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Old 05-04-2012, 11:49 PM
nobody@nada.com
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:07:38 -0500,
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:

>From ENG
>
>
>
>
>T-Mobile Introduces Its Latest Budget-Friendly Smartphone: T-Mobile
>Prism
>
>Built for first-time smartphone customers, the new Android device is
>expected to be available starting May 6.
>
>BELLEVUE, Wash., - May 2, 2012 - T-Mobile USA, Inc., today announced
>the upcoming availability of the T-Mobileś Prism™, the latest
>budget-friendly option for cost-conscious consumers looking for their
>first smartphone. The T-Mobile Prism will be available to T-Mobile
>customers through flexible pricing options, including no annual
>contract paired with a T-Mobile Monthly4G™ plan or paired with a
>two-year T-Mobile Classic or Value plan.
>
>Powered by Android™ 2.3 Gingerbread and featuring a 3.5-inch HVGA
>touch screen, the new 3G smartphone enables T-Mobile customers to
>easily surf the Web, access their favorite social networking sites and
>choose from thousands of applications to download from Google Play.
>The T-Mobile Prism also makes it simple to capture and share photos
>and videos via its 3.2-megapixel camera with digital zoom and video
>recorder. With the T-Mobile Prism, customers can sync multiple email
>accounts, including Microsoft Exchange, Google calendar and contacts,
>T-Mobile contacts, and more.
>
>The T-Mobile Prism is expected to be available at Best Buy starting
>May 6, at Walmart starting May 9 and available nationwide at T-Mobile
>retail stores, online via www.T-Mobile.com and at select dealers
>beginning May 23. The T-Mobile Prism is expected to cost $19.99 after
>a $50 mail-in-rebate card with a two-year service agreement and
>qualifying Classic voice and data plan or $149.99 via no annual
>contract.
>
>View the attachments for this post at:
>http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.p...5908#155685908



Far smarter to but t outright for $150 and get the Walmart $30 plan.
It's $30 a month less than a contract plan, no tax is added and it
offers tons more data. Unless you use many hundreds of voice minutes,
you are ahead.

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Old 05-05-2012, 07:52 AM
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On 5/4/2012 4:49 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> Far smarter to but t outright for $150 and get the Walmart $30 plan.
> It's $30 a month less than a contract plan, no tax is added and it
> offers tons more data. Unless you use many hundreds of voice minutes,
> you are ahead.


Here in WA state they only add sales tax to the $30 prepaid charge while
postpaid plans are loaded with all kinds state and federal charges that
amount to significant part of the total bill. So I also bought my Amaze
4G outright and I am on that Walmart plan, though I got it directly from
T-Mo online. You can't find a better deal than that if you don't call
more than 100 minutes a month. Heck, I don't even call 10 minutes with
it because I also have a landline phone. Actually I don't even use much
of TM's data network as more often than not, I have to use WiFi. So
texting is where no-limit really matters for me. I wonder if T-Mo will
still have such good deals with their planned LTE network.


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Old 05-06-2012, 03:21 AM
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On 05/05/2012 02:52 AM, cameo wrote:

> Here in WA state they only add sales tax to the $30 prepaid charge while
> postpaid plans are loaded with all kinds state and federal charges that
> amount to significant part of the total bill. So I also bought my Amaze


And loading funds through a vendor like callingmart gets around even
that tax. I had it load directly to my number; worked great.


> 4G outright and I am on that Walmart plan, though I got it directly from
> T-Mo online. You can't find a better deal than that if you don't call
> more than 100 minutes a month. Heck, I don't even call 10 minutes with
> it because I also have a landline phone.



Yeah, I used less than 10mins/month because I was always on wifi (GrooVe
IP) or near a landline.



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Old 05-06-2012, 10:45 PM
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On 5/5/2012 8:21 PM, Frater Mus wrote:
> And loading funds through a vendor like callingmart gets around even
> that tax. I had it load directly to my number; worked great.


As I've never heard of this Callingmart before, I googled it up and
bought a $30 credit for only $29.70 using my PayPal acct. No extra
charges were added. Callingmart emailed me the confirmation with a PIN
number and usage instructions:

"Dial *TOGO (mobile phone) or 1-877-778-2106 (landline) and follow the
voice prompts.
NOTE: Please make sure that your prepaid account is set-up for Monthly
Unlimited Rate Plan in order to apply this Unlimited PIN accordingly.

*These T-Mobile ToGo refill PIN (s) should be loaded on a prepaid phone
within 90 days from date of purchase. The actual airtime minute
expiration starts only on the day that you load it on your phone."

However, when I called up that *TOGO number, T-Mo present me only
payment options with credit, debit, or refill cards and I had no idea
which would lead me to enter Callingmart's PIN mumber. Can you help me
out with this one?

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Old 05-06-2012, 11:13 PM
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On 5/5/2012 8:21 PM, Frater Mus wrote:
> And loading funds through a vendor like callingmart gets around even
> that tax. I had it load directly to my number; worked great.


As I've never heard of this Callingmart before, I googled it up and
bought a $30 credit for only $29.70 using my PayPal acct. No extra
charges were added. Callingmart emailed me the confirmation with a PIN
number and usage instructions:

"Dial *TOGO (mobile phone) or 1-877-778-2106 (landline) and follow the
voice prompts.
NOTE: Please make sure that your prepaid account is set-up for Monthly
Unlimited Rate Plan in order to apply this Unlimited PIN accordingly.

*These T-Mobile ToGo refill PIN (s) should be loaded on a prepaid phone
within 90 days from date of purchase. The actual airtime minute
expiration starts only on the day that you load it on your phone."

However, when I called up that *TOGO number, T-Mo present me only
payment options with credit, debit, or refill cards and I had no idea
which would lead me to enter Callingmart's PIN mumber. Can you help me
out with this one?

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Old 05-07-2012, 12:31 AM
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At 06 May 2012 16:13:44 -0700 cameo wrote:
> On 5/5/2012 8:21 PM, Frater Mus wrote:
> > And loading funds through a vendor like callingmart gets around even
> > that tax. I had it load directly to my number; worked great.

>
> As I've never heard of this Callingmart before, I googled it up and

bought a $30 credit for only $29.70 using my PayPal acct. No extra
charges were added. Callingmart emailed me the confirmation with a PIN
number and usage instructions:
>
> "Dial *TOGO (mobile phone) or 1-877-778-2106 (landline) and follow the

voice prompts.
> NOTE: Please make sure that your prepaid account is set-up for Monthly

Unlimited Rate Plan in order to apply this Unlimited PIN accordingly.
>
> *These T-Mobile ToGo refill PIN (s) should be loaded on a prepaid phone

within 90 days from date of purchase. The actual airtime minute
expiration starts only on the day that you load it on your phone."
>
> However, when I called up that *TOGO number, T-Mo present me only

payment options with credit, debit, or refill cards and I had no idea
which would lead me to enter Callingmart's PIN mumber. Can you help me
out with this one?


The Callingmart PIN is a "refill card". Select that option and follow the
prompts.




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Old 05-07-2012, 02:16 AM
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On 5/6/2012 5:31 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:

> The Callingmart PIN is a "refill card". Select that option and follow the
> prompts.


Thanks, Tood. Now that you told me, I realized that an even simpler
method was to youe the phone's MyAccount app to do it. It worked like a
charm. What I don't get though what Callingmart gets out of this. But
hey, I'm not complaining. ;-)


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Old 05-07-2012, 03:04 AM
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On Sun, 06 May 2012 19:16:04 -0700, cameo wrote:

> On 5/6/2012 5:31 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> The Callingmart PIN is a "refill card". Select that option and follow the
>> prompts.

>
> Thanks, Tood. ... What I don't get though what Callingmart gets out of this. But
> hey, I'm not complaining. ;-)


(a) Callingmart gets those PINs at discount from face value (so: spread);
(b) some portion of PINs sold never do get used (lost, forgotten, mislaid),
and after a year they're without further value (split w/ Page Plus, maybe).

'Zat help any? Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:42 AM
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On 5/6/2012 8:04 PM, tlvp wrote:
>> Thanks, Tood. ... What I don't get though what Callingmart gets out of this. But
>> hey, I'm not complaining. ;-)

>
> (a) Callingmart gets those PINs at discount from face value (so: spread);
> (b) some portion of PINs sold never do get used (lost, forgotten, mislaid),
> and after a year they're without further value (split w/ Page Plus, maybe).


Oh, I see.

> 'Zat help any? Cheers, -- tlvp


It does indeed, 'zenk you.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:14 AM
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At 06 May 2012 19:16:04 -0700 cameo wrote:
> On 5/6/2012 5:31 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> > The Callingmart PIN is a "refill card". Select that option and follow

the
> > prompts.

>
> Thanks, Tood. Now that you told me, I realized that an even simpler
> method was to youe the phone's MyAccount app to do it. It worked like a
> charm. What I don't get though what Callingmart gets out of this. But
> hey, I'm not complaining. ;-)


Depending on the carrier, and volume purchased, resellers pay 85%-90% of
face value for cellular prepaid cards (at least those were the numbers
back when I was in the biz.) That leaves them a little wiggle room to
offer a slight discount and still make a profit.

A "win-win" as they say...


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Old 05-08-2012, 04:47 AM
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On 05/06/2012 05:45 PM, cameo wrote:

> However, when I called up that *TOGO number, T-Mo present me only
> payment options with credit, debit, or refill cards and I had no idea
> which would lead me to enter Callingmart's PIN mumber. Can you help me
> out with this one?


Refill. You punch in the numbers.

In the future you can have it loaded directly to your phone num for you
so you don't have to do any of that.

I mentioned CM since they are the darling at the HowardForums phone
forums, and I have personal good experience with them. There are many
others similar.

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Old 05-09-2012, 06:24 AM
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On 5/7/2012 9:47 PM, Frater Mus wrote:
> Refill. You punch in the numbers.
>
> In the future you can have it loaded directly to your phone num for you
> so you don't have to do any of that.
>
> I mentioned CM since they are the darling at the HowardForums phone
> forums, and I have personal good experience with them. There are many
> others similar.


And after I understood what that PIN number was for, I have to agree
with their experiences as well. So that's what I'll be using in the
future. Coincidently, I've just noticed that T-Mo introduced a new app
for prepaid users to ease refills. However, I doubt it would be as cheap
as CM.

<http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/t-mobile-introduce-refill-prepaid-account-management-android-app/>



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Old 05-09-2012, 09:02 AM
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 22:21:31 -0500, Frater Mus
<nntp2012.fratermus@spamgourmet.net> wrote:

>On 05/05/2012 02:52 AM, cameo wrote:
>
>> Here in WA state they only add sales tax to the $30 prepaid charge while
>> postpaid plans are loaded with all kinds state and federal charges that
>> amount to significant part of the total bill. So I also bought my Amaze

>
>And loading funds through a vendor like callingmart gets around even
>that tax. I had it load directly to my number; worked great.
>
>


Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax and costs the
same as CalingMart. I just add $30 each month for my prepaid plan.

>> 4G outright and I am on that Walmart plan, though I got it directly from
>> T-Mo online. You can't find a better deal than that if you don't call
>> more than 100 minutes a month. Heck, I don't even call 10 minutes with
>> it because I also have a landline phone.

>
>
>Yeah, I used less than 10mins/month because I was always on wifi (GrooVe
>IP) or near a landline.


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Old 05-09-2012, 05:22 PM
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In news:scckq79spm9eu28l8efgnucqgfslle4fvh@4ax.com nobody@nada.com
wrote:

> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax


Eh? I get hit with sales tax every time I buy pre-paid time that way.

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Old 05-09-2012, 05:26 PM
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In <XnsA04E7DEA85489VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140> Bert <bert@iphouse.com> writes:

>In news:scckq79spm9eu28l8efgnucqgfslle4fvh@4ax.com nobody@nada.com
>wrote:


>> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax


>Eh? I get hit with sales tax every time I buy pre-paid time that way.


Probably a State by State issue. While t-mobile is "operating"
in every state, they might only be charging sales tax on
internet orders in a few of them.

- Amazon charges in the half dozen or so where they both have
a physical business presence such as a warehouse, and in
which the State mandates it.

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Old 05-09-2012, 05:49 PM
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On 09 May 2012 17:22:41 GMT, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

>In news:scckq79spm9eu28l8efgnucqgfslle4fvh@4ax.com nobody@nada.com
>wrote:
>
>> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax

>
>Eh? I get hit with sales tax every time I buy pre-paid time that way.


I just double checked my credit card bill and there is no tax.

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Old 05-09-2012, 07:07 PM
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On 5/9/2012 10:22 AM, Bert wrote:
>> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax

>
> Eh? I get hit with sales tax every time I buy pre-paid time that way.


So do I.



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Old 05-12-2012, 04:49 AM
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On 05/09/2012 04:02 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax and costs the
> same as CalingMart. I just add $30 each month for my prepaid plan.


I get charged tax from TMO, and AFAIK they don't discount 5% the way CM
does consistently. Used to be 7-10%, but the margins changed in the
last 6mos or so.


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Old 05-15-2012, 02:15 AM
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On Fri, 11 May 2012 23:49:09 -0500, Frater Mus
<nntp2012.fratermus@spamgourmet.net> wrote:

>On 05/09/2012 04:02 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax and costs the
>> same as CalingMart. I just add $30 each month for my prepaid plan.

>
>I get charged tax from TMO, and AFAIK they don't discount 5% the way CM
>does consistently. Used to be 7-10%, but the margins changed in the
>last 6mos or so.


There must be some rule for determining whether T-Mobile charges tax.
My credit card shows a charge of exactly $30. I can't imagine it's the
state you are in because I'm in California and they never miss an
opportunity to take tax money.

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Old 05-15-2012, 05:28 AM
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In the last episode of <5te3r79df1pvcmaoilt2m71153qcac168l@4ax.com>,
nobody@nada.com said:

>On Fri, 11 May 2012 23:49:09 -0500, Frater Mus
><nntp2012.fratermus@spamgourmet.net> wrote:
>
>>On 05/09/2012 04:02 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>
>>> Going directly through T-Mobile's website charges no tax and costs the
>>> same as CalingMart. I just add $30 each month for my prepaid plan.

>>
>>I get charged tax from TMO, and AFAIK they don't discount 5% the way CM
>>does consistently. Used to be 7-10%, but the margins changed in the
>>last 6mos or so.

>
>There must be some rule for determining whether T-Mobile charges tax.


State legislation.

>My credit card shows a charge of exactly $30. I can't imagine it's the
>state you are in because I'm in California and they never miss an
>opportunity to take tax money.


If T-Mobile isn't a corporate entity in California, then they don't have
to pay California's taxes. As a citizen, you are technically supposed to
claim and pay the tax yourself, but as you can imagine, it seems to slip
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:57 PM
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On 5/14/2012 10:28 PM, DevilsPGD wrote:

> As a citizen, you are technically supposed to
> claim and pay the tax yourself, but as you can imagine, it seems to slip
> the mind of most people.


Not just slipped, but even the legislators must not have taken it very
seriously by not making the payment of self-paid sales tax as simple as
paying it at the cash register. How many people would even know how to
pay that sales tax directly, not to mention whether they would even want to?



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Old 05-15-2012, 08:19 PM
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cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

> On 5/14/2012 10:28 PM, DevilsPGD wrote:
>
>> As a citizen, you are technically supposed to
>> claim and pay the tax yourself, but as you can imagine, it seems
>> to slip the mind of most people.

>
> Not just slipped, but even the legislators must not have taken it
> very seriously by not making the payment of self-paid sales tax as
> simple as paying it at the cash register. How many people would
> even know how to pay that sales tax directly, not to mention
> whether they would even want to?


Arizona added a box to this year's state income tax form, you check it
if you've purchesed stuff on the internet and then it opens a form to
fill out and calculate the tax.

I don't know if anyone has checked the box or not.....

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Old 05-15-2012, 08:21 PM
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XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:


> check it if you've purchesed stuff


Maybe I meant "purchased", who knows?


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Old 05-16-2012, 12:03 AM
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On 5/15/2012 1:19 PM, XS11E wrote:
> Arizona added a box to this year's state income tax form, you check it
> if you've purchesed stuff on the internet and then it opens a form to
> fill out and calculate the tax.
>
> I don't know if anyone has checked the box or not.....


But how many people want to be burdened with keeping records of all
their on-line purchases? Oh, maybe those few billioners who want to pay
more taxes than what they owe now. But then, they can afford their own
been counters.


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Old 05-16-2012, 12:54 AM
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On 05/15/12 08:03 pm, cameo wrote:

>> if you've purchesed stuff on the internet and then it opens a form to
>> fill out and calculate the tax.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone has checked the box or not.....

>
> But how many people want to be burdened with keeping records of all
> their on-line purchases? Oh, maybe those few billioners who want to pay
> more taxes than what they owe now. But then, they can afford their own
> been counters.


Michigan has had the "Use Tax" thing on its income tax forms for as long
as we've lived here. Items more than $1000 are supposed to be itemized;
if you don't have receipts for the lesser items, TurboTax estimates an
amount based on income.

Perce

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:17 AM
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:03:59 -0700, cameo wrote:

> ... they can afford their own
> been counters.


Those are the folks you hire to check off the "been there done that" boxes?
And keep count on 'em? Me, I never could afford one, always did it myself.

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:07 AM
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cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

> On 5/15/2012 1:19 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> Arizona added a box to this year's state income tax form, you
>> check it if you've purchesed stuff on the internet and then it
>> opens a form to fill out and calculate the tax.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone has checked the box or not.....

>
> But how many people want to be burdened with keeping records of
> all their on-line purchases?


Probably those who don't want to spend time in prison? <G>


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Old 05-16-2012, 07:44 AM
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On 5/15/2012 5:54 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> Michigan has had the "Use Tax" thing on its income tax forms for as long
> as we've lived here. Items more than $1000 are supposed to be itemized;
> if you don't have receipts for the lesser items, TurboTax estimates an
> amount based on income.


Fortunately I live in a state without state income tax and we don't
file anything for sales tax.


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Old 05-16-2012, 07:46 AM
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On 5/15/2012 6:17 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:03:59 -0700, cameo wrote:
>
>> ... they can afford their own
>> been counters.

>
> Those are the folks you hire to check off the "been there done that" boxes?
> And keep count on 'em? Me, I never could afford one, always did it myself.


Good one! I haven't noticed it till now. ;-)


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Old 05-16-2012, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: T-Mobile officially adds Prism to its budget lineup on May 6thfor $20

On 5/15/2012 8:03 PM, cameo wrote:
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> But how many people want to be burdened with keeping records of all
> their on-line purchases? Oh, maybe those few billioners who want to pay
> more taxes than what they owe now. But then, they can afford their own
> been counters.
>


The use tax is owed regardless of whether you pay it.

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