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Old 06-23-2011, 07:43 AM
Cameo
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Default SIM card portability

In a T-Mo related web forum some guys who just got the new HTC Sensation
4G phone complained that they could not get 4G speeds and good data
connectivity using their old SIM cards. The solution was a new SIM card.
Is this something that is to be expected when upgrading phones and
wanting to keep the old SIM card in the new one? Does this also mean
that one would also have to get a new phone number then?


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Old 06-23-2011, 08:29 AM
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At 23 Jun 2011 00:43:18 -0700 Cameo wrote:
> In a T-Mo related web forum some guys who just got the new HTC
> Sensation 4G phone complained that they could not get 4G speeds and
> good data connectivity using their old SIM cards. The solution was a
> new SIM card. Is this something that is to be expected when upgrading
> phones and wanting to keep the old SIM card in the new one? Does this
> also mean that one would also have to get a new phone number then?
>


No, T-Mobile moves the old number to the new SIM.


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Old 06-23-2011, 09:57 AM
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In <ituu2c$o30$1@dont-email.me> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> writes:

>At 23 Jun 2011 00:43:18 -0700 Cameo wrote:
>> In a T-Mo related web forum some guys who just got the new HTC
>> Sensation 4G phone complained that they could not get 4G speeds and
>> good data connectivity using their old SIM cards. The solution was a
>> new SIM card. Is this something that is to be expected when upgrading
>> phones and wanting to keep the old SIM card in the new one? Does this
>> also mean that one would also have to get a new phone number then?


>No, T-Mobile moves the old number to the new SIM.


And if you need them to, they'll also copy all the
phone numbers you've got stored on the old card over
to the new one.


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Old 06-23-2011, 06:14 PM
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"danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
> And if you need them to, they'll also copy all the
> phone numbers you've got stored on the old card over
> to the new one.


How do they do that? In the T-Mobile stores? What if you get your phone
from a 3rd party vendor, like Amazon or Costco?

Anyway, what is really the difference between the old and new SIM cards?


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Old 06-23-2011, 08:12 PM
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>> And if you need them to, they'll also copy all the
>> phone numbers you've got stored on the old card over to the new
>> one.

>
> How do they do that? In the T-Mobile stores?


Yes.

> What if you get your phone from a 3rd party vendor, like Amazon or
> Costco?


A. They can probably do it for you.
B. If not, the T-Mo store will.
C. You can buy a CIM card reader and do it yourself, check Ebay.
D. You can copy your SIM card to the phone, insert the new SIM and
copy your contacts back to the new SIM card.

> Anyway, what is really the difference between the old and new SIM
> cards?


None that I know of, maybe the OP had an odd SIM? I get 4g speeds
using my old SIM, I think, 4G is so rare around here I seldom see
it.

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Old 06-24-2011, 12:44 AM
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9F0D866AA9B9Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
> C. You can buy a CIM card reader and do it yourself, check Ebay.
> D. You can copy your SIM card to the phone, insert the new SIM and
> copy your contacts back to the new SIM card.


The new phones have a capability to copy all phone numbers in the SIM to
the phone and vice versa or you mean copying one number at a time?

My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy with the Phone
Tools from Motorola. That requires connecting the phone to the PC with a
special cable.


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Old 06-24-2011, 01:20 AM
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:44:24 -0400, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F0D866AA9B9Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
>> C. You can buy a CIM card reader and do it yourself, check Ebay.
>> D. You can copy your SIM card to the phone, insert the new SIM and
>> copy your contacts back to the new SIM card.

>
> The new phones have a capability to copy all phone numbers in the SIM to
> the phone and vice versa or you mean copying one number at a time?
>
> My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy with the Phone
> Tools from Motorola. That requires connecting the phone to the PC with a
> special cable.


And even that would have been a two-shot copy, wouldn't it?
Once from SIM to PC, and then another from PC to phone.

And another two to get 'em all onto the new SIM.

Easier to skip the two middle steps (PC-to-phone and phone-to-PC) entirely,
I suppose, and do just: once from SIM to PC, and then from PC to new SIM.

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Old 06-24-2011, 04:23 PM
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

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> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F0D866AA9B9Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...


> The new phones have a capability to copy all phone numbers in the
> SIM to the phone and vice versa or you mean copying one number at
> a time?


All at once, to avoid concern over T-Mo being willing to copy on an Ebay phone just copy all contacts on old SIM to old phone,
insert new SIM into old phone, copy all contacts from old phone to new SIM, then insert new SIM into new phone, easy.

> My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy with the
> Phone Tools from Motorola. That requires connecting the phone to
> the PC with a special cable.


Then copy to PC and connect new phone and copy from PC to it.

My contacts are kept in Outlook and I use MyPhoneExplorer for Android phones, R.I.M.'s desktop software for BBs and Windows
Mobile Device Center for Windows phones. I'm sure there's similar software for other phones.

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Old 06-24-2011, 04:26 PM
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tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Easier to skip the two middle steps (PC-to-phone and phone-to-PC)
> entirely, I suppose, and do just: once from SIM to PC, and then
> from PC to new SIM.


Wouldn't that require a SIM reader? They're cheap enough but I'm
not sure they're worth any cost for a one time use?



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Old 06-24-2011, 06:44 PM
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"tlvp" <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newsp.vxj3cwvqitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net.. .
> And even that would have been a two-shot copy, wouldn't it?
> Once from SIM to PC, and then another from PC to phone.
>
> And another two to get 'em all onto the new SIM.


Technically true, but what I meant is a "batch" copy process, instead of
the boring one number at a time.

> Easier to skip the two middle steps (PC-to-phone and phone-to-PC)
> entirely,
> I suppose, and do just: once from SIM to PC, and then from PC to new
> SIM.


OK, I agree that would be the best. I just wasn't aware that the phone
itself has the capability to transfer all phone number to the SIM card
back and fro as a batch op.


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Old 06-24-2011, 06:46 PM
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy with the
>> Phone Tools from Motorola. That requires connecting the phone to
>> the PC with a special cable.

>
> Then copy to PC and connect new phone and copy from PC to it.


The Motorola Phone Tools only works with Moto phones.



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Old 06-24-2011, 06:50 PM
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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F0E5F91AD029xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
>
>>> My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy with the
>>> Phone Tools from Motorola. That requires connecting the phone to
>>> the PC with a special cable.

>>
>> Then copy to PC and connect new phone and copy from PC to it.

>
> The Motorola Phone Tools only works with Moto phones.


That's all you need to move your contacts to your PC if your old
phone is a Moto phone, there's dozens of tools that will work with
other phones as I listed in the part you snipped, once your contacts
list is on the PC you can move it to your new phone using whatever
specific tool works with your new phone.

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Old 06-24-2011, 11:44 PM
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:26:29 -0400, XS11E <xs11eNO@spamyahoo.com> wrote:

> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Easier to skip the two middle steps (PC-to-phone and phone-to-PC)
>> entirely, I suppose, and do just: once from SIM to PC, and then
>> from PC to new SIM.

>
> Wouldn't that require a SIM reader? They're cheap enough but I'm
> not sure they're worth any cost for a one time use?


In general, yes. But I was only responding in the context Cameo envisioned:

| My old Motorola phone could only use the one-shot copy
| with the Phone Tools from Motorola. That requires
| connecting the phone to the PC with a special cable.

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Old 06-25-2011, 06:34 PM
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> That's all you need to move your contacts to your PC if your old
> phone is a Moto phone, there's dozens of tools that will work with
> other phones as I listed in the part you snipped, once your contacts
> list is on the PC you can move it to your new phone using whatever
> specific tool works with your new phone.


Now you're talking. That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks.

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