Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
On 11/19/2011 9:42 PM, W wrote:
> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>
They all use a lot of battery. You could put in an app killer app and a
start up monitor app. They help a little.
Buttons are something I hate. No matter where I put my phones the
buttons are always turning themselves on. That's why I got an HTC
Incredible. if the buttons get pushed the only thing effected is volume.
If you want buttons, Motorola has them.
Do your friend a favor and put "call confirm" a free app on the phone.
Lots of people, including myself, make inadvertent phone calls until
they get used to the scroll and touch screen. Call confirm asks you if
you really want to make the call.
In article <Xns9FA2DB46CE700xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>, XS11E says...
>
> "W" <persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>
> > Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> Simple answer = None.
>
> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>
> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
I have a spare battery and a little charger that I got from
Overstock.com that allows you to charge the phone and a spare battery at
the same time. But I also use an app called JuiceDefender that tends to
significantly extend the battery's usable charge, by dynamically turning
services on and off when needed. I'm using the free version. There are
also two paid versions of the app that allow more control over what gets
switched off, and where, and when.
At 19 Nov 2011 22:41:01 -0800 Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <Xns9FA2DB46CE700xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>, XS11E says...
> >
> > "W" <persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
> >
> > Simple answer = None.
> >
> > If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
> > Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
> >
> > You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>
> I have a spare battery and a little charger that I got from
> Overstock.com that allows you to charge the phone and a spare battery
at
> the same time. But I also use an app called JuiceDefender that tends to
> significantly extend the battery's usable charge, by dynamically
turning
> services on and off when needed. I'm using the free version. There are
> also two paid versions of the app that allow more control over what
gets
> switched off, and where, and when.
>
> FWIW my phone is a T-Mobile HTC MyTouch 4G.
>
To recycle an old joke:
Q: Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, an Android phone with a nice long-
lasting battery, and an Android phone with lousy battery life are having
a drink together at a bar. Which one gets stuck with the check?
A: The Android phone with the lousy battery life. The other three don't
exist...
On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>
Battery life depends on:
a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
b. The phone that uses the battery. Battery life, or lack thereof, is a
characteristic of the phone, the battery, and how much you use it.
c. Your usage of the phone. If you seldom use the phone and keep your
calls brief, you will get the most possible from one charged battery!
If you talk on your phone sixteen hours a day you should probably carry
a spare battery or three!! If you think talking sixteen hours a day is
a figment of someones imagination, you never met my late step-mother!!!
My phone's battery is supposed to last for four days of idling. I think
that may be slightly optimistic! ;-) I keep a charged spare battery for
emergencies.
There are battery powered chargers available for some batteries. Check
with your VZW Store to see what's available.
On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>
>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> Simple answer = None.
>
> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>
> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>
>
It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of talk
time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable" is
likely to vary from person to person.
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
> > "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
> >
> > Simple answer = None.
> >
> > If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life
on
> > Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
> >
> > You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
> >
> >
> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of
talk
> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable"
is
> likely to vary from person to person.
Sweet Lord, Richard, we're discussing smartphones. The impact of
voice calls on smartphone battery life is inconsequential next to the
display, data connection, and background progress ( fetching email,
etc.)
Smartphones these days pretty much come in two flavors: those that
can make it through a day without needing a recharge, and those that
can't.
On 11/20/2011 11:39 AM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> > "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>> >
>> > Simple answer = None.
>> >
>> > If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life
> on
>> > Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>> >
>> > You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>> >
>> >
>
>
>> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of
> talk
>> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable"
> is
>> likely to vary from person to person.
>
> Sweet Lord, Richard, we're discussing smartphones. The impact of voice
> calls on smartphone battery life is inconsequential next to the display,
> data connection, and background progress ( fetching email, etc.)
>
> Smartphones these days pretty much come in two flavors: those that can
> make it through a day without needing a recharge, and those that can't.
My phone is "smart" but it manages to idle for two or three days if it's
just waiting for someone to call.
Now if you use your phone to "surf the web" most of the day, you will
probably need some serious battery capacity and/or frequent recharges.
I use my computer to surf the web and as long as Atlantic City Electric
manages to keep the power flowing I'm in great shape. That 22" screen
is great! The 2-1/4" screen on my phone OTOH has very limited
usefulness for "browsing"!
"W" <persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote in message
news:t4qdnQdDRci56lXTnZ2dnUVZ5h6dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>
> --
> W
>
>
Have to ask. Buttons? PhoneCalls & Messaging only? Why bother with an
Android phone then?
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:almarsoft.8046912911326013838@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> > "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>> >
>> > Simple answer = None.
>> >
>> > If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life
> on
>> > Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>> >
>> > You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>> >
>> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of
> talk
>> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable"
> is
>> likely to vary from person to person.
>
> Sweet Lord, Richard, we're discussing smartphones. The impact of voice
> calls on smartphone battery life is inconsequential next to the display,
> data connection, and background progress ( fetching email, etc.)
>
> Smartphones these days pretty much come in two flavors: those that can
> make it through a day without needing a recharge, and those that can't.
I was going to say the same thing, but in a nicer way.
My understanding is that the cellular radio uses less juice than, for
example, the screen (a primary consumer of power) and the data radio(s).
"Talk-time" might be a good indicator of how long the battery would last IF
YOU WERE DOING NOTHING ELSE WITH THE PHONE, but that's not how people use
smartphones these days. Most talk-time ratings are in the hundreds of
minutes (hours and hours), and that would last most people through an entire
day. Browse/email/Internet times are far less, and often chew up the
battery in short order.
Here's an example off the Apple website for the iPhone 4S. These numbers
don't reflect reality, given the current Batterygate problem, but it gives
you a relative sense of what consumes battery life:
* Talk time: Up to 8 hours on 3G, up to 14 hours on 2G (GSM)
* Standby time: Up to 200 hours
* Internet use: Up to 6 hours on 3G, up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
So, that particular phone lasts more than twice as long just talking using
the GSM voice radio than it does surfing using the 3G data radio (and I
wonder if the 6 hours even considers screen and processor use. Doubtful.
So, talk-time is probably more like 4X real-world browse time...)
Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:00:44 -0500]:
> On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>
>
>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>>
>
> Battery life depends on:
> a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
Wrong again.
Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500]:
> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>
>> Simple answer = None.
>>
>> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
>> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>>
>> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>>
>>
>
> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of talk
> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable" is
> likely to vary from person to person.
Since you only mention talk and standby time, you have no idea how
and android phone uses a battery.
Why do you even brother responding to threads where you have no experience
or clue?
In article <t4qdnQdDRci56lXTnZ2dnUVZ5h6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"W" <persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>
> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
Not to veer off the subject, but why would someone who is "not technical
at all" want or need an Android phone?
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>
>> Simple answer = None.
>>
>> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
>> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>>
>> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>>
>>
>
> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of talk
> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable" is
> likely to vary from person to person.
Many folks (such as me!) recharge their phone every night. I consider
7AM to 10PM acceptable battery life.
My VZW Thunderbolt will do that but ONLY because it's rooted, running a
ROM known for good battery life and I use several tricks to enhance
battery life. That's barely acceptable, unrooted and with the stock
ROM it cannot get past 5 or 6 PM w/o being charged, that's
unacceptable.
My VZW BlackBerry, with almost the exact same usage, will go from
Friday morning to Sunday morning w/o a recharge. That's acceptable.
Again, if battery life is important, go with BB, if it's not, go with
Android and plan on a spare battery and a charging dock and, if
travelling use a car charger while on the road and keep a fully charged
battery in your pocket.
Having said that, I still prefer Android. Why? Because my eyes NEED
the larger battery eating screen.
On 11/20/2011 12:56 PM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500]:
>> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>>> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>
>>> Simple answer = None.
>>>
>>> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
>>> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>>>
>>> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of talk
>> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable" is
>> likely to vary from person to person.
>
> Since you only mention talk and standby time, you have no idea how
> and android phone uses a battery.
>
> Why do you even brother responding to threads where you have no experience
> or clue?
On 11/20/2011 11:56 AM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:00:44 -0500]:
>> On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>
>>
>>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>>>
>>
>> Battery life depends on:
>> a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>
> Wrong again.
>
> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
>
The extended life battery for my phone is too fat so it has to come with
a special cover. I have a car charger and an AC charger. I manage pretty
well.
Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:54:30 -0500]:
> On 11/20/2011 12:56 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:35 -0500]:
>>> On 11/19/2011 11:33 PM, XS11E wrote:
>>>> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>>
>>>> Simple answer = None.
>>>>
>>>> If you want battery you'll need to get a Blackberry, battery life on
>>>> Android phones ranges between totally unacceptable and even worse.
>>>>
>>>> You can survive with a spare battery and a charging dock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It might be useful to specify the number of hours or minutes of talk
>>> time, and the same for idle time. What is "totally unacceptable" is
>>> likely to vary from person to person.
>>
>> Since you only mention talk and standby time, you have no idea how
>> and android phone uses a battery.
>>
>> Why do you even brother responding to threads where you have no experience
>> or clue?
>
> Learn to endure it or go elsewhere!
You do everyone including yourself a disservice, providing useless information
that anyone who doesn't know how useless your responses are could take
at face value.
On 11/20/2011 12:56 PM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:00:44 -0500]:
>> On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>
>>
>>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>>>
>>
>> Battery life depends on:
>> a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>
> Wrong again.
>
> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
>
SOME phones have such an option. AFAIK, my RAZR V3m does not. I
haven't inquired about it because I have no problem with recharging it
each night. It's actually specified for four days run-time idling. I'm
not certain that I believe it.
My first phone, ca. 1998, came with two batteries. One was low capacity
and gave me a slim phone. The other turned my phone into a small grey
brick! This was ten-twelve years ago. I don't recall any of my other
phones being equipped with a second battery.
I bought a second battery for my RAZR V3m and keep it charged, mostly in
case I forget to charge my first one! ;-)
On 11/20/2011 1:02 PM, M-M wrote:
> In article<t4qdnQdDRci56lXTnZ2dnUVZ5h6dnZ2d@giganews. com>,
> "W"<persistentone@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>
>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>
>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>
>
> Not to veer off the subject, but why would someone who is "not technical
> at all" want or need an Android phone?
>
I thought that the Android was supposed to be "intuitively obvious" to
operate, or something like that. I've seen one in the VZW store but
have never used one. I've never wanted one; my poor old RAZR-V3m meets
my very modest needs.
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:33:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/20/2011 11:39 AM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> > Smartphones these days pretty much come in two flavors: those
that can
> > make it through a day without needing a recharge, and those that
can't.
> My phone is "smart" but it manages to idle for two or three days if
it's
> just waiting for someone to call.
By anyone's definition but yours, your Motorola isn't a smartphone.
It doesn't have the same level of services running continuously in
the background like a smartphone or computer does. It's like
comparing an old DOS PC to a modern Windows machine.
> Now if you use your phone to "surf the web" most of the day, you
will
> probably need some serious battery capacity and/or frequent
recharges.
It's not even the web surfing, it's the continual connectivity to
multiple email servers, polling for social networking updates,
over-the-air data backups, and the screen 4x as large as your
phone's, all with a battery with maybe only twice the capacity your
phone has.
> I use my computer to surf the web and as long as Atlantic City
Electric
> manages to keep the power flowing I'm in great shape. That 22"
screen
> is great! The 2-1/4" screen on my phone OTOH has very limited
> usefulness for "browsing"!
Again, if you're equating "browsing" with "smart" you've got a huge
misunderstanding about what smartphone is...
Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:27:19 -0500]:
> On 11/20/2011 12:56 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:00:44 -0500]:
>>> On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
>>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>>>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>>>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Battery life depends on:
>>> a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>>
>> Wrong again.
>>
>> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
>>
>
> SOME phones have such an option. AFAIK, my RAZR V3m does not. I
On 11/20/2011 3:07 PM, Justin wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:27:19 -0500]:
>> On 11/20/2011 12:56 PM, Justin wrote:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:00:44 -0500]:
>>>> On 11/19/2011 10:42 PM, W wrote:
>>>>> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
>>>>> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
>>>>> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Battery life depends on:
>>>> a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>>>
>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
>>>
>>
>> SOME phones have such an option. AFAIK, my RAZR V3m does not. I
>
> Razr v3m extended battery:
> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Exten.../dp/B000OSBC96
>
> comes with an expanded back cover, as well.
>
> You would pick the one phone I owned that I actually had the extended
> battery for...
>
I never needed it! If I had needed it, I would have asked years ago. I
doubt if I've made or received three calls a year in the last few years.
Before I retired I needed to be available 24x7 and might actually have
to respond to a "system down" event. I'm retired now but
I'll still respond if somebody pays me! ;-) Family members get a
discount! ;-)
> Which Android phones offer the longest battery life?
Older ones via eBay/Craig's List.
> I am targeting this phone for someone who is not technical at all. So
> having hardware buttons on the phone would be desirable as would any
> simplifed UI that only exposes phone calls and SMS messaging.
If that's all you want "exposed", why get a smartphone at all? Get a
plain dumbphone, or at the most a "messaging" phone.
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Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Todd Allcock said:
> > My phone is "smart" but it manages to idle for two or three days if
> it's
> > just waiting for someone to call.
>
> By anyone's definition but yours, your Motorola isn't a smartphone.
> It doesn't have the same level of services running continuously in
> the background like a smartphone or computer does. It's like
> comparing an old DOS PC to a modern Windows machine.
He gave no indication one way or the other as to the smartness of his
phone, only of his usage habits. My DroidX, when "sitting idle" can
last two, maybe three, days before the battery goes flat if all I'm
doing with it is an occasional phone call. IE, don't pull it out for
anything but that, and only talk less than an hour per day. That's
with the phone doing it's normal background data fetching and syncing.
OTOH, if I use it to read Twitter, Facebook, etc, several times a day
it's usually down to ~50% by the time I'm heading for bed. Throw in
some games, and now we're talking 30% or less by the end of the day.
--
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:25:12 +0000]:
> Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Todd Allcock said:
>
> phone, only of his usage habits. My DroidX, when "sitting idle" can
> last two, maybe three, days before the battery goes flat if all I'm
> doing with it is an occasional phone call. IE, don't pull it out for
> anything but that, and only talk less than an hour per day. That's
> with the phone doing it's normal background data fetching and syncing.
> OTOH, if I use it to read Twitter, Facebook, etc, several times a day
> it's usually down to ~50% by the time I'm heading for bed. Throw in
> some games, and now we're talking 30% or less by the end of the day.
I'd love to know how you do that. I can go to bed with my droid x at 100%
and wake up and it's down to 40%, only 7 hours later. zero usage except
for as an alarm.
Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Janet Wilder said:
> They all use a lot of battery. You could put in an app killer app and a
Do NOT put an app killer on a modern Android. They are not needed and
may cause more harm than good. Android 2.2 and newer have sufficient
memory management built in that app killers are no longer necessary.
Not even for battery life.
The battery sucking apps and services will autostart or refuse to be
killed anyway.
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I am assured that no hero will attack my Legions of Terror when they
are holding a parade in his honor.
> > Battery life depends on:
> > a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>
> Wrong again.
>
> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
Every phone YOU've had, maybe, but not EVERY phone. Go ahead... change
the battery in an iPhone. Or the new Moto Droid RAZR...
Extended batteries require the use of an "extended" cover as well. Not
everyone likes that.
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On 11/20/2011 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Janet Wilder said:
>
>> They all use a lot of battery. You could put in an app killer app and a
>
> Do NOT put an app killer on a modern Android. They are not needed and
> may cause more harm than good. Android 2.2 and newer have sufficient
> memory management built in that app killers are no longer necessary.
> Not even for battery life.
>
> The battery sucking apps and services will autostart or refuse to be
> killed anyway.
>
Hmmmm! I don't think I would want a phone that does what IT wants to do
rather that what *I* want it to do.
Jeffrey Kaplan wrote on [Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:32:51 +0000]:
> Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Justin said:
>
>> > Battery life depends on:
>> > a. the battery (usually no choice here!)
>>
>> Wrong again.
>>
>> Every phone I have ever had has had the option of an extended life battery
>
> Every phone YOU've had, maybe, but not EVERY phone. Go ahead... change
> the battery in an iPhone. Or the new Moto Droid RAZR...
You don't need to change the battery in an iPhone, there are hundreds of
extra life cases that provide extra battery
> Extended batteries require the use of an "extended" cover as well. Not
> everyone likes that.
That is a choice, to which the claim was there was no choice.
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