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Old 10-18-2010, 12:13 AM
danny burstein
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Default grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

I've got a "t-mobile at home" number, using the TM branded
Linksys to get a pseudo landline jack. (I understand
they're no longer offering this as a new service. sigh).

"sometime" in the past three or four days it died. The
"phone" didn't get dial tone and the blue indicator LED
on the router was blank.

The other internet services worked fine through it.

I tried power cycling, both the router and the cable
modem in pretty much every combo. No good. I'd get
the internet routing once things settled down but
no phone.

I swapped the SIM into my spare TM/Linksys. Again, after
things settled down, I had internet but no phone.

I logged into the router. It told me the SIM was
in place, but not registered.

On a hunch I told the router to "dhcp release",
then rebooted, and a bit later had my "phone line"
back and working. Don't know if that was the
trick but it seems to have fixed things.

Anyone else run into this?

Thanks

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Old 10-18-2010, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 20:13:39 -0400, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> I've got a "t-mobile at home" number, using the TM branded
> Linksys to get a pseudo landline jack. (I understand
> they're no longer offering this as a new service. sigh).
>
> "sometime" in the past three or four days it died. The
> "phone" didn't get dial tone and the blue indicator LED
> on the router was blank.
>
> The other internet services worked fine through it.
>
> I tried power cycling, both the router and the cable
> modem in pretty much every combo. No good. I'd get
> the internet routing once things settled down but
> no phone.
>
> I swapped the SIM into my spare TM/Linksys. Again, after
> things settled down, I had internet but no phone.
>
> I logged into the router. It told me the SIM was
> in place, but not registered.
>
> On a hunch I told the router to "dhcp release",
> then rebooted, and a bit later had my "phone line"
> back and working. Don't know if that was the
> trick but it seems to have fixed things.
>
> Anyone else run into this?
>
> Thanks


Must have been the trick :-) . Naturally T-Mo CS was of zero use here?
Glad you got it sorted, and shared the details for others' benefit(s).

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Old 10-18-2010, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In <op.vkqz6agmitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> writes:
[ snip ]

>> I logged into the router. It told me the SIM was
>> in place, but not registered.
>>
>> On a hunch I told the router to "dhcp release",
>> then rebooted, and a bit later had my "phone line"
>> back and working. Don't know if that was the
>> trick but it seems to have fixed things.
>>
>> Anyone else run into this?
>>
>> Thanks


>Must have been the trick :-) . Naturally T-Mo CS was of zero use here?
>Glad you got it sorted, and shared the details for others' benefit(s).


Didn't have a chance to call TM because... well... ummm..
... I didn't have another phone with me...

(My cellular was going for a road trip).

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Old 10-18-2010, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In article <i9g8ui$l56$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...


> Didn't have a chance to call TM because... well... ummm..
> .. I didn't have another phone with me...
>
> (My cellular was going for a road trip).



Hey, Danny.

Let me know if I'm missing the point here:

You don't get a TMo@Home "number". Any T-Mobile line can be used with
the service. You just need a UMA-capable phone, like my Samsung
Katalyst.

You also don't need to use a T-Mo router. All you need is a WiFi
connection.

You don't even need to pay for the T-Mo@Home service. If you don't pay
the monthly fee, the UMA minutes count against your monthly allotment.
All the $10/month gets you is unlimited usage over UMA.

I used to use my Katalyst with my Linksys-branded WiFi router (similar
to the one that T-Mo used to sell) and had no problems.

The only oddity I found was this: your wi-fi must either be open, or if
it's protected with a passphrase, it must be communicating on Channel 1,
6 or 11 (the three most commonly used wi-fi channels). Most wi-fi
routers and access points (even the cheap consumer devices) let you set
the channel the device uses.

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Old 10-18-2010, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In <MPG.27258b769ce5b3c3989a6c@news.justthe.net> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> writes:

>Hey, Danny.


>Let me know if I'm missing the point here:


>You don't get a TMo@Home "number". Any T-Mobile line can be used with
>the service. You just need a UMA-capable phone, like my Samsung
>Katalyst.


Ah, you're thinking of the _other_ TM service, namely "hot spot
at home", or somesuch.

For a couple of years, ending about six months ago, Tm had
their version of a VOIP line. (I'm grandfathered in).

The way it works is they've got (or had) a TM enhanced and
branded Linksys wifi router which... had two additions
to the standard WRTsomethingor another.

First, it had two SIM slots inside. Second is that it had... two
"phone jacks" in the back.

Simply insert a SIM (or two), hook the unit to an internet/ethernet
feed, and plug a wired phone (or two) inth the back. Viola, you've
got yourself a pseudo landline.

WOrks ok with regular phones, answering machines, cordless units.
Does not (per their instructions - I never tested) work with
fax machines or modems.

And like with other VOIP phones, you can be pretty much
anywhere in the world when you plug it in...

Now getting to the UMA deal:

>You also don't need to use a T-Mo router. All you need is a WiFi
>connection.


Using the TM branded routers gives you a "QOS" priority
for the voice packets. I haven't done a direct packet
count, but I did swap back and forth between a default
Apple Airport base and the TM/Linksys for making UMA calls,
and the TM unit seemed... to be much better.

>The only oddity I found was this: your wi-fi must either be open, or if
>it's protected with a passphrase, it must be communicating on Channel 1,
>6 or 11 (the three most commonly used wi-fi channels). Most wi-fi
>routers and access points (even the cheap consumer devices) let you set
>the channel the device uses.


I've used UMA with passwords [a], but never noticed
the channel restriction. THen again, my own system
is on one of those three channels, and most public
sites are on 6. Hmm, will check...

[a] annoyingly the stadard UMA capable phones will
let you enter in a password, but can't handle
a splash/redirection page. Don't know if the "smart"
phones can manage.


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Old 10-18-2010, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In article <i9gsrf$fd7$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...


> Using the TM branded routers gives you a "QOS" priority
> for the voice packets.


Yes, but that is also a feature of most other routers, including all
Cisco/Linksys non-T-Mobile-branded routers.


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Old 10-18-2010, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In <MPG.2726078399dc0ccf989a6d@news.justthe.net> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> writes:

>In article <i9gsrf$fd7$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...


>> Using the TM branded routers gives you a "QOS" priority
>> for the voice packets.


>Yes, but that is also a feature of most other routers, including all
>Cisco/Linksys non-T-Mobile-branded routers.


Is that the default setting out of the box? Most people just
plug-and-pray....


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Old 10-19-2010, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: grumble grumble "t-mobile at home" problems

In article <i9hpnh$8tq$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...
>
> In <MPG.2726078399dc0ccf989a6d@news.justthe.net> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> writes:
>
> >In article <i9gsrf$fd7$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...

>
> >> Using the TM branded routers gives you a "QOS" priority
> >> for the voice packets.

>
> >Yes, but that is also a feature of most other routers, including all
> >Cisco/Linksys non-T-Mobile-branded routers.

>
> Is that the default setting out of the box? Most people just
> plug-and-pray....



No, it's not the default. My Linsksy WRT54G (one of the most popular
router models of all time :>) has QoS settings, IIRC, but they are
turned off by default.

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