I have a Samsung phone with a "Reject List" feature where, I a
number is added to the list, the caller gets flipped to voice
mail and the phone never rings.
I changed my voice mail greeting to the max length allowed hoping
that the robocalls would hang up before automatically being
allowed to record.
Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
The Bottom Line:
Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
By "Hard", I mean the phone never rings and either the caller
never gets to voice mail or has to jump through one or more hoops
to leave a message.
--
Pete Cresswell
> Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
I have a Blackberry with an app called "Call Blocker Professional"
from Blackberry App World. It claims to offer a choice between
"Send to Voicemail" and "Pick up and Hang up". Based on tests from
my own landline, it seems to work on T-Mobile as advertised. Then
again, I'm not likely to act like a robocaller during tests.
I don't know whether it's available for any other platform or not.
I am also not sure whether the caller gets to listen to half a second
or so of room conversation before getting dropped.
> By "Hard", I mean the phone never rings and either the caller
> never gets to voice mail or has to jump through one or more hoops
> to leave a message.
I don't use that option except for tests. I have never gotten voice
mail from robocallers and I may be a little too quick to block
answer-and-nobody-there or wrong-number calls, so I let them go to
voicemail.
On Fri, 11 May 2012 15:14:19 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> inscribed:
>Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
>fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
>
>The Bottom Line:
>
>Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
Nope, but I know how to stop them...
I don't get these robo calls I see folks complaining about, I've just always put
my phone numbers on the do not call list https://www.donotcall.gov/
> On Fri, 11 May 2012 15:14:19 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> inscribed:
>
>>Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
>>fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
>>
>>The Bottom Line:
>>
>>Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
>
> Nope, but I know how to stop them...
>
> I don't get these robo calls I see folks complaining about, I've just always put
> my phone numbers on the do not call list https://www.donotcall.gov/
Time and time again I get robo-calls from either political campaigns or
charitable groups, who all maintain they are not subject to the constraints
of the National DoNotCall Registry. If I ask sweetly that they put my
number on their own internal Do Not Call list, they (usually) respond,
equally sweetly, that they'd be glad to ... but who knows whether they do
any such thing :-) .
Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
>> Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
>> fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
>>
>> The Bottom Line:
>>
>> Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
>
> Nope, but I know how to stop them...
>
> I don't get these robo calls I see folks complaining about, I've just always put
> my phone numbers on the do not call list https://www.donotcall.gov/
Ours has been on the "Do Not Call" list for years, but we still keep
getting calls from "Card Services" (at a variety of different numbers,
some with far too few digits) offering to get us a reduced interest rate
on our credit card -- but we don't carry a balance on any of them so are
not paying interest.
Per Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov:
>Nope, but I know how to stop them...
>
>I don't get these robo calls I see folks complaining about, I've just always put
>my phone numbers on the do not call list https://www.donotcall.gov/
I'm on both fed and state DNC lists.
My take is that these are becoming increasingly moot by the day.
What's happening is that the telemarketers are moving offshore
and/or hiding behind multiple VOIP relays.
I've got at least a dozen lame-sounding letters from the Penna
Att'y General's office to that effect.
So enjoy it while you can, the end is coming unless the
prosecutors show some initiative.
--
Pete Cresswell
Per tlvp:
>Time and time again I get robo-calls from either political campaigns or
>charitable groups, who all maintain they are not subject to the constraints
>of the National DoNotCall Registry.
I'm not so sweet.
I tell them that I don't really care who paid somebody off to get
their exception and it should be pretty obvious that I don't want
to be called - and that they could have avoided this little
ration by consulting the DNC list.
Doesn't do any good, of course bc they're minimum-wage people
working from a computer that does the dialing.
I'm not looking forward the coming election-driven frenzy of robo
calls.
--
Pete Cresswell
>On Fri, 11 May 2012 15:14:19 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> inscribed:
>
>>Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
>>fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
>>
>>The Bottom Line:
>>
>>Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
>
>Nope, but I know how to stop them...
>
>I don't get these robo calls I see folks complaining about, I've just always put
>my phone numbers on the do not call list https://www.donotcall.gov/
>
>
>
The Federal do not call list is a joke. No one consults it before
calling. I get hundreds of calls per year form telemarketers, When
confronted, they claim they thought it was a business number, which
iseo from the regulation. Might as well not be a list at all. Of
course it does keep our tax money flowing to pay some bureaucracy that
accomplishes nothing.
>> I get hundreds of calls per year form telemarketers, When
>> confronted, they claim they thought it was a business number, which
>> iseo from the regulation.
>
> I put it to one guy and he didn't even miss a beat. He shot back
> "How about the do-not-care list"... and hung up. At least it
> was good for a laugh...
I don't know whether they live up to their claim, but the Do Not Call
list Web site claims that they collect information about reported
violations and may take legal action.
Per nobody@nada.com:
> I get hundreds of calls per year form telemarketers, When
>confronted, they claim they thought it was a business number, which
>iseo from the regulation.
I put it to one guy and he didn't even miss a beat. He shot back
"How about the do-not-care list"... and hung up. At least it
was good for a laugh...
--
Pete Cresswell
Per Percival P. Cassidy:
>I don't know whether they live up to their claim, but the Do Not Call
>list Web site claims that they collect information about reported
>violations and may take legal action.
My experience suggests that "may* is the operative word there.
In the beginning, the people behind the Penna state list took
action. Now they may be taking action against the slam-dunks,
but do not seem to have shown the initiative to nail the
offshore/VOIP relay offenders.
--
Pete Cresswell
In <ofoms79kcdknv3td3bt9ltraon9m1ad1oi@4ax.com> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> writes:
>Per Percival P. Cassidy:
>>I don't know whether they live up to their claim, but the Do Not Call
>>list Web site claims that they collect information about reported
>>violations and may take legal action.
>My experience suggests that "may* is the operative word there.
>In the beginning, the people behind the Penna state list took
>action. Now they may be taking action against the slam-dunks,
>but do not seem to have shown the initiative to nail the
>offshore/VOIP relay offenders.
Has anyone ever identified the person
behind the "Rachel of Cardholder Services" voice?
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Per danny burstein:
>
>Has anyone ever identified the person
>behind the "Rachel of Cardholder Services" voice?
You mean it's not just Rachel and me?..... -)
Seems to me like that's a prime example of where some initiative
could help. Sooner or later, if the recipient follows whatever
chain of events transpires, it seems to me like they should come
up with the contact info for some entity on U.S. soil... and if
the recipient were on a DNC list staff....
OTOH, I've tried something like that a couple of times with other
callers and it was pretty clear to me that they go through this
on a regular basis.... you get so far and then.... "Click!"...
--
Pete Cresswell
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:47:40 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
<Nobody@NotMyISP.net> wrote:
>On 06/02/12 08:57 pm, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>
>>> I get hundreds of calls per year form telemarketers, When
>>> confronted, they claim they thought it was a business number, which
>>> iseo from the regulation.
>>
>> I put it to one guy and he didn't even miss a beat. He shot back
>> "How about the do-not-care list"... and hung up. At least it
>> was good for a laugh...
>
>I don't know whether they live up to their claim, but the Do Not Call
>list Web site claims that they collect information about reported
>violations and may take legal action.
>
>Perce
The first hundred or so I reported. They did absolutely nothing. The
key word is "may".
If your Samsung phone runs Android, you can use Mr. Number. You can set
it to pick up and hang up.
On 5/11/2012 1:14 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
> I have a Samsung phone with a "Reject List" feature where, I a
> number is added to the list, the caller gets flipped to voice
> mail and the phone never rings.
>
> I changed my voice mail greeting to the max length allowed hoping
> that the robocalls would hang up before automatically being
> allowed to record.
>
> Seems to work most of the time, but I'm still getting some
> fragmentary voice mails from robocalls.
>
> The Bottom Line:
>
> Does anybody know of phones or vendors with a "Hard" reject?
>
> By "Hard", I mean the phone never rings and either the caller
> never gets to voice mail or has to jump through one or more hoops
> to leave a message.
>
"Hard" Reject? 
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