that makes such GSM phones? Their latest
>>> models can work on 5 WCDMA bands: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100. With
>>> such phones you could travel virtually anywhere and use a local SIM
>>> cards in them. If it was not for their deprecated Symbios OS, I would
>>> buy one of those. I wish someone would make them with Android.
>>
>> Nokia is the only company I know of, though I'd be interested
>> if you found someone else selling phones with that band coverage.
>> I have a Nokia C6-01, despite the fact that Symbian deserves to
>> die and I would find it hard to call that phone a "smartphone".
>> I can, however, use any carrier I can buy a SIM card from just about
>> anywhere, and the phone makes a good modem when I need to do
>> that.
>>
>> Dennis Ferguson
>
> Q.: Good in Japan and Korea (where a GSM-only phone is useless), too?
Yes. KT and SK Telecom in Korea, and NTT and Softbank in Japan,
run UMTS 2100 networks. I know there's a third UMTS carrier in
Japan, eMobile, which runs a "UMTS 1700" network, but Japan
1700 isn't the same band as North America 1700 (the latter is
what my phone supports) so that one doesn't show up on the phone.
Those aren't the only places WCDMA is useful, though. A lot
of places where GSM does work have individual carriers which
are UMTS-only, so not having the WCDMA bands generally restricts
your choices. Worse, since the UMTS-only carriers tend to be
newer, smaller and maybe more competitive, sometimes their prices
are nicer. I use a Three UK SIM with a price plan I'm very
fond of, and there are at least 6 UMTS carriers covering parts
of Ontario, Canada, only one of which supports GSM as well (I
have a Mobilicity SIM at the moment, they are UMTS 1700 only).
And I've been places where mobile phone data pricing is a steal
compared to the price of a day's worth of hotel in-room Internet
service, so I'm happy not to have to live with Edge speeds.
Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnj1erhj.13e.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com...
> Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
> travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
Hear, hear, bro'! I wonder if the upcoming Nokia Windows Phones will
still include those five 3G frequencies. That might make them more
competitive than the Symbios phones are now.
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:53:07 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On 2011-07-08, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:32:00 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-07-08, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Is Nokia the only company that makes such GSM phones? Their latest
>>>> models can work on 5 WCDMA bands: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100. With
>>>> such phones you could travel virtually anywhere and use a local SIM
>>>> cards in them. If it was not for their deprecated Symbios OS, I would
>>>> buy one of those. I wish someone would make them with Android.
>>>
>>> Nokia is the only company I know of, though I'd be interested
>>> if you found someone else selling phones with that band coverage.
>>> I have a Nokia C6-01, despite the fact that Symbian deserves to
>>> die and I would find it hard to call that phone a "smartphone".
>>> I can, however, use any carrier I can buy a SIM card from just about
>>> anywhere, and the phone makes a good modem when I need to do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Dennis Ferguson
>>
>> Q.: Good in Japan and Korea (where a GSM-only phone is useless), too?
>
> Yes. KT and SK Telecom in Korea, and NTT and Softbank in Japan,
> run UMTS 2100 networks. I know there's a third UMTS carrier in
> Japan, eMobile, which runs a "UMTS 1700" network, but Japan
> 1700 isn't the same band as North America 1700 (the latter is
> what my phone supports) so that one doesn't show up on the phone.
>
> Those aren't the only places WCDMA is useful, though. A lot
> of places where GSM does work have individual carriers which
> are UMTS-only, so not having the WCDMA bands generally restricts
> your choices. Worse, since the UMTS-only carriers tend to be
> newer, smaller and maybe more competitive, sometimes their prices
> are nicer. I use a Three UK SIM with a price plan I'm very
> fond of, and there are at least 6 UMTS carriers covering parts
> of Ontario, Canada, only one of which supports GSM as well (I
> have a Mobilicity SIM at the moment, they are UMTS 1700 only).
> And I've been places where mobile phone data pricing is a steal
> compared to the price of a day's worth of hotel in-room Internet
> service, so I'm happy not to have to live with Edge speeds.
>
> Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
> travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
Nokia C6-01; N8, presumably, too? And what others, specifically?
At 08 Jul 2011 20:05:56 -0700 Cameo wrote:
> "Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnj1erhj.13e.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com...
> > Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
> > travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
>
> Hear, hear, bro'! I wonder if the upcoming Nokia Windows Phones will
> still include those five 3G frequencies. That might make them more
> competitive than the Symbios phones are now.
As of yet, the new Windows Phones (unlike the old-school Windows Mobile
phones) do not support tethering, so they're useless as modems.
On 2011-07-09, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:53:07 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
>> travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
[...]
>
> Nokia C6-01; N8, presumably, too? And what others, specifically?
Most of the high end phones: C7, E7, X7 and N8, I think. I've
wanted one with those bands since they announced the N8, but
couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a phone I was
unlikely to do much with beyond talk and use as a modem (which
is about all Symbian is fit for in my view). The C6-01 is
lower end than those and was selling at a discount in Asia,
so it is the first one which came in (barely!) under my price
threshold.
The N9 will probably cover those bands as well. Meego is also
a dead end operating system but at least has the huge advantage
that it isn't Symbian. My feeling about the latter has moved
from dislike to detest, in case that isn't obvious.
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 16:16:22 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On 2011-07-09, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:53:07 -0400, Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> Phones with that UMTS band coverage really are useful for
>>> travel, I just wish Nokia wasn't the only one selling them.
> [...]
>>
>> Nokia C6-01; N8, presumably, too? And what others, specifically?
>
> Most of the high end phones: C7, E7, X7 and N8, I think. ...
> ... The N9 will probably cover those bands as well. ...
Thanks, Dennis, now that I know who the players are I'll
keep my eyes peeled for any decent pricing I might find.
Cheers, -- tlvp
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