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Old 03-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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Today in Tech: Big T-Mobile layoffs coming

T-Mobile USA CEO Philipp Humm told employees that the
company is eliminating 5% of its workforce, or nearly
1,900 jobs in the U.S., and closing seven call centers
as part of a reorganization. The announcement comes
three months after AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile
fell through.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/...ayoffs-coming/

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Old 03-23-2012, 05:17 PM
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On 3/23/2012 5:45 AM, danny burstein wrote:
> Today in Tech: Big T-Mobile layoffs coming
>
> T-Mobile USA CEO Philipp Humm told employees that the
> company is eliminating 5% of its workforce, or nearly
> 1,900 jobs in the U.S., and closing seven call centers
> as part of a reorganization. The announcement comes
> three months after AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile
> fell through.
>
> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/...ayoffs-coming/
>

I thought those call centers were in India.

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Old 03-23-2012, 06:02 PM
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:17:52 -0700, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
wrote:

>On 3/23/2012 5:45 AM, danny burstein wrote:
>> Today in Tech: Big T-Mobile layoffs coming
>>
>> T-Mobile USA CEO Philipp Humm told employees that the
>> company is eliminating 5% of its workforce, or nearly
>> 1,900 jobs in the U.S., and closing seven call centers
>> as part of a reorganization. The announcement comes
>> three months after AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile
>> fell through.
>>
>> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/...ayoffs-coming/
>>

>I thought those call centers were in India.


They have one 3 miles from my house, and I don't live in India. ;-)

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Old 03-23-2012, 08:10 PM
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On 3/23/2012 11:02 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
> They have one 3 miles from my house, and I don't live in India. ;-)


I guess they brought back those call centers then or I am thinking of
another company. I haven't needed them for a while, so it's easy to
mistake them.


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Old 03-24-2012, 03:18 PM
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:45:19 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein wrote:
>
> Today in Tech: Big T-Mobile layoffs coming
>
> T-Mobile USA CEO Philipp Humm told employees that the
> company is eliminating 5% of its workforce, or nearly
> 1,900 jobs in the U.S., and closing seven call centers
> as part of a reorganization. The announcement comes
> three months after AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile
> fell through.
>
> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/...ayoffs-coming/


"On December 19, 2011, AT&T announced that it would permanently end its
merger bid after a "thorough review of its options". The announcement
included an assertion that the failure of the acquisition would
increase costs to consumers and harm innovation in the wireless market.

As per the original acquisition agreement, Deutsche Telekom will
receive $3 billion in cash as well as access to $1 billion worth of
AT&T-held wireless spectrum."

So, I guess the Deutsche Telekom & T-mobile executives split the
"$3 billion in cash" , and the employees got the boot.


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Old 03-24-2012, 04:59 PM
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On 3/24/2012 8:18 AM, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:45:19 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein wrote:
>>
>> Today in Tech: Big T-Mobile layoffs coming
>>
>> T-Mobile USA CEO Philipp Humm told employees that the
>> company is eliminating 5% of its workforce, or nearly
>> 1,900 jobs in the U.S., and closing seven call centers
>> as part of a reorganization. The announcement comes
>> three months after AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile
>> fell through.
>>
>> http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/...ayoffs-coming/

>
> "On December 19, 2011, AT&T announced that it would permanently end its
> merger bid after a "thorough review of its options". The announcement
> included an assertion that the failure of the acquisition would
> increase costs to consumers and harm innovation in the wireless market.
>
> As per the original acquisition agreement, Deutsche Telekom will
> receive $3 billion in cash as well as access to $1 billion worth of
> AT&T-held wireless spectrum."
>
> So, I guess the Deutsche Telekom& T-mobile executives split the
> "$3 billion in cash" , and the employees got the boot.


And of course AT&T is jumping up and down screaming "if the merger had
been approved then this wouldn't have happened."

The bottom line is that T-Mobile is hemorrhaging customers because of
their coverage issues and their lack of the iPhone. Ironically, T-Mobile
is now using the spectrum they got from AT&T as part of the failed
merger to support 3G on 1900 MHz so suddenly all those iPhones that have
been unlocked and moved to T-Mobile are beginning to work in 3G.

Of course once there is an LTE iPhone T-Mobile will be at a disadvantage
since T-Mobile has not even begun to build their 4G network.


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Old 03-24-2012, 05:52 PM
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On 3/24/2012 8:18 AM, Allodoxaphobia wrote:

> So, I guess the Deutsche Telekom& T-mobile executives split the
> "$3 billion in cash" , and the employees got the boot.


It would be lucky if T-Mo could keep any of that money at all. At one
time I've read somewhere that the German parent company needed all of it
to repay its debt and other issues back in Europe. So I figured all T-Mo
would get out of it is the extra spectrum.


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Old 03-24-2012, 05:56 PM
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On 3/24/2012 9:59 AM, SMS wrote:

> Of course once there is an LTE iPhone T-Mobile will be at a disadvantage
> since T-Mobile has not even begun to build their 4G network.


But they will then leapfrogged the LTE tachnology its rivals are using
today.


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Old 03-24-2012, 07:00 PM
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On 3/24/2012 10:56 AM, cameo wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 9:59 AM, SMS wrote:
>
>> Of course once there is an LTE iPhone T-Mobile will be at a disadvantage
>> since T-Mobile has not even begun to build their 4G network.

>
> But they will then leapfrogged the LTE tachnology its rivals are using
> today.


4G is more of a carrier benefit because it will reduce network
congestion (assuming the same quantities of data). For a phone or tablet
3G is fast enough for all practical purposes. If you're creating a
mobile hot spot then that's a different story.

The merger that will make sense, eventually, is Sprint and T-Mobile.
Then you'd have three competitors of similar size. But after Sprint
campaigned do hard against the AT&T acquisition of T-Mobile they'll have
a hard time coming back to make a case.

I would not be surprised if T-Mobile was well aware that the acquisition
by AT&T was highly unlikely to be approved and played AT&T for the fool.
When I saw all the bizarre non-profit groups that AT&T donates to coming
out in favor of the acquisition the first thing I thought was "AT&T is
really desperate."


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Old 03-24-2012, 07:55 PM
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:00:48 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/24/2012 10:56 AM, cameo wrote:
>> On 3/24/2012 9:59 AM, SMS wrote:
>>
>>> Of course once there is an LTE iPhone T-Mobile will be at a disadvantage
>>> since T-Mobile has not even begun to build their 4G network.

>>
>> But they will then leapfrogged the LTE tachnology its rivals are using
>> today.

>
>4G is more of a carrier benefit because it will reduce network
>congestion (assuming the same quantities of data). For a phone or tablet
>3G is fast enough for all practical purposes. If you're creating a
>mobile hot spot then that's a different story.
>
>The merger that will make sense, eventually, is Sprint and T-Mobile.
>Then you'd have three competitors of similar size. But after Sprint
>campaigned do hard against the AT&T acquisition of T-Mobile they'll have
>a hard time coming back to make a case.


Similar size, but what a mish-mash of technology and network systems.
Being burned pretty badly by the Nextel merger (or acquisition), I
wonder if Sprint would be eager to do it again.

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