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Old 03-20-2011, 07:13 PM
danny burstein
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Default T-Mobile selling off to AT&T

[press release]

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...utsche-Telekom

Dallas and Bonn, Germany (Business Wire)- AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) and Deutsche
Telekom AG (FWB: DTE) today announced that they have entered into a
definitive agreement under which AT&T will acquire T-Mobile USA from
Deutsche Telekom in a cash-and-stock transaction currently valued at
approximately $39 billion. The agreement has been approved by the Boards
of Directors of both companies.

[snip]
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:44 PM
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danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> [press release]
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...en/ATT-Acquire
> -T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom


As a public service, I'll translate:

T-Mobile users = WOW are you going to get SCREWED!

AT&T users = We're already screwing you but we'll increase the amount
of screwing you're getting.

T-Mobile Customer Service People, you'll either be terminated or re-
trained to answer, "Tell somone who gives a rat's rear end!" to any
question. AT&T Customer Service People already know how to do this.



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Old 03-20-2011, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: T-Mobile selling off to AT&T

Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big news
for everyone.

In article <Xns9EAE818AEEEEDxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>,
xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com says...

> > [press release]
> >
> > http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...en/ATT-Acquire
> > -T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom

>
> As a public service, I'll translate:
>
> T-Mobile users = WOW are you going to get SCREWED!
>
> AT&T users = We're already screwing you but we'll increase the amount
> of screwing you're getting.
>
> T-Mobile Customer Service People, you'll either be terminated or re-
> trained to answer, "Tell somone who gives a rat's rear end!" to any
> question. AT&T Customer Service People already know how to do this.


I can look forward to higher prices and no customer service.

Yay.

Through the years, I've used all of the big guys except
AT&T/Cingular/SBC and pre-merger AirTouch. There's a reason I stayed
away from AT&T. When I lived in Ohio, they proved they'd do anything to
steal money from the consumer. I'm sure y'all have already heard about
my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.

I've been totally AT&T-free since moving to California; my cell phone
service has been with VZW/Sprint/T-Mobile (depending on which time
period you're talking about) and my landline/TV/Internet were with
Charter Cable for several years, and right now I'm using Verizon FiOS.

Now, this.

Dammit.

The only good thing I can see coming out of this: T-Mo has been rather
slow to improve their data coverage up here in the desert. AT&T already
had the dominant GSM network, and they probably already have HSPA+ up
here.

It may be time to flip to MetroPCS.



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Old 03-20-2011, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: T-Mobile selling off to AT&T

On Mar 20, 3:25*pm, Steve Sobol <sjso...@JustThe.net> wrote:
> Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big news
> for everyone.
>
> In article <Xns9EAE818AEEEEDxs11eyahoo...@127.0.0.1>,
> xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com says...
>
> > > [press release]

>
> > >http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...en/ATT-Acquire
> > > -T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom

>
> > As a public service, I'll translate:

>
> > T-Mobile users = WOW are you going to get SCREWED!

>
> > AT&T users = We're already screwing you but we'll increase the amount
> > of screwing you're getting.

>
> > T-Mobile Customer Service People, you'll either be terminated or re-
> > trained to answer, "Tell somone who gives a rat's rear end!" to any
> > question. *AT&T Customer Service People already know how to do this.

>
> I can look forward to higher prices and no customer service.
>
> Yay.
>
> Through the years, I've used all of the big guys except
> AT&T/Cingular/SBC and pre-merger AirTouch. There's a reason I stayed
> away from AT&T. When I lived in Ohio, they proved they'd do anything to
> steal money from the consumer. I'm sure y'all have already heard about
> my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.
>
> I've been totally AT&T-free since moving to California; my cell phone
> service has been with VZW/Sprint/T-Mobile


So much for the rumored Sprint move on T-mob. Lucky T-mob users just
missed out on years of double billing for data and customer service in
Calcutta hanging up on you.

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Old 03-20-2011, 09:37 PM
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On 3/20/2011 12:13 PM, danny burstein wrote:

Can you imagine the US antitrust authorities allowing this acquisition?

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Old 03-20-2011, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: T-Mobile selling off to AT&T

At 20 Mar 2011 13:25:59 -0700 Steve Sobol wrote:
> Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big

news
> for everyone.
>
> In article <Xns9EAE818AEEEEDxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>,
> xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com says...
>
> > > [press release]
> > >
> > > http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...en/ATT-Acquire
> > > -T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom

> >
> > As a public service, I'll translate:
> >
> > T-Mobile users = WOW are you going to get SCREWED!
> >
> > AT&T users = We're already screwing you but we'll increase the amount
> > of screwing you're getting.
> >
> > T-Mobile Customer Service People, you'll either be terminated or re-
> > trained to answer, "Tell somone who gives a rat's rear end!" to any
> > question. AT&T Customer Service People already know how to do this.

>
> I can look forward to higher prices and no customer service.
>
> Yay.
>
> Through the years, I've used all of the big guys except
> AT&T/Cingular/SBC and pre-merger AirTouch. There's a reason I stayed
> away from AT&T. When I lived in Ohio, they proved they'd do anything to
> steal money from the consumer. I'm sure y'all have already heard about
> my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.
>
> I've been totally AT&T-free since moving to California; my cell phone
> service has been with VZW/Sprint/T-Mobile (depending on which time
> period you're talking about) and my landline/TV/Internet were with
> Charter Cable for several years, and right now I'm using Verizon FiOS.
>
> Now, this.
>
> Dammit.
>
> The only good thing I can see coming out of this: T-Mo has been rather
> slow to improve their data coverage up here in the desert. AT&T already
> had the dominant GSM network, and they probably already have HSPA+ up
> here.
>
> It may be time to flip to MetroPCS.



I've been with T-Mo since October 2001, and contract free since April 2006.


I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for two years
to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to it, plus scoring
whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure keeping my plan at least
for a while post takeover. IIRC, when Cingular absorbed the old ATTWS
creating the "new" AT&T Wireless, they started dismantling the old ATTWS
grandfathered plans before too long.


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Old 03-20-2011, 09:43 PM
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In <4d86738c$0$10519$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> writes:

>On 3/20/2011 12:13 PM, danny burstein wrote:


>Can you imagine the US antitrust authorities allowing this acquisition?


The same US gov't that has an FCC/FTC that's been letting "Rachel
of Card Services" go on for two years? That has an SEC where
a half dozen investigators gave Madoff a pass?

Thanks. I needed a laugh after hearing the news...


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Old 03-20-2011, 10:12 PM
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In article <65f177ad-7411-4767-966b-1a264f9c7875
@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, JG says...


> So much for the rumored Sprint move on T-mob. Lucky T-mob users just
> missed out on years of double billing for data and customer service in
> Calcutta hanging up on you.


As someone who gets paid to support technology users, I have a major
philosophical problem with outsourced, overseas call centers. If you're
going to outsource, there are places IN THE US where people can work for
less than in the major cities, and still make a living wage.

Having said that... T-Mo uses outsourced CS in certain cases (although
not always) - but at least T-Mo's outsourced CS reps are friendly,
trained well and empowered to take care of the customer.

An old friend gave me a Sprint phone back in 2000, and I put my (then-)
girlfriend on that phone. So, she used Sprint, I used Verizon. Then,
after Verizon pissed me off in 2004, I jumped ship to Sprint too.

I think it was about six months afterwards that the merger kicked in.
Until then, customer service had been fair to good... the problem with
Sprint's customer service wasn't so much that they were outsourced;
rather, the new CS reps were ignorant jackasses who would say anything
just to get you off the phone.

So, in 2005, my wife and I flipped to T-Mo.


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Old 03-20-2011, 10:14 PM
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In article <im5seu$s4c$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Todd Allcock
says...

>
> I've been with T-Mo since October 2001, and contract free since April 2006.
>
>
> I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for two years
> to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to it, plus scoring
> whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure keeping my plan at least
> for a while post takeover. IIRC, when Cingular absorbed the old ATTWS
> creating the "new" AT&T Wireless, they started dismantling the old ATTWS
> grandfathered plans before too long.



Well, both of my phones are on contracts. I'm ok.

My (now ex-)wife's aren't, but I don't know if it's as much of an issue
for her; she and my oldest daughter aren't using plans that are likely
to be dropped. Neither is my son, actually.

I, on the other hand, have a really great plan that AT&T probably will
not keep. But, I'm under contract, so I'm not really concerned about
that. Changes in the number of minutes or the amount of data I can use
are *material* changes, and if they start playing that game, I walk
without having to pay an ETF.


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Old 03-20-2011, 10:24 PM
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In article <8unacaF4hoU1@mid.individual.net>, Anthony Atkielski says...

> On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:25:59 -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
>
> > I'm sure y'all have already heard about
> > my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.

>
> I have it memorized.
>
> *NOT*


I don't recognize your name, maybe you haven't heard it

AT&T (back then, they were SBC Ameritech) placed a bridge tap on my
line. This is a screwup on their part. It was a copper loop that was
misplaced and generated so much noise that I couldn't get my DSL to
sync, modem connections were not possible at anything more than 9600
bps, and there was a ton of static on voice calls. With two small kids,
I'm lucky I didn't have to call 911 during those two months.

They took a month or two to fix everything. During that time, they sent
all of their Cleveland repair teams to Toledo to fix downed phone lines
during a big snowstorm. My problem with that? Toledo's a fraction of the
size of Cleveland. It wasn't NECESSARY to send everyone there. (Idiots.)

anyhow, we finally got things fixed, and then they told us that,
although we'd paid about $180 for two months of service we didn't
receive, we could only get a credit of $5 because we weren't without
dialtone.

Technically, this was true; we had dialtone, but the phones and DSL were
unusable.

So I disputed the entire bill, and sent the Ohio Public Utilities
Commission after them. PUCO was actually pretty awesome. They responded
quickly, and repeatedly kicked the asses of several people in upper
management until they issued a full credit.

The best thing was the repeated collections calls, during which I
reminded AT&T's collections morons that they aren't allowed to take
action on any dollar amount in dispute. I don't recall whether this is
an FCC rule, or an FTC rule that is part of the federal Fair Debt
Collection Practices Act. It's one or the other.

At one point, an AT&T billing rep actually said that it seemed that AT&T
would rather get spanked by state regulators than do the right thing on
their own. I totally believe that. I believe AT&T is that stupid/evil.


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Old 03-20-2011, 10:37 PM
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:25:59 -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:

> I'm sure y'all have already heard about
> my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.


I have it memorized.

*NOT*

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:37 PM
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In article <4d86738c$0$10519$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS says...
>
> On 3/20/2011 12:13 PM, danny burstein wrote:
>
> Can you imagine the US antitrust authorities allowing this acquisition?


Sure, and they'll allow Verizon+Sprint too.

Mark my words: It's gonna happen.

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:43 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>> Through the years, I've used all of the big guys except
>> AT&T/Cingular/SBC and pre-merger AirTouch.


I started with AirTouch, never had a problem with 'em. When they
became Verizon I went with VZW and had very few problems but finally
switched to T-Mo because they were the ONLY carrier that offered
coverage where I needed it. (NOTE: if you don't know, don't ask, I've
reported my reasons along with the areas VZW couldn't cover many times
so just read back awhile....)

> I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for
> two years to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to
> it, plus scoring whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure
> keeping my plan at least for a while post takeover.


I don't know what to do, I'm on a month to month also. I hate to go to
a contract because I don't really want another phone and and who knows
what will happen in two years?

I may just go back to VZW and live with the no coverage problem but I
hate to give up UMA and/or WiFi Calling. (NOTE: Skype, et al, are
useless to me so please don't sugget it.)

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:44 PM
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On 03/20/11 03:13 pm, danny burstein wrote:
> [press release]
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...utsche-Telekom
>
>
> Dallas and Bonn, Germany (Business Wire)- AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) and
> Deutsche Telekom AG (FWB: DTE) today announced that they have entered
> into a definitive agreement under which AT&T will acquire T-Mobile USA
> from Deutsche Telekom in a cash-and-stock transaction currently valued
> at approximately $39 billion. The agreement has been approved by the
> Boards of Directors of both companies.


We have a T-Mo plan that is no longer offered, but we have been able to
renew it for two periods of 2 years each: two lines with 400 shared
minutes (which we never use to the full) for $50/mo, $10/mo for an
additional line for our son, and $10/mo for T-Mobile@Home (no longer
offered, but we can keep it as long as we want). Our current contract is
up next month, so maybe we should renew for another two years (if it's
not too late already) in the hope that we won't get messed around too
much in the immediate future.

Perce

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:57 PM
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In <Xns9EAE9FF32E2ACxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1> XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> writes:

>I don't know what to do, I'm on a month to month also. I hate to go to
>a contract because I don't really want another phone and and who knows
>what will happen in two years?


Last time I dealt with this issue, I told them I didn't
want a new phone. They offered me the "six month free"
if I signed up for two years.

And amazingly, when the bill come for month #6, it
was for zero t-mobile charges. Still had all the
various taxes and non tax taxes and "we're pretending
this is a tax even though we get the money" fees, though.

Hmm, might be time to try that again.

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Old 03-20-2011, 11:12 PM
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At 20 Mar 2011 15:14:57 -0700 Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <im5seu$s4c$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Todd Allcock
> says...
>
> >
> > I've been with T-Mo since October 2001, and contract free since April

2006.
> >
> >
> > I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for two

years
> > to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to it, plus

scoring
> > whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure keeping my plan at

least
> > for a while post takeover. IIRC, when Cingular absorbed the old ATTWS
> > creating the "new" AT&T Wireless, they started dismantling the old

ATTWS
> > grandfathered plans before too long.

>
>
> Well, both of my phones are on contracts. I'm ok.
>
> My (now ex-)wife's aren't, but I don't know if it's as much of an issue
> for her; she and my oldest daughter aren't using plans that are likely
> to be dropped. Neither is my son, actually.
>
> I, on the other hand, have a really great plan that AT&T probably will
> not keep. But, I'm under contract, so I'm not really concerned about
> that. Changes in the number of minutes or the amount of data I can use
> are *material* changes, and if they start playing that game, I walk
> without having to pay an ETF.
>


Let's hope. When Cingular converted their TDMA network to GSM, they
slimed the customers who refused to switch with a $5 month "legacy
technology" fee or somesuch, presumably to avoid making a material change
in the plan itself. I can easily see a "legacy billing system" fee in
our futures, waived if we just switch to current AT&T plan...



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Old 03-21-2011, 12:53 AM
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danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> In <Xns9EAE9FF32E2ACxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1> XS11E
> <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> writes:
>
>>I don't know what to do, I'm on a month to month also. I hate to
>>go to a contract because I don't really want another phone and and
>>who knows what will happen in two years?

>
> Last time I dealt with this issue, I told them I didn't
> want a new phone. They offered me the "six month free"
> if I signed up for two years.
>
> And amazingly, when the bill come for month #6, it
> was for zero t-mobile charges. Still had all the
> various taxes and non tax taxes and "we're pretending
> this is a tax even though we get the money" fees, though.
>
> Hmm, might be time to try that again.


Thanks for the tip! It's worth a try.



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Old 03-21-2011, 02:04 AM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for two
> years
> to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to it, plus
> scoring
> whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure keeping my plan at
> least
> for a while post takeover. IIRC, when Cingular absorbed the old ATTWS
> creating the "new" AT&T Wireless, they started dismantling the old
> ATTWS
> grandfathered plans before too long.


I am thinking the same thing, hoping for a grandfather clause. For new
phone I might go for a Motorola model as only Moto seems to have T-Mo
phones with the 850 WCDMA band which is common on AT&T network.

This AT&T / T-Mo deal struck me as the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939
must have struck the contemporaries. It was well camouflaged with that
canard about the T-Mo - Sprint merger buzz.


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Old 03-21-2011, 02:37 AM
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"JG" <jgrove24@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:65f177ad-7411-4767-966b-1a264f9c7875@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 20, 3:25 pm, Steve Sobol <sjso...@JustThe.net> wrote:
> Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big news
> for everyone.
>
> In article <Xns9EAE818AEEEEDxs11eyahoo...@127.0.0.1>,
> xs11...@SPAMyahoo.com says...
>
> > > [press release]

>
> > >http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...en/ATT-Acquire
> > > -T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom

>
> > As a public service, I'll translate:

>
> > T-Mobile users = WOW are you going to get SCREWED!

>
> > AT&T users = We're already screwing you but we'll increase the amount
> > of screwing you're getting.

>
> > T-Mobile Customer Service People, you'll either be terminated or re-
> > trained to answer, "Tell somone who gives a rat's rear end!" to any
> > question. AT&T Customer Service People already know how to do this.

>
> I can look forward to higher prices and no customer service.
>
> Yay.
>
> Through the years, I've used all of the big guys except
> AT&T/Cingular/SBC and pre-merger AirTouch. There's a reason I stayed
> away from AT&T. When I lived in Ohio, they proved they'd do anything to
> steal money from the consumer. I'm sure y'all have already heard about
> my little fiasco with AT&T DSL.
>
> I've been totally AT&T-free since moving to California; my cell phone
> service has been with VZW/Sprint/T-Mobile


So much for the rumored Sprint move on T-mob. Lucky T-mob users just
missed out on years of double billing for data and customer service in
Calcutta hanging up on you.

*********************

Yeppers. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em...or, more accurately, buy 'em.

Imagine the investment in both time and money necessary to gain the same
number of new customers competitively, by offering a "better" product? If
the answer is multiple choice, one of the choices would have to be...Never.

If approved, AT&T vaults to the #1 spot. One thing for sure, providing a
better "customer experience" was not a major factor in the decision. Watch
for Verizon to buy Sprint sooner rather than later.




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Old 03-21-2011, 03:00 AM
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"Krazee Brenda" <brendaroguska@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
> with T-Mobile?


No. They would have to honor existing contracts.

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Old 03-21-2011, 03:11 AM
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I started with AirTouch, never had a problem with 'em. When they
> became Verizon I went with VZW and had very few problems but finally
> switched to T-Mo because they were the ONLY carrier that offered
> coverage where I needed it. (NOTE: if you don't know, don't ask, I've
> reported my reasons along with the areas VZW couldn't cover many times
> so just read back awhile....)


I remember AirTouch very well from around mid-'90s. By the way, I wonder
what will the merged ATT and T-Mo do with their towers that are adjacent
to each other? They would become redundant.


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Old 03-21-2011, 03:19 AM
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:04:42 -0700, Cameo wrote:

> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>> I'm actually considering calling T-Mo tomorrow and renewing for two
>> years
>> to preserve my grandfathered plan, and adding a line to it, plus
>> scoring
>> whatever deals they'll give me, so I can insure keeping my plan at
>> least
>> for a while post takeover. IIRC, when Cingular absorbed the old ATTWS
>> creating the "new" AT&T Wireless, they started dismantling the old
>> ATTWS
>> grandfathered plans before too long.

>
> I am thinking the same thing, hoping for a grandfather clause. For new
> phone I might go for a Motorola model as only Moto seems to have T-Mo
> phones with the 850 WCDMA band which is common on AT&T network.


Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
with T-Mobile?

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Old 03-21-2011, 04:42 AM
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At 20 Mar 2011 22:57:26 +0000 danny burstein wrote:
> In <Xns9EAE9FF32E2ACxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1> XS11E

<xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> writes:
>
> >I don't know what to do, I'm on a month to month also. I hate to go

to
> >a contract because I don't really want another phone and and who knows
> >what will happen in two years?

>
> Last time I dealt with this issue, I told them I didn't
> want a new phone. They offered me the "six month free"
> if I signed up for two years.
>
> And amazingly, when the bill come for month #6, it
> was for zero t-mobile charges. Still had all the
> various taxes and non tax taxes and "we're pretending
> this is a tax even though we get the money" fees, though.
>
> Hmm, might be time to try that again.


So, in lieu of hardware they gave you only one month of free service, and
not even up front?

The last time I signed a contract with T-Mo was in 2005. I wanted a
smartphone they didn't have in stock (a T-Mobile MDA) so I managed to
negotiate a $200 immediate credit on my bill in return for a one-year
contract so I could buy the phone at full price ($450) from a local
independent dealer and my net cost would be the same $250 T-Mobile.com
was charging. (That deal took three phone calls and two supervisors to
negotiate.)

I'm not suggesting I have any super negotiating skills- just a deep sense
of justice. T-Mo screwed up my account after a phone number change a few
days before, making it look to independent dealers accessing T-Mo's system,
like my account was only three days old! (This was after specifically
asking during the number change process if the change would screw up my
ability to upgrade, and being assured it wouldn't!)

This, of course, prevented me from upgrading hardware anywhere but T-Mo
corporate, who was out of MDAs with no ETA when they'd be back in stock.
After calling every indie in the area and finding _one_ with an MDA in
stock, I proposed the deal to T-Mo CS that they eventually agreed to
after a few calls.



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Old 03-21-2011, 04:49 AM
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At 20 Mar 2011 13:25:59 -0700 Steve Sobol wrote:
> Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big

news
> for everyone.





I just thought of a possible consequence of an AT&T (neé Cingular)
acquisition of T-Mo that's too horrible to contemplate...

....John Navas might start posting his Cingular FAQs in alt.cellular.t-
mobile as well! :-0





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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:00:43 -0700, Cameo wrote:

> "Krazee Brenda" <brendaroguska@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
>> with T-Mobile?

>
> No. They would have to honor existing contracts.


Thanks. May I suggest one way to limit minutes and SMS is to get a
Google Voice number? I have had one for three years running, free, and
it has worked very well. Free SMS, free incoming and outgoing control,
voicemail transcriptions, etc......
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In article <slrnioeool.2hj.nospam@ubuntu.nitsuj.net>, Justin
<nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:

> > Thanks. May I suggest one way to limit minutes and SMS is to get a
> > Google Voice number? I have had one for three years running, free, and
> > it has worked very well. Free SMS, free incoming and outgoing control,
> > voicemail transcriptions, etc......

>
> Assuming you have a smart phone...


nope. it works with any phone capable of texting, i.e., just about
anything.

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In article <8uo8auF2vuU1@mid.individual.net>, Krazee Brenda says...
>
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:00:43 -0700, Cameo wrote:
>
> > "Krazee Brenda" <brendaroguska@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
> >> with T-Mobile?

> >
> > No. They would have to honor existing contracts.

>
> Thanks. May I suggest one way to limit minutes and SMS is to get a
> Google Voice number? I have had one for three years running, free, and
> it has worked very well. Free SMS, free incoming and outgoing control,
> voicemail transcriptions, etc......


Google Voice's transcriptions are crap.

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:39 PM
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Krazee Brenda wrote on [Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:08:26 -0500]:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:00:43 -0700, Cameo wrote:
>
>> "Krazee Brenda" <brendaroguska@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
>>> with T-Mobile?

>>
>> No. They would have to honor existing contracts.

>
> Thanks. May I suggest one way to limit minutes and SMS is to get a
> Google Voice number? I have had one for three years running, free, and
> it has worked very well. Free SMS, free incoming and outgoing control,
> voicemail transcriptions, etc......


Assuming you have a smart phone...

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:39 PM
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Todd Allcock wrote on [Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:49:22 -0600]:
> At 20 Mar 2011 13:25:59 -0700 Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Newsgroups expanded to include ATT, Sprint and Verizon. This is big

> news
>> for everyone.

>
>
>
>
> I just thought of a possible consequence of an AT&T (neé Cingular)
> acquisition of T-Mo that's too horrible to contemplate...
>
> ...John Navas might start posting his Cingular FAQs in alt.cellular.t-
> mobile as well! :-0


I thought he fell off the edge of the earth

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:56 PM
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Krazee Brenda wrote on [Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:49:14 -0500]:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:21:05 -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>> In article <8uo8auF2vuU1@mid.individual.net>, Krazee Brenda says...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:00:43 -0700, Cameo wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Krazee Brenda" <brendaroguska@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Would you expect AT/T to drop phones which had long term contracts
>>>>> with T-Mobile?
>>>>
>>>> No. They would have to honor existing contracts.
>>>
>>> Thanks. May I suggest one way to limit minutes and SMS is to get a
>>> Google Voice number? I have had one for three years running, free, and
>>> it has worked very well. Free SMS, free incoming and outgoing control,
>>> voicemail transcriptions, etc......

>>
>> Google Voice's transcriptions are crap.

>
> Are yours? Mine are not then most of the people that call me don't
> drool and are sober.


Here is a recent transcript I received

Hi Justin, This is Francis, Leo see support one of the questions that the
I P M support. It's asking, Yes, whether Wendy is a pool buy a new the patch.
Whether we are ready to test it. And I will updates on the pickets and to
remind you again and to see if that's a possibility. I know that it's
difficult because The problem is not reproduce consistently. So. I'd like to
get your input on that. Yes, and then I'll get back to the To idea.
Thank you very much, goodbye.


and another

Hi Justin, This is francis CA, I would like to we but just a friendly reminder
that the engineering engineers. Actually they were requesting for a for
blows, mode, If you're not, they was to telling me that this taxation of
Robel soft would help them. It is 19 the debug mode mould lock. So, you
can get to propose molding off of a problem at the agent. Phone us that
would be great. Thank you very much. Goodbye.

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