"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> I have an app installed on my Android phone called EasySMS. It
> actually
> runs a tiny web server on your phone, which you log into from your PC.
>
> I like it because I'd rather use my laptop keyboard to send texts.
Same reason here, too, plus saving on international SMS that could be
pretty expensive from phone to phone. I was looking for something like
what Skype does, but for free. Skype charges for it, though it is still
cheaper internationally than ph-2-ph. I figure what Skype does with the
SMS messages is similar to what it does when placing a call to a phone:
it routes the message on Internet to the target country where it inserts
it somehow to the local phone system.
> I'm sure there are other apps out there...
I've seen some web sites advertising for such systems but they mostly
aim at companies who might want to send text messages to multiple
recipients. I also could not find a good explanation how that software
actually works and what costs are involved.
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.27c774f262539aae9897f5@news.justthe.net.. .
> In article <ijkfm1$29q$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> cameo@invalid.invalid says...
>>
>> Is there a PC app to do that?
>
> It depends.
>
> I have an app installed on my Android phone called EasySMS. It actually
> runs a tiny web server on your phone, which you log into from your PC.
>
> I like it because I'd rather use my laptop keyboard to send texts.
>
> I'm sure there are other apps out there...
>
> --
> Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
> Apple Valley, CA
> sjsobol@JustThe.net
I use a program called ZipWhiz when I'm logged in to Sprint.com. Pretty
slick. Maybe you can search and see if Tmo has it too.
"Travis James" <travis.james@gmail.com> wrote:
> Get a free Google Voice account. I think you can do it with Yahoo IM
> too, but I know Google Voice works. I do it all the time.
I thought Google Voice would work the other way around: could get
SMS as an email on the receiver's end. Maybe I need to check that again.
In message <ijla98$69p$1@news.eternal-september.org> "Cameo"
<cameo@invalid.invalid> was claimed to have wrote:
>"Travis James" <travis.james@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Get a free Google Voice account. I think you can do it with Yahoo IM
>> too, but I know Google Voice works. I do it all the time.
>
> I thought Google Voice would work the other way around: could get
>SMS as an email on the receiver's end. Maybe I need to check that again.
Google Voice allows true two-way SMS communication, and it uses 10 digit
phone numbers, not relying on email gateways.
So it will work nicely here.
Google Talk (with the Google Mail Labs option), Yahoo and AIM are all
capable of PC-to-SMS, but they use a series of shortcodes (no additional
charges) that sometimes change, so it's not as reliable. Specifically,
if you sometimes go days without talking then the cell phone user can't
always initiate a conversation easily.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:49:18 -0500, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Is there a PC app to do that?
Any mail client will do that, if you have an SMTP server to accept your outbound mail.
It's up to you, though, to know which cellular service your intended texting recipient
is on, with what cellular number, and exactly how to combine the number and service-name
into an appropriate email address.
For example, a number 212-333-4444 (hypothetical) on T-Mobile would call for using as email
address 2123334444@tmomail.net; and only the first 160 characters (at most) taken from the
subject-line and the body-text will make it through as your Text-message (in SMS form).
Other carriers, other email address forms.
HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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tlvp wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:49:18 -0500, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Is there a PC app to do that?
>
> Any mail client will do that, if you have an SMTP server to accept your
> outbound mail.
> It's up to you, though, to know which cellular service your intended
> texting recipient
> is on, with what cellular number, and exactly how to combine the number
> and service-name
> into an appropriate email address.
>
> For example, a number 212-333-4444 (hypothetical) on T-Mobile would call
> for using as email
> address 2123334444@tmomail.net; and only the first 160 characters (at
> most) taken from the
> subject-line and the body-text will make it through as your Text-message
> (in SMS form).
>
> Other carriers, other email address forms.
>
> HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
"tlvp" <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Any mail client will do that, if you have an SMTP server to accept
> your outbound mail.
> It's up to you, though, to know which cellular service your intended
> texting recipient
> is on, with what cellular number, and exactly how to combine the
> number and service-name
> into an appropriate email address.
>
> For example, a number 212-333-4444 (hypothetical) on T-Mobile would
> call for using as email
> address 2123334444@tmomail.net; and only the first 160 characters (at
> most) taken from the
> subject-line and the body-text will make it through as your
> Text-message (in SMS form).
>
> Other carriers, other email address forms.
I remember that at one time this was how you could do it and even could
assign some alphabetic handle to the phone number user name, such as
YoursTruely and then send an SMS to YoursTruely@tmomail.net. However,
now the T-Mo FAQ says this on the subject:
------------------
How do I send a text message from a computer?
To send a text message from a computer, perform the following steps:
1. Log in to your My T-Mobile account.
2. Under Connect and Share click to select Send a text message.
3. Fill in the To and From fields and write your message in the Message
box.
NOTE: The message you write can be up to 129 characters in length.
4. Click to select the Send button to send the message.
NOTE: Please be aware that you can only send text messages to T-Mobile
customers using this service.
-----------------
Why do I need to log into My.T-Mobile.com to send a text message from
your site?
T-Mobile moved the ability to send text messages from T-Mobile.com to
My.T-Mobile.com to ensure that T-Mobile customers are using this feature
and not outside Marketing or 3rd Party companies using it to spam our
customers.
------------------
But I just tested the old method by sending an SMS to my phone on the
tmomail.net and it still works. Using the alternate handle for the phone
number, however, doesn't work.
In any case, this works fine for US 10-digit numbers but I am not sure
how this would work for overseas cell phone numbers.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:55:38 -0500, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "tlvp" <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Any mail client will do that, if you have an SMTP server to accept
>> your outbound mail.
>> It's up to you, though, to know which cellular service your intended
>> texting recipient
>> is on, with what cellular number, and exactly how to combine the
>> number and service-name
>> into an appropriate email address.
>>
>> For example, a number 212-333-4444 (hypothetical) on T-Mobile would
>> call for using as email
>> address 2123334444@tmomail.net; and only the first 160 characters (at
>> most) taken from the
>> subject-line and the body-text will make it through as your
>> Text-message (in SMS form).
>>
>> Other carriers, other email address forms.
>
> I remember that at one time this was how you could do it and even could
> assign some alphabetic handle to the phone number user name, such as
> YoursTruely and then send an SMS to YoursTruely@tmomail.net.
And that is *still* the case today.
> ... However,
> now the T-Mo FAQ says this on the subject:
> ------------------
> How do I send a text message from a computer?
>
> To send a text message from a computer, perform the following steps:
> 1. Log in to your My T-Mobile account.
> 2. Under Connect and Share click to select Send a text message.
> 3. Fill in the To and From fields and write your message in the Message
> box.
> NOTE: The message you write can be up to 129 characters in length.
> 4. Click to select the Send button to send the message.
> NOTE: Please be aware that you can only send text messages to T-Mobile
> customers using this service.
> -----------------
>
> Why do I need to log into My.T-Mobile.com to send a text message from
> your site?
>
> T-Mobile moved the ability to send text messages from T-Mobile.com to
> My.T-Mobile.com to ensure that T-Mobile customers are using this feature
> and not outside Marketing or 3rd Party companies using it to spam our
> customers.
> ------------------
>
> But I just tested the old method by sending an SMS to my phone on the
> tmomail.net and it still works. Using the alternate handle for the phone
> number, however, doesn't work.
> In any case, this works fine for US 10-digit numbers but I am not sure
> how this would work for overseas cell phone numbers.
Three sorts of remarks.
First: yes, the old [10digits]@tmomail.net method still works.
So does the old HANDLE@tmomail.net, *provided* that no filter
is in place to block reception of such messages.
Second, the method the T-Mo FAQ you quoted outlines works for anyone
who can access the password-protected part of My.T-mobile.com. Such
a person can then send SMS to another T-Mobile customer *without*
running up a message counter or a per-SMS fee, as would happen sending
SMS from a handset, and *without* necessarily having any sort of SMTP
service available (no need to be able to send emails in general).
Third, for sending SMS to customers of *other* cellular providers,
the My.T-Mobile.com service wil *not* do that. Your handset can do it,
sending SMS directly to the 10-digit US number, or, at extra charge,
to the fully internationalized +CCPPPNNNNMMMM +-prefixed, CC-country-
code-prefixed, PPP-LocalAreaPrefixed NNNNMMMM-local number.
Or, if you know the appropriate email domain, an email address
of the form already described, [CellularNumber]@EmailDomain, should
get a short email to the handset in question as an SMS.
HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Three sorts of remarks.
>
> First: yes, the old [10digits]@tmomail.net method still works.
> So does the old HANDLE@tmomail.net, *provided* that no filter
> is in place to block reception of such messages.
Well, I did assign a handle to my cell number at one time and I assumed
T-Mo still had it. Apparently not, because a test SMS with the handle
did not make it through.
> Second, the method the T-Mo FAQ you quoted outlines works for anyone
> who can access the password-protected part of My.T-mobile.com. Such
> a person can then send SMS to another T-Mobile customer *without*
> running up a message counter or a per-SMS fee, as would happen sending
> SMS from a handset, and *without* necessarily having any sort of SMTP
> service available (no need to be able to send emails in general).
I didn't see anything abaout the charges in that FAQ. Did I miss it?
> Third, for sending SMS to customers of *other* cellular providers,
> the My.T-Mobile.com service wil *not* do that. Your handset can do it,
> sending SMS directly to the 10-digit US number, or, at extra charge,
> to the fully internationalized +CCPPPNNNNMMMM +-prefixed, CC-country-
> code-prefixed, PPP-LocalAreaPrefixed NNNNMMMM-local number.
>
> Or, if you know the appropriate email domain, an email address
> of the form already described, [CellularNumber]@EmailDomain, should
> get a short email to the handset in question as an SMS.
Whose email domain? My carrier's or the recipient's? My purpose with the
PC-to-cell-phone SMS is to save on the big expense of international SMS.
I wonder if going through my carrier's email domain saves me anything at
all. One could end up the same way as those T-Mo callers who initiate a
voice calls through a WiFi connection; they are charged the same air
time as if they were using the cell network.
In article <ijq6s9$uqf$1@news.eternal-september.org>, cameo@invalid.invalid says...
> But I just tested the old method by sending an SMS to my phone on the
> tmomail.net and it still works. Using the alternate handle for the phone
> number, however, doesn't work.
Worked for me on my T-Mo phone. Mail sent to my handle was delivered as
a multimedia (MMS) message. Mail sent to my phone number was sent as a
text message.
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Apple Valley, CA sjsobol@JustThe.net
In message <ijqi2c$qsg$1@news.eternal-september.org> "Cameo"
<cameo@invalid.invalid> was claimed to have wrote:
>> Or, if you know the appropriate email domain, an email address
>> of the form already described, [CellularNumber]@EmailDomain, should
>> get a short email to the handset in question as an SMS.
>
>Whose email domain? My carrier's or the recipient's? My purpose with the
>PC-to-cell-phone SMS is to save on the big expense of international SMS.
>I wonder if going through my carrier's email domain saves me anything at
>all. One could end up the same way as those T-Mo callers who initiate a
>voice calls through a WiFi connection; they are charged the same air
>time as if they were using the cell network.
The recipient's carrier's domain.
In general using email gateways will completely avoid international SMS
charges, as long as their carrier doesn't charge for use of the email
gateway. There simply isn't any "international" once you're talking
about email, the local email <--> SMS gateway all happens within the
remote carrier's network.
"DevilsPGD" <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:
> The recipient's carrier's domain.
>
> In general using email gateways will completely avoid international
> SMS
> charges, as long as their carrier doesn't charge for use of the email
> gateway. There simply isn't any "international" once you're talking
> about email, the local email <--> SMS gateway all happens within the
> remote carrier's network.
OK, that makes sense, except using the fully internationalized
+CCPPPNNNNMMMM +-prefixed, CC-country-code-prefixed,
PPP-LocalAreaPrefixed NNNNMMMM-local number with the receipient
carrier's domain. It seems that all that international prefix would be
redundant with the recipient's domain, no?
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:55:41 -0500, Cameo <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "DevilsPGD" <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>> The recipient's carrier's domain.
>>
>> In general using email gateways will completely avoid international
>> SMS
>> charges, as long as their carrier doesn't charge for use of the email
>> gateway. There simply isn't any "international" once you're talking
>> about email, the local email <--> SMS gateway all happens within the
>> remote carrier's network.
>
> OK, that makes sense, except using the fully internationalized
> +CCPPPNNNNMMMM +-prefixed, CC-country-code-prefixed,
> PPP-LocalAreaPrefixed NNNNMMMM-local number with the receipient
> carrier's domain. It seems that all that international prefix would be
> redundant with the recipient's domain, no?
Right. You're trying to treat the answer to one question
as the answer to another.
"using the fully internationalized
+CCPPPNNNNMMMM +-prefixed, CC-country-code-prefixed,
PPP-LocalAreaPrefixed NNNNMMMM-local number"
is the way to send an SMS _from_your_handset_
to the remote handset.
To use an appropriate version of the telephone number
and the recipient's cellular provider's SMS-gateway domain,
you must first learn, from that recipient or from that
cellular provider, what the appropriate version of the
telephone number is. [Often, it's whatever a user in the
country in question would dial from a handset to reach
the number.]
HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 03:09:07 -0500, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@justthe.net> wrote:
> In article <ijq6s9$uqf$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> cameo@invalid.invalid says...
>
>
>> But I just tested the old method by sending an SMS to my phone on the
>> tmomail.net and it still works. Using the alternate handle for the phone
>> number, however, doesn't work.
>
> Worked for me on my T-Mo phone. Mail sent to my handle was delivered as
> a multimedia (MMS) message. Mail sent to my phone number was sent as a
> text message.
I have yet to work out any hard and fast rules for when e-mail arriving
for me at tmomail.net arrives as SMS or as MMS. Certainly "handle" vs. "number"
is *not* the criterion. Perhaps HTML mail vs. plain-text mail is, but I've
been unable to confirm that reliably. Certainly mail with a small attached
image arrives as MMS ... but mail with a larger attached image is just
unceremoniously dropped into the BBBits (Big BitBucket in the sky).
As for having mail sent to the handle arrive at all or not, there's a control
on the EmailFilters.aspx page dedicated to that decision. Of course, if *you*
can no more access *your* EmailFilters.aspx page than I can access mine, it's
small consolation to know that you can adjust that filter there ... but you
*can*, in principle (if you can get there :-) ).
HTH. And cheers, -- tlvp
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